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As an admitted habitual speeder I've trained myself to pretty much always drive with defensive paranoia at the forefront of my mind, and try really hard to never let my guard down, I use those devices to help my eyes, not replace them.
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Every time I use WAZE or a radar detector, I get pulled over.
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In Florida If you have a clean driving record go to court and plead no contest .....
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As an admitted habitual speeder I've trained myself to pretty much always drive with defensive paranoia at the forefront of my mind, and try really hard to never let my guard down, I use those devices to help my eyes, not replace them.
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Got to the lawyer's site. Says it requires mandatory appearance, so it is an M. 50mph over has $1,100 fine. Not too bad.
http://ejdirga.com/traffic_tickets/s...speed-law.html
I will let you know if I get arrested. I was checking to find out how hard I can push the car this weekend ^^. Red Ferrari premium will apply to the ticket
Anything over 30 MPH over the posted speed limit is considered reckless driving and requires a mandatory court appearance. The officer has the discretion to arrest you or just give you a promise to appear. First hand experience (didn't get arrested).
In Florida If you have a clean driving record go to court and plead no contest ..... usually no points and a fee equal to ticket cost.... couple hours of time.... bad record they may give you a driving school plus fees....
I'm not going be much assistance here, other than to advise you to download the WAZE app and use together with a radar detector. WAZE has saved my butt at least three times since I downloaded it in September. Don't rely just on a radar/laser detector. Sometimes the cops will be shut down until they visually isolate you, and if they are using laser your goose will be cooked, as the saying goes. And if you are in the middle of a pack of cars and grab their attention, they will ignore the other cars and pull you out. Even more likely in a red Ferrari vs. a Porsche 911.
The only time I ever got clocked doing over 100 was about 15 years ago and it probably ranks up there as 2nd luckiest traffic cop moment in my life. It was 2:30am and I was on my way home on the stretch of I-275 called the Howard Frankland Bridge, which connects Tampa and St.Petersburg across Tampa Bay.
I was driving an '88 Acura Legend coupe and had a European "D" (Deutschland) country sticker on the back of the car. Lucky for me, the cop was former military and had spent time in Germany and recognized the sticker and asked me my connection to Germany and why I was going so fast. I told him I been out with friends as the designated driver that night, and because I had an appointment to take my car in for scheduled maintenance the next day I was giving it somewhat of a shake-down run. And with the complete lack of traffic I allowed myself to get got caught up in an autobahn-flashback... He actually laughed at my response and we ended up chatting for almost 20 minutes. It was like he was holding me hostage to talk about driving in Europe and how much he missed driving his old BMW sedan on the autobahn from his service years of being stationed there as well. He was, by far, the coolest cop I've ever dealt with. In the end, he told me he had radioed my plate in for speeding prior to getting out of his cruiser, so he was obligated to ink a ticket. He also told me that under normal circumstances I would have likely ended up in the county clink for reckless driving or endangerment. Instead, I got a ticket for doing 82 in a 70. That was, by far, the happiest speeding ticket I ever wrote a check for.
If you do get pulled over going that fast, maybe tell the cop you're Vladimir Putin's nephew and are on your way to Donald Trump's house in South Florida... Maybe you'll get lucky? Let us know how that works out for you.
If one is driving 100 mph in a safe car that is capable, and the conditions are appropriate, it is BS that this is an offense of any type. Call Trump and complain.
Depends where you get the ticket. Broward will arrest you. So will North Miami. Anywhere in the panhandle you are going away. troopers on the TPK are really bad as well...especially the women.
Worth taking to a traffic ticket attorney - I paid $350 and got my >100 ticket dismissed - didn't even have to go to court - but California may be different from Florida .....
It depends on the county. Mrs. Gator is the traffic court judge in my county. If you get stopped here in my county, you may avoid the ride to jail but bring your checkbook to court. She's brutal.
Rarely see anyone pulled over on 95 for speeding, the norm is 80 if traffic is flowing. You need eyes in back of your head around here. Superbikes riding wheelies in HOV lane while standing, never once have seen them pulled over. You need to be a special kind of idiot to get the troopers to chase you. But you're halfway there if your renting a red fiat. Homestead DE this weekend with PDG on Sunday by the way. Go pose with the other fiats.
