I pulled into a hotel parking lot in Phoenix this week and there were six Panameras. No badges, Georgia distributor plates. These are some seriously ugly cars.
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Sorry I forgot to hit upload.
Ill take those brakes...
nice any interior pics,,,,,,
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Two of the cars (turbos?) had huge brakes and three piece rotors. The others had whimpy slotted rotors.
I don't think they're ugly, they're just not head turners. Nothing impressive. The Aston Martin 4 door sedan looks way better though, in comparison.
Nice catch, JimB. Thanks for posting these. Uh, not my cup of tea. But, just like the Cayenne and the Cayman and the Boxster, I'm sure there will be a following of buyers (Doctors with a family, to name one group). They could have extended the roofline and done a Volvo C30 rear treatment and called it a Shooting Break or something. Makes me think they are perfect for Americans since, just like these models, our asses grow fatter with each generation.
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Way better? That's an understatement.
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This is actually the first new Porsche that I really don't like. I love the idea of a high speed 4 door but compared to the other sedans it really sorta sucks.
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You know what they say about opinions right? There like ********, everybody has one!! Brakes do look good, cant wait to drive one!!
Butt ugly... My wife just looked at the pics and asked if AMC was making the Pacer again (I said, no that was the 928)
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Funny! I've always said - the 928 was the best Mercedes that Porsche ever built.
What's up with the gap between the headlight and the bumper? No question the Aston Martin looks much nicer.
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If you're going to call me an *******, at least learn to spell.
How dare they pass through tempe dressed like that. They should be happy I am not there design manager.
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Jim, if you think that is bad, check out this thread from the 997 Forum. Take special note of post #2. It is hilarious!!! 997 Forum thread "Loosing my mind"
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those are porsches? wow, panamama yeah. i guess there goes my brand loyalty....
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yep I was hoping to see Panabanana that was more like a Quatroporte than a big long Lexus.
Those are not images of the pananeramramera......but the new MAzda 939 hatchback
Thanks for the pics JimB. I tend to be attracted to ugly cars .... I like!
I think we should provide some advertising slogans to help move these puppies (is that pups)? Having had a look at the Panamera website, courtesy of one of the other threads, my first suggestion is: The new Panamera - if you don't have high-speed internet, you probably don't want one anyway Some others: The new Panamera - just like a Porsche, only longer Panamera - trading on our reputation one more time something for the expanding family - an expanded Porsche the all-new Porsche for the button deprived
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That's funny stuff!
I don't find the Panamera to be particularly attractive, but the same can be said about the Cayenne. We have a Cayenne, and we love it. It is a wonderful vehicle if you appreciate it for what it is. If Porsche does well selling the Panamera, which I suspect they will, then that helps keep the company profitable, and allows them to invest in the sports car business. I think that good Panamera sales mean better Carreras for us. If you don't like the Panamera, then don't buy one! That's my $.02 worth.
I wouldn't say "ugly". The only thing that looks out of place is the fake metal trim on the front fender (I assume it's plastic). And the rims are ugly. And the rear end is kind of ugly. OK, they're a little ugly! Sad, if a kid sees a Cayanne, and a Panamera, without ever seeing a 911 or Boxster/Cayman, he might think Porsche is an American car company!
typical Porsche, it takes a gen or 2 to finally catch up to what the people see as appealing.... one day people are gonna go oohh and aahh to the Panamera.... did I say those brakes are nice! Must be a pig!
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I do like those brakes! Actually I had dinner with Timo Bernhard (name dropping ) last summer and we asked him if he'd driven the Panamera. It was clear he wasn't allowed to talk about it but he was smiling ear to ear. I'm willing to bet it will be an incredible car to drive.
The only thing I don't like is the rear end in profile. Otherwise it's a handsome, but different, car. And the Aston cheated--you take a DB9 and make it a bit longer in the cabin and you've got a 4 seater, the classic Porsche shape on the other hand doesn't lend itself well to a longer cabin.
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Ok Jim, let me try again. You know what they say about opinions, right? They're like ********, everybody has one!! Brakes do look good, can't wait to drive one!! FYI. I am not calling you an "*******"; you have one, so do I, so does everyone on this forum, you have an opinion, so do I. In my opinion, (my *******, get it now Jim!) the car looks good from every view except the rear. The *** is ugly!! No bueno. But as Timo Bernhard eluded to, it will be an incredible car to drive.
These Panameras are really nice station wagons.
These are Porsches demise. . .
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So let me make sure I understand what you just said.... not only are you calling Jim an *******, you are telling him he has an ugly *******? I'm sorry, but that is way too much information!
i dunno it's grown on me somewhat... Hmph!
