911s vs Corvette

2017 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S Head 2 Head Comparison The new 911s PDK is ridiculously fast in this test. 3.1s to 60 and 11.5 in the quarter. These guys tested a base Carrera with a stick hitting 60 in 3.9 s. And with the new 718s with PDK at 3.5 s, these newer generation of cars are at a different level of performance. What's next?

More boost. Wait till the GTSs come out. The 991.2 GTS4 will e asily beat the 991.1GT3. oh....and I heard through the grape vine that displacements might be going back up to. :hilarious: How about a 3.8L twin turbo?

Its getting ridiculous. I was watching the Barrett-Jackson Vegas auction, and a 1991 Testarossa with a 5L V12 was advertised as capable of 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, considerably slower than most of our cars. I know 0-60 times are not a great stat for car performance, but I think a 981S can beat most 997 or earlier Carreras. The 718 jumps ahead even further. I almost shudder to think what the high performance electrics, with all that instant torque, are going to be capable of.

Too fast IMO if you buy the 911s for the street. Maybe even the base Carrera or the 718S. I can barely keep from speeding in my slow Boxster S on the highway and on back roads. It would be extremely frustrating to drive such fast cars slow. 991s would certainly be license suspension for me. And they sound very muted so you have supercar performance but no way to use unless you go to the track or make youtube videos for notoriety. I wish Porsche would concentrate on driving pleasure (sound, tactile sensation) instead of these crazy performance metrics. I think the previous generation S, GTS versions delivered that. More and more, I think they dropped the ball on both the 911 and the 718 and concentrated on the wrong things. What the hell do I know!

Yeah....agree with all you said Anand. However, they were forced to by Chinese and EU emissions and tax regulations. No way around it unless they built a plant in the US and only sold them here.

Ever since the later half of the C4 it was hard to not at least respect with what GM was doing on the Y-body platform. With the C5 you could respect it even more. With the C6? Even more -- hell, the LS7 (despite the early valve guide issues) is probably my favorite all time V8 alongside the M159. I strongly considered a C6 Z06, but my biggest issue was the flat seats were a no go as hard driving was a PITA having to brace myself and hold onto the to prevent being thrown during cornering and I wanted side airbags still (so no aftermarket). C7? Pretty damn hard to fault with the competition seats, and I had a lot more confidence in them than I did the C6 or C5. C7 Grand Sport? I mean, if they offered it with an LS7 instead of an LT1, I'd be finding room to put one alongside the Spyder. My only real beef having driven one (regular C7 with Z51 package) used is they still develop a few squeaks and rattles, so the thing you need to do is learn to take everything apart, and apply the foam tape GM didn't. As for the 991.2 C2S, I've driven one myself recently. When I drove the GT-Rs I always was impressed with how it handled the weight, but you couldn't discern what systems were really having a big impact since there's so many. Having now hucked a C2S in anger, you know that modern 4WS is straight-up witchcraft, since 911s dive-bomb apexes with vigor now. Inside the car it sounded fine as well with PSE. If they offered a GTS with a 6-speed manual it'd really make me think, though I don't think I could find a way to put one alongside the Spyder, as that's just too much cake, so I'll continue to say if they make a new Safari I'll bite. Though yes, modern sports cars are reaching a level of performance where it's getting ridiculous. A 981 Boxster S on up is very easy to get arrested in. I'm hoping manufacturers start focusing more on the driving experience rather than winning the numbers war. Even if you buy the ZOMGFASTEST car today, eventually it won't be, so you better hope the driving experience is still great -- the reason why cars like Miatas still endure so well, and why the GT-R never had much interest to me (experience was crap, though it was damn fast).

"What the hell do I know!" After living with a 991.2 C4S, PDK, SC for 6 months, I can tell you that it is both an awesome Track weapon and a docile everyday driver. The "frustration" goes away if you Track the car and can use some % of it's capabilties. I have LCA and ACC which make the car a superb Tollway/Expressway cruiser coupled with it's world class PCM NAV and voice control along with CarPlay, there is no other vehicle I want to drive. I never use Apple Maps anymore. The only downside is the tire noise which is louder than my 981B but not objectionable to me and I really don't like noise in my vehicle interior or exterior, hence no PSE. My winter wheel/tire's are on order. If you don't plan on driving during our Northern winters than the 991.2 C2 may seem like a bargain. As to compairson to a Corvette C7, I will leave that to others,-Richard

The following is not aimed at anyone in particular , but as it was alluded to in a couple of posts here I wanted to 'weigh in". I never understood comments like "It would be extremely frustrating to drive such fast cars slow..." You drive appropriate for the road and conditions, if you feel the need to go faster then reasonable or allowable then you are on the wrong road or you should be on the track. The car has nothing to do with it... as a driver you are responsible for everything that you do behind the wheel and where you do it!

^ This. 100% agreement with Westcoaster Never understand the "frustration" of not being able to drive a fast car fast on the street. My other pet pee is people claiming to turn off the traction control on the street!!! Why why why? The PSM hardly intervenes on the street and if it does then the driving must be really horrible. Go back to the thread, the performance of cars now a day is awesome and I don't mind having either the Corvette or the "cheap" 911. Now is the golden age of performance car, enjoy it folks and live to talk about it.

Looks like the new 991.2 might be my next car. I had a blast with it on my 3 days test drive. I knew it was a very fast car, felt so much faster than my TPC turbo'ed 997. It's all but confirmed at 3.1 seconds to 60 mph. Turbo cars works well up here in the Mile High City, you don't lose as much hp as you do with a naturally aspirated car.

I think that my boosted Volvo XC70 wagon is faster than my 987S at 5500 feet. I know that it is, hitting any of the passes.

For you folks who drive your Porsches at the speed limit on the street, I admire your restraint. As for me, I can't but exceed the limit by 2-3 mph on an empty backroad when no one is looking.

You have the perfect combination that I dream of. A 911 4 or 4s to complement my Boxster S. Right now, I need my SUV for my commuting needs. In time.

There are 2 cars that immediately comes to mind if we are talking about a rewarding driving experience -- the Miata -- especially the ND Miata, and the FRS/BRZ. Both cars offer a fantastically entertaining driving experience, and both cars have been nearly universally praised by the automotive reviewers. But as soon as you look back as sales numbers, these cars are not selling nearly in the same favourable figures as their glowing automotive reviews suggest. The FRS is already a sales disaster in the US, and Miata sales have long been on a steady decline since its heyday in the early 90's. So what happens is, when a manufacturer spends all that money to build a fun car, they don't get rewarded financially to keep building those cars. So where is the incentive to keep doing it?