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Replace every 7 years or so

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IMSB: can be upgraded with the LN Solution which is a permanent solution or the LN Retro which will need to be replaced every 7 years or so.

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Replace air oil separator

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The two-part answer is that one, you can test pressure vacuum to confirm intact function and secondly, regardless of function you should consider replacing the AOS with an ultimate AOS to avoid catastrophic failure.

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Leading evidence: 'Replace every 7 years or so' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace air oil separator' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace air oil separator

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The two-part answer is that one, you can test pressure vacuum to confirm intact function and secondly, regardless of function you should consider replacing the AOS with an ultimate AOS to avoid catastrophic failure.

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Replace water pump every 5 years or so

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Easy fix by replacing the water pump every 5 years or so with a new one.

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Run high quality high viscosity oil

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Easily mitigated by running high quality high viscosity oil with lots of moly.

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Run properly and you should be in good shape

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Change it 2x a year, keep your fuel injectors, oxy sensors and MAF fresh and running properly and you should be in good shape.

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Replace air oil separator

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The two-part answer is that one, you can test pressure vacuum to confirm intact function and secondly, regardless of function you should consider replacing the AOS with an ultimate AOS to avoid catastrophic failure.

Questions about AOS [air/oil separator]

Replace every 7 years or so

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IMSB: can be upgraded with the LN Solution which is a permanent solution or the LN Retro which will need to be replaced every 7 years or so.

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Replace water pump every 5 years or so

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Easy fix by replacing the water pump every 5 years or so with a new one.

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Run high quality high viscosity oil

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Easily mitigated by running high quality high viscosity oil with lots of moly.

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Run properly and you should be in good shape

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Change it 2x a year, keep your fuel injectors, oxy sensors and MAF fresh and running properly and you should be in good shape.

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Run strong

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They are incredible cars that are easy to keep running strong.

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Test health of your aos

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Do a search on this forum for testing the health of your AOS with a manometer.

Questions about AOS [air/oil separator]

Test pressure vacuum

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The two-part answer is that one, you can test pressure vacuum to confirm intact function and secondly, regardless of function you should consider replacing the AOS with an ultimate AOS to avoid catastrophic failure.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi All, I'm liking this forum a lot.. many good suggestions from my first post...As an aside I am not a completely clueless novice to Porsches having owned multiple air cooled versions ; [ 56 4-cam speedster... 356 "C" coupe...several 67 911's [one an "S"..hence the user name]...85 911SC Targa...several 914 cars [restoring a 74 1.8 now].. and other water cooled versions 924 and my wife's [I like It too] 16 Cayenne......Enough background information, This 99 996 coupe is my first water-cooled 911, so I am going to depend upon the collective [resistance is futile.. :-)] wisdom to help me through the birthing pain ....Coupe [68k on the clock] is now having all four struts replaced, total brake flush, engine transmission [TIP] flush and filters, spark plugs... plus cabin filter...NOW for the good part...The AOS system [to my untrained eyes] appears to be functioning ; BUT are there any in situ tests that I can perform to verify it's function... NO smoke on startup, NO leaks, NO smells of unburnt fumes..BUT still inquiring minds want to know , is it OK for now... car has had limited miles on it for about 5 years....AFTER everything else is sorted...ITALIAN TUNEUP?...Please give me the wisdom of your experiences... THIS will be a KEEPER for me....Thanks/Cheers....JON

POST 2Original post

Hey Jon, Looks good. there are several good threads on your aos. The two-part answer is that one, you can test pressure vacuum to confirm intact function and secondly, regardless of function you should consider replacing the AOS with an ultimate AOS to avoid catastrophic failure. So search ultimate AOS here and you will get the picture in a hurry. Cheers.

POST 3Original post

Congrats Jon. There are 3 main catastrophic failure points on the 996 that are very easily addressed thru upgraded parts. 1. AOS: Otto had mentioned the AOS, which can be upgraded to the UAOS to prevent smoking, AOS intermix and worst case hydrolock which will destroy your cylinders. 2. Water Pump: Failure of the bearings in the water pump leads to a wobble which breaks off the fins and they lodge in the heads creating cracking. Easy fix by replacing the water pump every 5 years or so with a new one. 3. IMSB: can be upgraded with the LN Solution which is a permanent solution or the LN Retro which will need to be replaced every 7 years or so. The fourth failure point is bore scoring, which is a slow deterioration in your cylinders. Easily mitigated by running high quality high viscosity oil with lots of moly. Change it 2x a year, keep your fuel injectors, oxy sensors and MAF fresh and running properly and you should be in good shape. Enjoy your 996. They are incredible cars that are easy to keep running strong.

POST 4Original post

If the AOS is original (likely given the mileage) it's a good idea to have it replaced. The rubber diaphragm would be aged out by now and not worth taking a risk on. Same goes for the water pump... it's not worth taking a chance for the cost of replacement.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OTTO...By "pressure" do you mean positive or negative....my understanding is that this is a PCV system to scavenge crankcase fumes.... so my money is on positive pressure at the oil filler cap...

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Do a search on this forum for testing the health of your AOS with a manometer.

POST 7Original post

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The system works under vacuum, so negative at the oil filler cap.

POST 8Original post

If it fails sometimes it pulls so hard it can be difficult to get the oil cap off.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Absolutely correct.... negative pressure on the system.... I did read and was informed by the AOS thread... -5.0 to 7.0 negative pressure is optimal... will be testing this soon... meanwhile new water pump, and belt is in order....[IMS has been addressed]....full speed ahead....Thanks and CHEERS, Jon

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Add a new thermostat and upgraded metal AOS coolant line adapter to the list as well while you have the system drained: https://www.rauchandspiegel.com/prod...oil-separator/ Also, the 3-way hose from the coolant tank is usually crispy from the exhaust manifold heat, you can see the hose here in my documented coolant tank replacment thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...it-begins.html

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes, that strategy works for me... parts on order along with new spark plug tubes....Cheers, JON

POST 12Original post

Sport suspension with limited slip (sport package) & hollow spokes all wrapped in Artic Silver with ambers...what a great combo!

POST 14Original post

I recently had to have a major rebuild of my 2003 C4/CAB after the AOS failed, Oil level was correct, the AOS failed and I didnt realize it, went through a hard 180 right turn and the engine sucked raw oil in to the drivers bank cylinders. Wasn't even a lot of oil, cracked the cylinders (Major D-chunk) luckily no rod or crank damage and I was not hard on the throttle when I did it. FUn part is the stock AOS can and has failed days after being installed.. Your ileage May vary as they say.. (My car has about 116K on it when it happened and it had been serviced before with new factory Porsche parts. ) GOod Luck.

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Real quick, can you explain how the failure of the AOS contributed to the situation you described in your post?

POST 17Original post

Yep, hydrolock. Very easy to prevent by upgrading the factory AOS to the UAOS.

POST 19Original post

Basically, oil/mist goes thru the factory AOS into the intake and accumulates in the cylinders and creates excessive pressure that cracks the cylinders. The factory AOS is a weak link in the engine because its unable to process the oil/mist and the oil flows to the cylinders. The UAOS is a just a better design. It has a bunch of screens/filters that catches the oil so it cant get into the intake amd instead drains it back to the sump. As we have talked about many times on Rennlist, the UAOS os so we'll designed that you can overfill the engine with oil, park it on a hill or even do high G turns at the track, and it collects the oil without even a hick-up.

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