991GT3 or 997 GT3 Gen 2 & a Cayman R - Page 2 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

OK Ladies and Gentlemen - This is a real first-world dilemma that I would like the insight of the PH Knowledge Pool on. I am posting on behalf of a friend as in our discussions we have not been able to reach an Optimal Solution Would you rather have a £115k 991 GT3 at or near launch as your main stay of your exciting Car fleet or stick with a 997 GT3 Gen 2 and a Lovely Cayman R. Of course there is additional expenditure and inconvenience of having two cars. When I say inconvenience, when I have had two cars in the past I would always find myself wanting to be in the other one (hardly an inconvenience I know) The cars, a Minty well specified 997 Gen 2 GT3 with superb provenance, a Lovely perfectly specified (for me) Cayman R of equal provenance. Do I group these two beauties together and turn them into a 991 GT3 spec'd to about £115k of our finest Pounds? Let me state that I love the 997 GT3 Gen 2 and I feel the same way about the Cayman R. What would you do, all things considered if you found yourself in this position? Thanks in advance

As I love manual cars, I would probably keep the current GT3, but maybe exchange the Cayman R for a Boxster Spyder to have an open top car in the stable ....

I have a 997.1 GT3 and I would much rather add a Cayman R to it than get a 991 GT3 instead.

I always try to have a hard top coupe and soft top convertible when I have 2 toys just to get a totally different experience so the above is not a bad shout. There is no easy answer as it depends on your circumstances re 2 lots of costs, depreciation, garages etc Do you have alternative DD's ? Is the car a weekend toy ? Personally I wouldn't want a brand new 991 GT3 as my only car

GRBF430F1 said: I always try to have a hard top coupe and soft top convertible when I have 2 toys just to get a totally different experience so the above is not a bad shout. There is no easy answer as it depends on your circumstances re 2 lots of costs, depreciation, garages etc Do you have alternative DD's ? Is the car a weekend toy ? Personally I wouldn't want a brand new 991 GT3 as my only car Thanks for the replies - Yes access to other Daily Drives so 991 GT3 would not be only car. I just wonder the act of consolidate two epic Porsches for one 'bound to be superb' 991 GT3 - would be an action of regret.

Have you already ordered a 991 GT3, if not then that could well be your decision made for you.

Had a 991 GT3 on order....rolled it to the RS version Whilst i wait...."Making do" with a 997.2 GT3 RS.....definitely a first world problem....

have a 7.2 RS and a spyder. last of the true manuals my friend and different enough that I don't get bored of either.

Obviously money is not a problem so I would go for manual CR and 991GT3 - Best of Both Worlds

Very tough choice as the cayman R with a geo tweek and PSE unplugged is a hard car to beat on a B road for out and out enjoyment. The 991 Gt3 is the lastest and greatest , it' s also the best looking 911 for a long time and will sell for more or the same in the 1st year and would be a hoot to be one of the few to be able to own one. If you had a chance to get one for spring 2014 I would go for it. But if I had £120k I would have to buy a f430 Scud. I would also say swap the R for the Spyder if you own a Gt3 gen 2 already. Or swap the Gt3 for the RS one. Nice choice to have

mrdemon said: Very tough choice as the cayman R with a geo tweek and PSE unplugged is a hard car to beat on a B road for out and out enjoyment. The 991 Gt3 is the lastest and greatest , it' s also the best looking 911 for a long time and will sell for more or the same in the 1st year and would be a hoot to be one of the few to be able to own one. If you had a chance to get one for spring 2014 I would go for it. But if I had £120k I would have to buy a f430 Scud. I would also say swap the R for the Spyder if you own a Gt3 gen 2 already. Or swap the Gt3 for the RS one. Nice choice to have I had a Scud. Terrible car compared to a GT3. Extremely fragile, compromised (not a very good track car or road car) and completely awful brakes. Also makes a really obnoxious barky noise. I got rid of mine very quickly and got back into a 997.2 GT3 and it felt great to be home.

http://youtu.be/Ry_Ywh8I9-4 :-) 3 minutes in GT3 does not excite like a F430 Scud to me. never heard any one say its " Extremely fragile" no contest in my eyes.

mrdemon said: http://youtu.be/Ry_Ywh8I9-4 :-) 3 minutes in GT3 does not excite like a F430 Scud to me. never heard any one say its " Extremely fragile" no contest in my eyes. Have you driven both? If not how can you make any judgement. Or are you making a judgement via a YouTube video?!!! They are extremely fragile if driven hard, mine was in the garage several times getting suspension components fixed.

I am making a heart judgement on what I would like to own as a wow factor car for the week ends. I have always loved the F430 Scud, yes it may not live upto the dream but I can also say that in spades about my GT3. Some times the chase and dream is better than the ownership ;-)

Thanks everyone so far for the input - keep it coming. Thanks

For £115k I'd buy a 997 Gen 2 GT3 and a 996 GT3 Gen 2 and have double the fun:-))

Very difficult decision. The 991 GT3 really will be an amazing car and much more of a do-everything than the previous. Do you do many track days? I could imagine possibly getting more enjoyment out of a cayman on a track just from a potential damage cost point of view meaning you get out in it a lot more, plus cheaper tyres etc. (I know this has limited my tracking a bit). My $0.02

Oh yeah..and manual is more fun more of the time

A 996 gt2 and gtr

Anyone with a GT3 and a Cayman R must really hate the sun. Personally I'd ditch the Cayman for a Boxster in that position, but on the original question - no, I wouldn't switch to the 991 (thought about it when it was announced but ruled it out long before the reviews came in). Too many unknowns from new systems (all new engine, gearbox, electric rear steer, electronic diff, electric power steering, etc...) - no idea how reliable they will be and what they will do to the long term ownership prospects (cost wise) if you track the car. The extensive delays to 991 GT3 deliveries with (by all accounts) no meaningful communication to depositors has done nothing to reassure me about the car, and the 6 months that I have been waiting for the promised response to my letter to Porsche GB about the 997 centre lock debacle has done nothing for my confidence that the company will step up if there are issues down the line either. And all that before my being rather attached to the notion of a lever and extra pedal to swap the cogs...

If you keep the current fleet you have 6 pedals to play with instead of the 991 GT3's 2. Simples.

RB_987s said: If you keep the current fleet you have 6 pedals to play with instead of the 991 GT3's 2. Simples. I should have stated that Cayman R is PDK...