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What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

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Changed the size of the pics on here now and had to upload new ones because in fact my originals were huge, but I posted the smaller version of them!!

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When they pulled out the front shocks they found the top rubber bump stops were screwed (read, old), so replaced those.

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Use parking space stops i think

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The ride height is perfect and not too low...slammed...and the front bumper will still clear kerb stones used for parking space stops I think.

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What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

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What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

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Check with the technician

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What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

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Clean look of the

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Nice and clean look of the

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The forum software has been changed over the years and unfortunately many of the attachments in old post were lost in the migration.

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Changed the size of the pics on here now and had to upload new ones because in fact my originals were huge, but I posted the smaller version of them!!

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When they pulled out the front shocks they found the top rubber bump stops were screwed (read, old), so replaced those.

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Many also used 3rd party off site host for their images here which means they all go away if removed by or any other problems occur with the 3rd party host site

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Use any shims or not....will

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What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

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Use eibach

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Either brands would have been fine for me as I've used Eibach before and been very happy with them.

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Use parking space stops i think

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The ride height is perfect and not too low...slammed...and the front bumper will still clear kerb stones used for parking space stops I think.

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POST 1Original post

You can never have too many details and pics of our cars, so here are some more of my PASM equipped 987.1S with comparison photos of stock and after install of H&R aftermarket springs. I went with H&R because I like the relationship they have with Porsche racing and wanted a lower look than maybe Eibach would have given. Either brands would have been fine for me as I've used Eibach before and been very happy with them. I took measurements of critical areas for comparison prior to the install and as soon as I get a chance will take post install measurments and post them up. I had the springs installed and alignment completed at the dealer because they offered me a price I simply could not refuse. Also as I am in the process of moving house it would have been a while before I'd have been able to do it myself. Model: Cayman S Year: 2006 Wheels: 19" Sport Design Tyres: 245/35-19 Front & 275/35-19 Rear Option: PASM The H&R Springs P/N 29168-1 (European part number is different to US) The install; Front When they pulled out the front shocks they found the top rubber bump stops were screwed (read, old), so replaced those. Rear The results Front wheel PASM vs H&R Rear wheel PASM vs H&R The finished result - Several shots to try and show the overall look Overexposed photo but better shows the wheel arch gaps Unfortunately my camera takes amazing HD video but not fantastic pictures, but hopefully you get the idea of the before and after look. The ride height is perfect and not too low...slammed...and the front bumper will still clear kerb stones used for parking space stops I think. The ride is slightly firmer but not a huge difference from what I feel. The springs will probably settle a little more but the biggest difference can already be seen. The only downside is that spacers are a must now as the wheels really looked tucked in now. Time to start saving! :cheers: More details to follow........

POST 2Original post

Lovely, that is definetly my next mod along with spacers.

POST 3Original post

I like the more aggressive stance. I think our cars look so much better with less of a gap between the wheel and fender. Your is lowered but not dumped. Cars without PASM look like 4X4's from the factory. Your car looks perfect now.

POST 4Original post

Looks really nice! Would you mind posting some bigger pics? Even enlarged it's hard to see the wheel well gaps.

POST 6Original post

looks great Daniel ! This should take off a second or two off your lap times at yas

POST 7Original post

Will do. The shadows don't really help either Later today I need to get some shots of the wheels/arches as well and will put them up along with bigger pics.

POST 8Original post

Changed the size of the pics on here now and had to upload new ones because in fact my originals were huge, but I posted the smaller version of them!! If you go to my gallery you'll find the new size ones and the previous massive version The shadows kill a little bit of it and if I had spacers it wouldn't be an issue as the arches would not shadow the tyres. Later today will come close up wheel pics and dimensional data hopefully :cheers:

POST 9Original post

New pics added above! Measurements to follow......:cheers:

POST 10Original post

What's the cost on this type of Mod including installation?

POST 12Original post

DAMN that looks good! Thanks for the bigger pics.

POST 13Original post

If only! Not sure it will make much difference on track as PASM already does a really good job, and think only coilovers would help dramatically. But I guess we'll see, and maybe it is better as it will offer less roll compared to PASM in normal mode but less hard than PSM in sport and so maybe a better compromise for riding the curbs at Yas I can't base an answer on my install as the parts from a supplier in Germany were much cheaper than else where, and surprisingly the first time I've found a part from a German brand that is cheaper than the US! On top of that I got a great installation deal with my dealer In total it cost me under $600 including parts, install and replacement of the bump stops ($45)...and best of all I didn't have to get my tools out of my tool box. Generally over your side of the pond (US), I have seen Eibach and H&R spring sets from anywhere between $320-500, so best to do some shopping around. For the install labour I've seen figures, again stateside, of $300-600 and alignment costs between $80-150, so again worth shopping around. Oh and you should look in the classifieds as there is a set of Eibach's for sale. Thanks! Spacers will really show it off better. Cheers! I wanted to provide as many pics as possible, and didn't think it would be such a pain to get pics without the shadows and actually show the gap properly! :cheers:

POST 14Original post

car looks amazing, cant wait to get mine next year

POST 15Original post

Looks really well, hopefully a mod that i'll carry out before the summer. I'm still undecided between the eibachs and the H&Rs but I think your article has swung me towards the H&Rs.

