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2003 996, loss of power under load

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YOUR RESEARCH2003 996, loss of power under load

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Install are all used parts

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I can graph the 02s later --- granted what I installed are all used parts but i took them cars that ran and drive with no problem.

2003 996, loss of power under load
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Check fuel pressure

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Check your fuel pressure with a real pressure gauge under FULL LOAD ONLY...report back..

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Leading evidence: 'Install are all used parts' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'coil.....believe it or not' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check fuel pressure' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace cats

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I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace front 02s

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I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace fuel pump mechanism

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I replaced the fuel pump mechanism with a new AEM 50-1200 pump that's E85 compatible, and when I pulled the accordion hose off the original pump I must have cracked the straight part that goes over the pump output.

2003 996, loss of power under load

coil.....believe it or not

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Also, once i had a MG that wouldn't pull well and there was no miss and it turned out to be the coil.....believe it or not

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Check fuel pressure

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Check your fuel pressure with a real pressure gauge under FULL LOAD ONLY...report back..

2003 996, loss of power under load

Combined work: Replace cats + Replace front 02s

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P1133/p code 358, 02 adaption for the other bank I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change

2003 996, loss of power under load

Install are all used parts

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I can graph the 02s later --- granted what I installed are all used parts but i took them cars that ran and drive with no problem.

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace accordion hose

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I compounded my stupidity by replacing the accordion hose with a piece of non-submersible hose "just to get by" until I got a piece of the proper submersible hose.

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace cats

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace front 02s

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace fuel pump mechanism

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I replaced the fuel pump mechanism with a new AEM 50-1200 pump that's E85 compatible, and when I pulled the accordion hose off the original pump I must have cracked the straight part that goes over the pump output.

2003 996, loss of power under load

Replace fuel pump or regulator

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You replaced the fuel pump or regulator?

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Replace pump

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i think he is leaning toward a cracked ir slipped pick up tube in the tank, a common issue after changing the pump.

2003 996, loss of power under load

Set i had

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The last time codes set I had

2003 996, loss of power under load
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coil.....believe it or not

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Also, once i had a MG that wouldn't pull well and there was no miss and it turned out to be the coil.....believe it or not

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

ok guys I am at my wits end. I do not tap out often but I am close..... 2003 911 base/manual The car has no power under load. At idle it revs up and sounds great/amazing. I go drive it and it just has not nu*s, I dont know how else to describe it It feels like it is being restriced I have: Swapped out cats and 02s I have swapped out the MAF I have swapped out the fuel pump (regulator) New coils and plugs (Not China crap) I am a fairly competent DIY'er but I am a little out of my comfort zone, looking for any help The last time codes set I had P0130/Porsche code 10, 02 Sensor circuit P0150/P code 18, 02 sensor circuit (so both front 02s circuit codes) P1126/p code 356, 02 adaption P1133/p code 358, 02 adaption for the other bank I replaced front 02s with known good and swapped cats with no change I cleared the codes, and they have not set since the last clear But the car drives the same lack of nu*s I have a Durametic so I can get data if anyone has any ideas

POST 2Original post

You replaced the fuel pump or regulator? What about the fuel filter??? Check your fuel pressure with a real pressure gauge under FULL LOAD ONLY...report back..

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

@Porschetech3 on a 996 the reg is built into the pump (so new reg) under load only, at idle its fine have NOT changed the FF Do not have a fuel pressure gauge

POST 4Original post

Wild guess since it revs in neutral. Need a differential rebuild?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

@GC996 what are you talking about?

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 18189587

Not certain i understand your question? Add: Maybe you should start with a more concrete definition of what you mean by loosing power. Do you mean that it revs just fine in neutral, but doesn't rev under load , or that it does rev under load but the power doesn't get to the wheels?

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Quotes source post: 18189484

Do you know where to get one? I have a lot of other suggestions but they are much more difficult than testing fuel pressure under load...

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

@GC996 it is manual, so when it is in neutral the engine does no bog, sounds perfect, under load (in gear and on the gas) the car feel like it has no power..... @Porschetech3 I can probably get it pulled today. BTW, the .2s do not have an inline filter (filter is in the pump and Porsche says it is lifetime)

POST 9Original post

U should be able to graph the o2 sensors. Im curios on what the signal wire voltage is. Does it hang at .46, the no signal default, or if its jumping around ftom 0-1v. there have be several posts on bad maf sensors lately, even bad out of the box. Just my shot in the dark but listen to p-tech because he has seen it all. i think he is leaning toward a cracked ir slipped pick up tube in the tank, a common issue after changing the pump.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

@De Jeeper I can graph the 02s later --- granted what I installed are all used parts but i took them cars that ran and drive with no problem. The fuel pump is tricky so maybe I kinked a hose. I do have another one (fuel pump) I can try but I want to ck fuel pressure 1st @Porschetech3 what are the fuel pressure specs?