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Tim, I'm glad you're still here, but why do you even have to put that image out there,? That's like seeing a picture of a Honda on this forum!
i like the interior. but as for the rest . . .
Not my favorite, but at least it is distinctive. My mother, god rest her soul, had a saying that held up through a long and interesting life--"It could be worse" The other high-end 4 doors I know of are all tending to blur together. . . .BMW/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti . . .
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Look at the first pic in the post - I especially like the black Panamera on the end next to the white one. Classy!!
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Unfortunately, it probably has more miles on it already than your car!
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My wife's new bike has more miles than my car.
Let me be honest... you give me a panermairai for free and I will drive it.....and like with the cayenne...it has to have to right color and rims ....preferably turbo S and you'll be okay.
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..... and it has to have a Tip! Nicholaas, aren't you glad I'm back?
Did anyone mention yet that it almost looks identical to the Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio?
My summary: The Aston 4dr looks fantastic. Love the tail. The Panamera is lordly awful in those pictures. My god, they didn't NEED to stay with the 911 style rear end. It just looks hideous. First though is that it's actually a Citroen. The Maserati Bellagio is even more tragic. How are these cars getting greenlighted? I'll take the Audi S8 over any of them.
Maybe the facelift model will be much improved?
Jim, thanks for the upload though can't exactly thank you for confirming it really is as ugly, to me, as I feared. Saw this pic and thought it might not be too bad ... until I saw yours.
Many of you may know of or read this on a regular basis http://www.autoextremist.com/ "Porsche closes the book on its past, with a resounding thud." This week is his diatribe on Porsche & the Panamera (if someone links to this page much later they will need to search for it - No. 493, April 22, 2009). He really can't stand W. Wiedeking (PAG CEO) and what he has done with the direction of the company...an interesting read just for the theory of what the future of the auto business might come to look like given the Chinese market.
This car may very well put Porsche out of business
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I "voiced" my happiness in the lifetime member**** ( I mean ship) tread
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that is exactly what I thought when I first saw the Cayenne I didn't think anybody would buy that butt ugly SUV...but then again I thought the same when I saw the first narrow body 996 in 1998 in Germany...I HATED IT!! and guess what? I am driving one and loving it. Americans have strange taste when it comes to cars.....that is why in my eyes the (not so) BIG 3 (anymore) gotten away with building S.H.I.T. for decades and still the designs and technology is FAR behind German car makers and ofcourse the Japanese...just my 2 cents Just saying Porsche might have found a niche market for their Panermarea..... time will tell.
It's a 4 door hatchback, 'nuff said! Cayenne didn't start out so gloriously. It's latest incarnation is very nice though. So hopefully this one follows in the same footsteps, gaining its own distinctive/attractive identity.
See the thing is the Cayenne was ugly, granted, but it was a truck, a wagon, and none of its competitors were really so much better looking. It still looked like a truck. People who wanted to buy a truck could see how it fit the bill. That panamera looks very good in the renders from the front and even the 3/4 from the front, but it looks like a wagon with that really unfortunate rear roofline, and I guess guys who like wagons will buy them. Because the guys who like sedans will buy the CLS63, the Aston, the flying spur, the 760, the S63, the S8 etc. That gap between the leading edge of the headlights and the body shell looks really off, but hey whatever. I'm not buying one. Also, some people don't care what other people think. I mean plenty of people like to talk smack about 996 headlights, we all don't seem to mind right? Personally I'm very happy with anonymous as a characterization for my 4 door people mover. Benz/Audi/BMW all make really decent sedans. We've got one of each over here. I don't really want their sports models, and I don't want Porsche's sedans or SUVs much either. If I really needed a truck, I'd buy Ford or Chevy. If I really needed an SUV, I'd buy a Land Cruiser or a Gelandewagen. I guess I'm just not the crossover demographic. I'm the guy who never understood the M5. I mean, who wants a 4 door car with a 6 speed and springs so stiff you need a live in masseuse (I'll take the masseuse though)? Enough guys obviously do, passionately at that. I'd rather have a 4 door luxury car AND a 2 door sports car. That's me. But someone will buy this panamera, and something tells me it's the guys who pay lots of money to convert ferraris and bentleys into station wagons, cause they like that shooting brake look.
It seems I'm in the minority but I like it. I certainly don't love it but I like it. I bet we'll own one after it takes it's 50-60% depreciation hit over the next couple of years.
Brilliant and Right on the money ... from THE AUTOEXTREMIST Porsche closes the book on its past, with a resounding thud. By Peter M. De Lorenzo
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