It is supposed to be introduced with the TT in '06. How long will it take to make it to the Cayman?
That is a very good question and one that I have been thinking about a lot lately. You see, I am thinking that I want to keep this car for the long term and turn into a track/road rally car in 5-6 year time. As the owner of a new Golf GTi with DSG (acutally it's my wife's), I know I would love to have DSG in the Cayman. So do I drive around in the Boxster S for a couple more years or do I get the Cayman S for a couple of years and get a DSG one later?
TT introduction is a rumor, Porsche has never stated that. Been rumored for some time in several cars like the 996 GT3 at one point. Not holding my breath, will revisit the question IF and WHEN it ever does become available in the Cayman.
...can someone tell me what TT your refereing to as my Audi TT had from the back end of 2003?
...if it became an option for the Cayman I'd chop mine in straight away and reorder with it
Dean
TT is Porschespeak for Twin Turbo, or just Turbo.I believePorsche has been using twin turbochargers to decrease turbo lag since the 993 series of Porsche Turbos, don't believe the 964 (3.3 and 3.6) were twin turbos, but somebody here will correct me PDQ if I'm wrong. Just my 02 cents on the DSG transmission is that once Porsche makes a committment it will be the end of the tiptronic in their sports cars and possibly even the Panamera (new 4D 'coupe' for 09). I can only seen the Cayenne soldiering on with the tiptronic offering. How much is this going to cost? Porsche charges $3200 USD for the Tip, are they going to charge $5K USD for a transmission that others offer for much less. Will the DSG be offered in the GT3 as standard or, most probably, optional and again how much and for how many customers? If the Porsche DSG is a $5K (or more, it's a PORSCHEtransmission) will the tiptronic customer buy it or does Porsche still have to offer the Tip (BMW offers Steptronic and SMG). I see DSG as a business decision as much as a performance decision for Porsche.
Edited by - DaveC on 11/10/2005 07:18:25 AM
In the M5, the electronic shifting of the transmission allowed BMW to place the gears in an arrangement that made sense from a design/performance standpoint, but would not have produced an acceptable mechanical shift pattern. DSG would allow that flexibility here also. The quicker shifts should show up in better acceleration. And the matched revs on downshifts should also make it easier to go fast.
BMW charge a few hundred more for Sequential over Automatic where they are both options. NC where auto is standard. Porsche is about profits first and cars second, so I imagine it may be a $3500 option.
However, you do save th $800 for the 'Sport Shifter' that should have been standard.
Edited by - DavidNJ on 11/10/2005 09:35:29 AM
. . . thanks matey! DSG is all what it's cracked up to be and I will miss it (for a while).
Dean
Could someone please explain DSG to me. I watch Porsche GT3's racing and they have a shifting action that I would love to have. All the driver does is tap the shifter forward and it shifts up. They tap it back and it down shifts.What is it?
Mike
The 11/05 'Automotive Engineering' (SAE magazine) has a blurb on the Cayman and mentions that, yes, Porsche is working on bringing the twin clutch system (and since Porsche is purchasing 20% of VW (which controls Audi) it ought to be a bit easier).
From the Audi USA website: 'What exactly is DSG? It's a system that operates with a double, rather than single clutch. This allows two gears to be engaged at the same time, which in turn allows DSG to anticipate the driver's every move; when one gear is engaged, the next is already pre-selected. The result: no loss in propulsive forces as you shift gears, and the engine's full power transferred to the road - which in turn gives you striking acceleration, rock-solid cornering stability, and incredible performance. When compared to a manual, DSG can deliver faster shifts - less than .2 seconds - better acceleration figures, and more economical fuel consumption.'
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Although ZeroShift may be better...
http://www.zeroshift.com/
And you will especially like this:
http://www.zeroshift.com/products/gearboxtrace.htm
Edited by - DavidNJ on 11/11/2005 11:19:26 AM
Edited by - DavidNJ on 11/11/2005 11:20:30 AM
THIS IS THE FUTURE, THANK YOU FOR THE INFO.
MIKE