I have (1) ticket for doing 17 MPH over the speed limit and
I have (1) ticket for reckless driving because I did not brake at an intersection and took the corner at 40 MPH, tires scretched just a little and there was a motorcycle cop at the intersection. He busted me for reckless driving because I took a corner at the speed limit. Thought it was dumb but didn't want to take the time to fight it.
Wow, my Mom had an '87 Acura Legend with BBS wheels and a factory CD player.
Every time I use WAZE or a radar detector, I get pulled over. It gives me a false sense of security and keeps me from paying really close attention to where cops might be sitting.
To to be honest, I'm glad that not all cops automatically put you in jail for 30+ over. Speed is always a factor in a dangerous situation, but driver skill, equipment, conditions, also play a part. I'd rather have a hefty fine than feel like a criminal for driving fast.
Thanks for the replies from FL people.
The issue with 30+ is not just the fine, it is the nature of the ticket. If you get convicted for M, then you HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF THE CRIME. And every job application (Cali is exception I think) requires you to click the "yes" box to the related question and explain it.
In AZ, the laws are pretty silly when it comes to speed. Although the interstate speed limit is 75mph, driving 85mph+ is an automatic "criminal speed" misdemeanor with 3 points attached. A lot of visitors stick to the +10 rule and think if they get caught it is a regular "I" ticket, but then they get a shock of "mandatory appearance" and 3 points heading their way.
From lawyers: The most common penalty is usually a fine and a conviction on your record. The real issue is the conviction. While fines are painful, they’re momentary. But a conviction on your record lasts forever. For some reason, the Arizona legislature made it impossible to set aside a criminal speeding violation. Once convicted, you can’t get it off your record, ever. That’s harsh
Let's just make it official
http://www.dmvflorida.org/speeding-ticket.shtml
If you are over 100 mph on the interstate, mandatory court appearance, and there will be additional fines and court costs.
Scenario 1: On the interstate, Florida Highway Patrol pulls you over and said he got you at 105 mph, hands you a ticket and you have to show up in court. Non criminal traffic infraction.
Scenario 2: On the interstate, Florida Highway Patrol pulls you over and said he got you at 105 mph, cites you for either reckless driving or aggressive driving and speeding, impounds your car and gives you a ride to the local jail for booking where you get a subsequent court date. Criminal misdemeanor traffic violation with possible jail time, ticket costs and court costs
Scenario 3: On the interstate, Florida Highway Patrol pulls you over and said he got you at 99 mph, hands you a ticket and you pay the ticket cost of around $300. Mailing a check or paying online is accepted.
Don't speed. The traffic flow on I-95 and I-75 is around 80 mph (speed limit of 70) and generally, if you are going with the flow, they tend to ignore you, unless, the Trooper had a bad night with the missus or feels a need to make a roadside example. They will pick out a Porsche every time, because, everybody loves to see a Porsche pulled over and the Trooper figures if you have the car then you have the money. Great revenue generator. Same for any exotic car.
Same mostly applies to the Florida Turnpike (Orlando to Miami) as well, except I have found the traffic flow is more in the 80-90 mph range. Do not speed in the panhandle (redneck troopers) or near the greater Miami area (congested and closely watched with traffic cameras).
FHP Troopers drive both marked and unmarked vehicles. Marked stand out like a sore thumb. Unmarked range from Dodge Challengers to SUV's and even some exotic cars confiscated from drug dealers. They either go with the flow of traffic, or sit in obscure locations along the interstate. The center medians are heavily vegetated and they have hidey holes so you don't even see them until you look and are right on them, and they fire their laser directly at you.
I've owned 7 acuras in the last 22 years. IMHO, they are easily among the best "other" cars out there. In addition to my 996, I currently own a 2005 RL (sold around the world as the Honda Legend) which has been a fantastic car to drive and maintain.
Anyway, regarding radar detectors and waze, I can see how it is all to easy to let one's guard down due to a false sense of security. I got my first radar detector in 1990 after moving here from Germany and promply got a ticket a week later. Lesson learned.... But the flip side of that is that if I had a ticket for every time my radar or waze saved my butt, I'd proably not have a drivers license and definitely wouldn't have a Porsche.
