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I am a newbie to the Porsche world but I am very much looking forward to being"in"...I am thinking of buying my first Porsche as my only car and not having a "backup"...with that, I am considering a C4 (2002-Cab)-will the C4 take me throughout the Chicago crazy weather shifting (snow/ice/rain/shine)?
Is it that much better than the C2 (Cab) that I should spend the extra five grand or so? Two things are pretty much set in stone...I want a Cab and I want a 2002...the question is weather I get a higher mileage C4 or a reasonable C2? My wife would be all over me if I had to borrow her minivan because I couldn't drive "my new baby" in certain conditions...Thanks for listening.
It's worth it if you want AWD, not worth it if you only want RWD.
I drive my C2 all winter in Chicago (with snow tires) and it handles the weather with no problem (yes I drive it in the snow). The AWD benefits, did not out-weigh the negs for me. However, your priorities may be different.
Good luck.
weight, more understeer, slight loss in steering feel. The obvious benefits are better all weather traction and slightly safer handling.
Nothing wrong with either choice.
Weight and fuel economy are the obvious ones. Porsche does such a great job with the AWD and the PSM that the negatives are minimal. Some of us would only consider a "4".
i am facing the same question. i had a C4S before...want one again, but have to justify it.
not "needing" AWD here in texas, i must ask...for "normal" street driving will the 2 cut it? does the 4 naturally corner better? how about oversteer? I put my current car into a wall with snap oversteer, stability didnt even help. Will I dump my 2's butt into a wall, even with PSM?
thanks
What kind of car?
I've never experienced what I would term "snap oversteer" on my Boxster or my 996. They both exhibit very predictable handling characteristics.
I have PSM on my 996 (not of my 986) and with it on it is very difficult to get the car to oversteer even in the snow. PSM grabs the inside front brake and corrects very quickly (when it is on). With the system off I have found the 996 handling to be very predictable (and catchable) even in the snow.
Have doubts? Check out this video.
http://coochas.com/porsche/Resources...eifewinter.wmv
The 996 C2 and the 996 C4 have identical interiors and exteriors. The 996 C4S has the same interior, but different exterior (wider "hips") and turbo suspension.
my thoughts exactly. If you are driving in snow...it's a no brainer. I LOVE driving in snow now....last week, I spent an extra hour going up tough hills with a smile on my face the whole time. Wifey thinks I'm nuts, but does understand it.
Good luck!!!
J
Does a 2 cut it for normal street driving? Kind of a funny question, since the C2's do pretty well on the track! There is so much understeer built into the cars now that if you have problems with oversteer, (no offense intended) you should consider a driving course.
In terms of cornering, the 911 already has a tendency to understeer and AWD will tend to make this worse, but you will have more traction. If you are just doing street driving, I'll doubt that you'll notice much difference in dry weather.
thanks. its a cts-v. lost the rear right into a wall. ack. my old C4S just gave me confidence, you know? not an uneasiness around corners. i could toss it around and it stuck. will a C2 do that?
ok, thanks. i am just SICK of the "worry" you know? i'm not a great driver, Porsches are my first love, but I'm taking my time jumping back into ownership this time, and I want to make the right choice
The C2 has better (faster) track times than the heavier C4. The C4s is in another class looks-wise, IMHO.
As for snow performance, rear engine, over rear wheel drive, with snows must be good enough for most snow situations, right?
Sure about that? Here's a video that says otherwise...I think it's results are pretty typical, depending on the track.
http://coochas.com/porsche/Resources...Gear121105.mp4
IMHO get a C4S if you want/need AWD - you can pick these up for a reasonable price nowadays.
If you do not need AWD then a C2 will do unless you want the wide hips, then a C4S or Turbo is in your future.
The C2 will probably provide less "confidence" (read understeer) than the C4S if you toss it around. (Just my opinion, remember the C4S has a lot more rear tire width than a C2).
C4 vs C2 is pretty much very dependant on how you drive. Personally, I think the 4 is much easier to drive then the lighter more loose rwd brother.
The awd can take you much deeper and much harder into corners, I know when your in a pickel and there is no track leaft to have, turn in and hammer the throttle, the front will pick up the slack and you'll be back on line and the guy in the c2 will be wondering how the fck you can take the corner so fast.
I think you're right...that would also explain how Top Gear gets a slightly better lap time in the C4 even though they claim the C2 "feels" better while doing it.