POST 11Original post

does it bog or miss or what? will it eventually pull to max rpm? A CEL should come on

POST 12Original post

You would think low fuel pressure would cause ECU faults and generate codes. Slipping clutch? Does it rev high and nothing happens or does it feel like it's going to stall?

POST 13Original post

Revs just fine in neutral... A better definition behind what down on power means, when and how would help. Does it rev when in gear but feels restricted. This could also mean clutch or differential. Tough to call without having more info, but right now it's just a bunch of guesses at best.

POST 14Original post

His description seems pretty good to me. Its not making power when loaded. Its like driving a car at 11k feet or when the cat is clogged. Maybe we can see the problem in the air/fuel ratios? It may not throw a code if its not out of range long enough. Or if it is a fuel delivery issue it wont trip a code.

POST 15Original post

My car did exactly this when there was a split in a fuel line in the tank. Idled fine, would rev in neutral all you wanted. Fuel pressure at idle was fine, about 3Bar. On the road it could barely get to 35 MPH before it ran out of power. No codes were thrown. Eventually the line broke completely and it wouldn't even start.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 18190835

PRF, very interesting. Another part to add to the refresh list. How did the problem develop on your turbo? All of a sudden or was it a slow progression?

POST 17Original post

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yeah I had a similar thing happen to a bmw. Also, once i had a MG that wouldn't pull well and there was no miss and it turned out to be the coil.....believe it or not

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 18190904

I brought it on myself. I replaced the fuel pump mechanism with a new AEM 50-1200 pump that's E85 compatible, and when I pulled the accordion hose off the original pump I must have cracked the straight part that goes over the pump output. Over the next couple days the crack turned into a split and the split kept getting bigger. I compounded my stupidity by replacing the accordion hose with a piece of non-submersible hose "just to get by" until I got a piece of the proper submersible hose. Don't do this. One day later (!) the non-submersible hose turned into jelly and popped of the new pump's output fitting while I was accelerating out of Turn 2 at Lime Rock. I coasted into the grass and got towed back to the pits, embarrassing. Then I got to fix it again.

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 18194610

Congrats! Good news.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 18194610

Great! But explain how you came to that conclusion.

POST 22Original post

The ECM is the same as the DME, right? The computer for the car? Did you send it to ECU doctors in Florida for diagnosis and/or repair?

POST 23Original post

Quotes source post: 18194823

I was wondering the same thing. What is an ECM? Same as the DME/ECU? What did you do to fix it?

POST 24Original post

Quotes source posts: 18194823, 18194835

IMHO, many names for the same thing. ECU engine control unit - ECM engine control module Toe mate Toe - Toe Mot Toe Technically, ours is the BOSCH Motronic DME

POST 25Original post

Quotes source post: 18194698

+1 I'd also appreciate a quick writeup of how you diagnosed this.

POST 26Original post

Quotes source posts: 18194610, 18194698, 18194823, 18194835, 18195363

Right, in the words of Andy Griffin "splain yourself" !! Inquiring minds want to know. Especially the one who has been fixing everything on m96 for over 20 years and hasn't seen this particular scenario with a DME/codes

POST 27Original post

In my world ECM stands for Electronic Counter Measures. What I did in the Air Force.

POST 28Original post

Looks like the car may be up for sale on BAT.

POST 30Original post

Quotes source posts: 18196358, 18196304

What. This. EDIT: Found it. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...11-carrera-76/ Looks like the poster sells 996's on BaT regularly. https://bringatrailer.com/member/griehl/

POST 31Original post

Hey GRIEHL. Don't have a problem with trying to help out a 996 owner. In fact, I enjoy it. But next time you come on RL to ask for help, don't make it so fn difficult to get answers from you so we don't have to waste so much fn time on your behalf flipping cars.

POST 32Original post

Prolly a fix for the next car that he's preparing for BAT. Maybe he's too busy fixing cars to post how he fixed it. ... yeah, I don't believe it either. Griehl, please post your findings. Don't be a taker.

POST 33Original post

He should just start taking his 996's to the dealership now. Or maybe he'll just move over to a different forum for the next conundrum.

POST 34Original post

Quotes source posts: 18196673, 18196905

I think it's fair for the 996 RL community know that Geoff owns a dealership in Savannah GA and regularly resales Porsche cars based on posts on Facebook. This is public knowledge, but maybe not known here on Rennlist. https://riehlautomotive.com

POST 35Original post

Quotes source post: 18196969

Geoff should consider a revenue sharing arrangement. 🤔

POST 36Original post

Quotes source post: 18196969

that�s great for Geoff but I would hope that he still shares his learnings rather than just asking for them!

POST 37Original post

Agree. I have no problem helping anybody, business or otherwise, so long as they are willing to come back and report their findings to the community.

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