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YOUR RESEARCHUse Top Tier gas!

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Use defender

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Used defender for my other cars but there seems to be a deal on this,

Use Top Tier gas!
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Fill with techron

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93 all summer and one late fall tank fill with Techron before the last fill and storage.

Use Top Tier gas!
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Use techron a few times back in the day

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Have used Techron a few times back in the day.

Use Top Tier gas!

Use top tier fuel, i still play

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Although I use top tier fuel, I still play on using this a couple of times a year.

Use Top Tier gas!

Fill with techron

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93 all summer and one late fall tank fill with Techron before the last fill and storage.

Use Top Tier gas!

Recommend adding techron 500 miles

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It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall, Porsche recommended adding Techron 500 miles before an oil change.

Use Top Tier gas!
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Fill with techron

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93 all summer and one late fall tank fill with Techron before the last fill and storage.

Use Top Tier gas!

Recommend adding techron 500 miles

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It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall, Porsche recommended adding Techron 500 miles before an oil change.

Use Top Tier gas!

Replace before summer of driving

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Techron after hibernation more of a chance of sediment buildup then an oil change before summer of driving

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Replace says the motor oil geek

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Or an additive every oil change, says the motor oil geek.

Use Top Tier gas!

Replace when she goes into winter hibernation

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My plan is to always burn Top Tier gas and then I'll dump a bottle in before I do the Fall oil change when she goes into winter hibernation.

Use Top Tier gas!

Run saturday

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Hamilton run Saturday.

Use Top Tier gas!

Run toptier all of the time

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You’re running TopTier all of the time.

Use Top Tier gas!

Use chevron gasoline

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FWIW, I will continue to use the Chevron gasoline.

Use Top Tier gas!

Use defender

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Used defender for my other cars but there seems to be a deal on this,

Use Top Tier gas!

Use regular (cheap) fuel

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For the last four years (and 40k miles) I have been using regular (cheap) fuel.

Use Top Tier gas!
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Or an additive every oil change, says the motor oil geek. Compelling data in here. You Tube

POST 2Original post

I agree! My own experience is that my c4s smokes on start up with cheap gas and runs like ****. If I use Sunoco 94, no smoke, runs great. I only use Sunoco 94 unless I�m desperate

POST 3Original post

I saw this episode and have been meaning to post this, so glad you did. I did not know what a TopTier gas was and completely missed that Maverik and Circle-K are not TopTier, but Costco is. Porsche recognizes the benefit of Techron and published a tech bulletin on it. It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall, Porsche recommended adding Techron 500 miles before an oil change. I looked around for the pub because i don't want to start nasty web rumors. I was hoping to post it as my source.

POST 4Original post

Our cars want 93 right? What if only 91 is available?

POST 5Original post

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Like me you burn 91 or just leave it in the garage. 91 will NOT harm our cars.

POST 6Original post

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I moved and miss my non ethanol 93. Used defender for my other cars but there seems to be a deal on this, https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHV6...VZ4mGiQDBKC9Eg I remember there were a couple of different kinds of fuel system cleaner from chevron and wanted to make sure. Is this the one with the PEA?

POST 7Original post

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Techron is PEA Techron is a detergent and cleans deposits. It is not an octane booster. What I found most surprising in the OP's video is that he documents that it reduces cylinder wall wear. This was a bit of an eye-popper for me. We recognize the risk of bore scoring and here is a tool to help reduce the risk of that. My plan is to always burn Top Tier gas and then I'll dump a bottle in before I do the Fall oil change when she goes into winter hibernation.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 20068253

That's exactly my routine. 93 all summer and one late fall tank fill with Techron before the last fill and storage.

POST 9Original post

Although I use top tier fuel, I still play on using this a couple of times a year. https://www.drivenracingoil.com/prod...IgPKkKHcQyfgTT

POST 11Original post

That�s great to hear about Costco gas� I felt guilty for putting it in, but it has been running great on it. Now I know.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Top Tier gas will say so on the pump. No need to wonder.

POST 13Original post

996x BMCHan you should do the opposite Techron after hibernation more of a chance of sediment buildup then an oil change before summer of driving because you�ll be driving more less of a chance for carbon build up hopefully by doing some redline runs lol

POST 14Original post

Every oil change? I seem to be adding it every 2k miles and only put in Shell 91. I also Costco but refuse to stay in those gas lines here.

POST 15Original post

So, I will offer a perspective from a daily driver's perspective. I actually thought that "Top Tier" was code for name-brand fuel. Due to this view I thought all fuels were the same. After watching Lake's video I have decided to try the "Top-Tier" fuel. I live in the San Fernando Valley and there is a 20 cent per gallon difference in cost per gallon, so it is not a trivial difference in cost. For the last four years (and 40k miles) I have been using regular (cheap) fuel. Based on Lake's recommendation, I am going to use Top Tier fuel. Hopefully it will help. I will report my experience here.

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Here is Porsche’s logic. You’re running TopTier all of the time. The big dose needs to go through the engine, which is accomplished by 500 miles, aka two tanks of gas. But the dilution of the oil’s wear properties by PEA, means you want the PEA byproduct and what it scrubbed remaining in the oil for the least time possible.

POST 17Original post

I have been using the top-tier fuel (Chevron) now for 10 months and about 7k miles. There has been no discernable change to how the engine runs. I just got my first UOA and it seems the fuel dilution is a bit high (1.45). I have no idea what it was previously. I will try a PEA fuel treatment to see if it helps lower the fuel dilution. FWIW, I will continue to use the Chevron gasoline.

POST 18Original post

I've come to really love The Oil Geek. However, I missed this video. Thanks a bunch to the OP for posting. I had no clue about fuel additives from the pump. Have used Techron a few times back in the day. But figured much of the advertising about "additives" was just marketing hype. Apparently not! And how nice to know Costco is supplying its members with Top Tier. That's what I try to use. That's what I filled up with on my Mt. Hamilton run Saturday. After watching this video, I'll be using Top Tier exclusively in the 911 for sure and will do my best for the other cars in the family. Really good info. Thanks again!

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