As an admitted habitual speeder I've trained myself to pretty much always drive with defensive paranoia at the forefront of my mind, and try really hard to never let my guard down, I use those devices to help my eyes, not replace them. This helps with cops and with idiot drivers as well.
I contend that the faster I drive, the more aware and alert I am to what's going on around me. And it's tough driving in FL without speeding. If you're going the speed limit outside of a neighborhood around where I live, you're basically a moving speedbump. Pretty much EVERYBODY is usually going 10-15mph over in zones that have 45mph and higher speed limits. And more often than not, cops will simply let traffic flow unless it's the end of the month and they have quota to fill, or they see a car (or something about that car) that strikes the cop as particularly intersting.
On interstates, I always slow down going over bridges and when I approach exits, truck weigh stations, or move into areas where there are changes in topography. If there are trees in the median, I won't drive as fast as I would in areas where you have unobstructed sight. I also always look in my rear view mirror when I pass an on-ramp. I have seen cops pull onto the interstate behind me many times and had to resort to delicate pulls of the e-brake to avoide drawing attention to the fact that I was speeding. That also helps if you drive past a cop. Worst thing to show them is brake lights.
I drive almost exactly the way you describe. But I'm not afraid to brake really hard if no one is behind me. For some reason, the cops don't pull me over for this. Maybe they aren't looking for the nose dive, or maybe they didn't.peg me those times.
Getting back to the criminal offense point, I really think this should change in the US. If people want safer roads, we need to focus on driverless cars, but also, driver training, special licensing classes, etc. Putting someone in jail for going 100 is too harsh indeed. The best thing anyone can do is to hire a lawyer and argue for any lesser crime, supervision, higher fines, driver school, etc.
Special licenses so drivers can drive faster is a dumb idea, speeding up to a point is just a civil infraction, however at 100mph, it should be considered criminal. Have you ever seen what happenes to a car doing 100 when it hits a car doing 70? That 100mph car will blow through the 70mph car like a hot knife through butter. Driver skill, vehicle capabilities, bla, bla, bla. I don't care if people speed when the road is open, but when there is other traffic on the road it's down right selfish. Speed absolutely kills, and put innocent people in danger because people think they are great drivers. In reality, **** happens, things break, people make mistakes. I'd much rather have those things happen at slower speed when you are out there sharing the road with me, my family and loved ones.
This is not Germany, we do not have the same driving habits as the krauts so a speedless highway would never work.
I don't think it makes sense to have blanket statements about speed calling it criminal. There's a difference between T-boning a car in the city at 100mph vs driving across the desert on a highway designed for 115mph speeds (and designed to land an aircraft on in case of emergency) when there's a divided highway when there's hardly anyone around, save for the other people on the road that are also driving 90+. It's not black and white.
It's all relative. I drive on the Autobahn in Germany all the time and it's a completely different situation than driving here in the US. It's no issue at all going 100+ on the Autobahn because people expect it and without a doubt are better drivers than what we have here. That being said I've taken my 911 to the century mark and beyond many times here in the US, but it tends to be more nerve wracking since not only are you dealing with the legal issue, we have way too many idiots out driving around.
I'm all for blanket statements when it comes to a public roads shared by everyone. I also don't care if people speed on those same road when they are out there by themselves. If speeding is so important to you, the answer is easy. Take it to a track
I've done 150+* on this road because I can only get up to 110 at the track
I suppose those testing land speed records in the distance are reckless as well.
Not really. It was just a Saturday and I didn't want to push the car past 6,000.
Out here daily triples are the norm, not the exception. We have 400 miles between us and the nearest major city. 80 & 85mph limits are common. So, we enjoy the space
. It sure beats living in the megalopolis for me.