POST 16Original post

where can i get these springs? I looked at this part number and it always comes up as springs for the Boxter , are cayman and boxter springs interchangeable? thanks

POST 17Original post

The part number I listed is wht H&R list on their European site and is what available outside of NA. For NA you need 54020 based on H&R's US website. However, there is no difference in the OEM springs between Boxsters and Caymans as they have the same part numbers (I just checked) and I think customers have even reported the box saying one part number and inside them being the other. I think the difference may just be place of manufacture or something and maybe the 54020 are manufactured in the US and the 29168 in Germany....I can't think of an explanation other than this. The OEM suspension is no different for any 987's shipped anywhere, so it seems either 54020 or 29168 are fine. Just to avoid any issue I'd still suggest ordering 54020 for you to save any later pointless discussions that may come up with the retailer you use.

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I was meant to post up measurements from before and after install but during our house move I seem to have misplaced the original ride height figures for the front. Rear went from 39.2cm down to 35.5cm between centre of wheel and lower edge of fender arch. After two months the springs have settled by another 4mm in the front to 34.6mm * and 3mm in the rear to 35.2cm *. * Measurement taken between wheel centre and fender edge. Tyre to fender gap is now 1.5 fingers in the front and 1.25 in the rear. This is how the car sits now (not that the 3 & 4mm difference can be seen, but it's always nice to post a pic anyway!); Sorry about the flash reflections on the car, but I don't have a great still camera and need the flash to counter the sun here and stop the red being all washed out.

POST 19Original post

It still looks outstanding! Interesting about the ride height settling another 3 or 4mm. Can you feel any difference int steering? That may be enough camber change to warrant an alignment check.

POST 20Original post

Thanks! It made a hell of a difference to the look of the car and I didn't expect such a visual impact. TBH the 3-4mm may be less or more as the first time I didn't have access to tape and a good location to spend time scrabbling on the floor. With the allignment being done immediately after install I think it should be fine and steering feels perfect, however I've not driven the car a great deal lately.

POST 21Original post

that's very interesting.. I installed Eibachs a few months ago and the front has a gap of ~ 1/2 finger while the back is ~ 1 1/2 fingers. I was always under the impression that H&Rs gave a larger drop than the Eibachs. Oh well, too late for me now...

POST 23Original post

Looks sweet! Guess you have spacers as well, based on the lack of shadow on the tyres?

POST 24Original post

So the H&R drop the rear lower than the front, and the Eibachs drop the front more than the rear. Am I correct? If true, looks like the Eibachs would provide a better handling car.

POST 25Original post

Nice and clean look of the Cayman . This is definitely my next mod after my wheels. You got a really good deal on the price of the springs and install. My dealer here in Toronto is charging almost $1200 with install and alignment. Install and alignment would alone be $800. I think for a set of springs that is quite a bit of money. If I didn't have a CPO I would have gotten it done elsewhere. Keep up the good job!

POST 26Original post

On my car the difference is minimal and so I doubt it makes much of a difference in reality. What I was happy with is that the overall look is even, and I really need to check with the technician which did the work if he used any shims or not....will check tomorrow.

POST 27Original post

This is very helpful information but unfortunately none of your pics showed up for me. My browser maybe?

POST 28Original post

This discussion is from 9 years ago and the person you are replying to hasn't logged onto this site since 2015. The forum software has been changed over the years and unfortunately many of the attachments in old post were lost in the migration. Many also used 3rd party off site host for their images here which means they all go away if removed by or any other problems occur with the 3rd party host site

POST 29Original post

You will likely be better off just doing a Google search for the type of images you are looking for and adding planet-9.com or ********.com to the end of the search. This should take to you to many other sources and existing images on the forums if all you are trying to do is see what the car looks like. I found many H&R lowered 981 Caymans doing this below. My 981 is also on H&R Sport springs, and my only warning is just be aware this will lower the car more than any factory Porsche suspension option will, even the X-73 Sport suspension. In retrospect I prefer the looks of the X-73 suspension better which is about 1 inch lower than the standard suspension and plan to change mine out at some point. My car is 1.8 inches lower than the factory standard suspension and needs to be at least .5 inches or so higher than it is now in the rear. The required labor/cost to do just spring swap on the 981 is practically the same as doing a full suspension swap or coilovers, so choose wisely Google Search

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