For my 7.5 decade birthday present for myself, I bought a center/tips outlet for my '09
987.2
base. Mine obviously has the single oval center outlet, and all the cool guys have dual pipe outlets. So - I found one where a chap had installed some aftermarket system and he was willing to sell me his center dual-outlet bit off his S for reasonable money.
Now - the question is installing it. Does the exhaust have to be removed to install it? It appears it would need at least a 2" spread between the two mufflers to get the old one off and the new one on.
Anyone done this? Care to comment?
TIA!
I wouldn't try it on the car. The exhaust comes off pretty quickly as it has 3 bolt flanges at the manifolds, and a few bolts for the transmision brace.
A car that old, nothing is going to be easy to loosen/remove. Be prepared to replace some broken bolts. Maybe soak them in PB Blaster the night before. I installed some Fabspeed twin tips on my 2010 base when it was only 1 yr old and never driven in slush/snow. So the bolts were no problem. After loosening the clamps holding the old tee (and IIRC loosening slightly the muffler hangers on each side), I used a spreader to force the cans apart. Something like this but you reverse the ends to push rather than clamp
Yup, except I didn't have a helper. So the spreader really made it easy. And that video reminded me I forgot about the upper connector tubes needing to be loosened.
i would never attempt a removal of an exhaust from a 10 year old car or older. i worked in a garage when young and about 9 times out of 10 the impact cutter made a grand entrance into the room before all was said and done.
you might want to give one half-hearted effort, but IMO, it's no place for the "...if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" philosophy. hickson wrote music, he didn't work on rusty old exhaust systems. if he had he would have written, "...if at first you don't succeed, don't be a dweeb, take it to Muffler King", they can have your rusty nuts off in two shakes of a lamb's tail.
I guess I should follow up on this..
My regular mechanic - who works on all sorts of foreign cars (mostly English and some Italian exotics) had the car for an oil change and I asked him about installing the tip assembly. He wouldn't give me an estimate of the time involved, but intimated that it could be costly, with R&R of the entire system involved. I decided not to go that route.
I have another mechanic - who specializes in Porsche and particularly Boxsters since his shop races boxsters (Provost Motorsports, Rt 206, Bordentown NJ) - who when I called told me to bring it down and they'd have me out in less than 30 minutes. I took the car to him - he put it on the lift and 10 minutes later lowered it and was done. He priced the job accordingly.
@hueyhioolihan - When you were young exhausts were probably made from mild steel. Stainless didn't show up until around 1990's cars - mostly because they were part of the EPA emissions warranty, so manufacturers were forced to make them out of something that lasts. The boxster exhaust is made of stainless. The bolts used are generally high quality and in the case of my exhaust, it had been off much more recently than 10 years ago - since a Fister exhaust was installed by the last owner. There was no problem R&R the exhaust tip assembly. I think my regular mechanic works on too many crappola English cars from the 1950's and '60's - where exhaust started rusting before it ever left the factory, so his feeling on the time required was influenced by that experience. Provost knows boxsters. They race boxsters. Swapping an exhaust part was an easy quick job for them.
BTW - found out that the tips I installed weren't Porsche stock - they were Carnewal tips - not the simple "T tip assembly Porsche used. Still of excellent quality and I think they even sound a bit different. I'm now one of the cool guys with dual-tips.
I'm 63 years old and never been a paid mechanic, but I was amazed how good of shape the 15 year old oem exhaust was and how easy it was to remove.
Admittedly I have a lift, and the lighting and tools. Just take your time and think each task through.
I'm fixing to change the tips on the exhaust I recently installed and knowing that the flange nuts are now new and uncoroded, I too believe it's a 30 minute task at most.
Amazing cars!
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If you raise the car you can access the drivers side better than passenger side connection.
Left wheel removed is even easier.
Use wobble socket and back that connection off.
Move the upper clamp on the mid section and slide to side.
Remove cosmetic tip section.
Replace with your new one.
Quite easy.
Enjoy
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