Fun fact of the day, If you got caught 45kms (27 miles) over the speed limit here in Melbourne you'd potentially get:
- 12 months loss of licence
- get 8+ points of max 12 (they come back in 3 years)
- your car impounded for a month (3 impoundments and your car would be crushed regardless of the value)
- have to appear in court
- anywhere between 1,000-23,000 fine (the upper limit is when they give you a dangerous driving charge which is a criminal offence that can get you jail time)
- attend a $1,000 driving school course
- if you're convicted in court it goes on your driving record for 10 years
Anyway just thought I'd share that you'd be in a bigger world of pain in this country
I was going through Barstow at about 2:30 am ,and got caught on radar .I knew I was speeding ,mustang in fifth and tach over six grand ,when I saw the cops head lights way behind me I pulled over and waited.When he got there his face was red he was yelling "Do you know how fast you were going?" I shrugged my shoulders told him the speedo only went to 85mph.Then he tells me I got you on radar at 128 mph,I apologized and told him the car had all the H D stuff on it to go fast.I said I can't dispute the speed.He writes me up for over 100mph but no wreckless no arrest.Cost me $800 which I had to go there and pay it.Never saw the judge and I or 2 points on my license.
We have lots of open desert here in NV. You can drive for an hour and not see another car. This road cuts across from 95 to 395. No cars, no houses, no cell phone reception. I regularly drive over 100 on it. Always make sure the car is 100% and don't fock up because it will be a long time before someone comes along to help you!
You be careful my friend Spork! Even on flat roads, going that fast and hitting a sudden dip can send you sailing into the sand. And then you'd bleed to death and no one would find you until you eventually turn into a skeleton. Then, your Porsche would be left to rust away and become desert art. And we'd miss you man, so don't drive that fast, keep it at 35 mph and you'll live.
The best part of the Porsche experience for me is the acceleration. That pull you get in 2nd gear and running over 5500Rpm's to just under redline is intoxicating. Best part, I can experience it under the highway speed limit.
Distracted driving kills far more people every year than speeders. Should distracted driving be a criminal offense then? That's more dangerous than speeding.If so, I am sure you have been guilty of it in the past few days!
Criminal!!!! You share the roads with everyone else and you are making them less safe! Turn yourself in to the closest police station immediately!!!
It's like talking to people who think the solution to the concussion problem in the NFL is more padding. Smh
My solution: All cars should be made of the same material as Nerf *****, and max speed limit should be 3.5 mph. That, right there, would save more lives than ALL of the combined deaths due to guns, cancer, AIDS (is that still around?), Zika virus, plane crashes, Islamic radicals , murders, and slipping on banana peels. YW.
Next time somebody designs a universe, I want some input.
I never understood the speed limits in US, you have the infrastructure, you have the ability to replace cars far easier than other countries (e.g Greece) where taxes have skyrocketed. And you still drive in 5 lane highways at 60 mph. The highway in Greece is 2 or 3 lanes and you don't get pulled over unless you are doing 110mph. I can't imagine doing a 300 mile trip at 60mph!!!
My parents live 300 miles away, so it takes us 4 hours to get there. I could also take the high speed train and get there in 4 hours. There's a train that links a large city (Chicago) to a smaller City (St. Louis). They are rebuilding the track for even higher speed, so it takes 8 hours to get there at the moment, due to construction. When the track is completed, the targeted max speed for the train will be about 110mph. Lookout rest of the world, the US it OUT OF CONTROL!
This.
There is nowhere that I would go 100mph on public roads in North America. Our highways are not designed for it. Worse, the other drivers here are not trained to deal with it. I have my speed warning set for well under this, and lift (when safe, let's not go crazy here with absolutes) when it goes off.
There is a lot of fun to be had in 2nd and 3rd gear in these cars.
The US highway system was designed for "high speed," after the then president had a look at the Reichsautobahnen.
To your other point - the US drivers - I couldn't agree more. Certainly the weakest link in the system. They are truly horrible drivers.
I actually worked in a MOT legal branch, and worked with the road design group quite closely. They did not consider people driving at 100mph a critical assumption in designing divided access controlled highways. Full stop. When considering sight lines for on/off ramps, banking of curves, even the length of the ramps, that speed was not considered important. Thus, "our highways are not designed for it".
I can tell you I am not the one using alternative facts here.
Please, this is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not quibble about who killed who.
Not sure how the Ministry of Transport relates to CONUS.
So what max speed are highways designed for? Specifically, I-80, I-15. Because their limits are between 70mph and 80mph in most areas, even within cities. The design inputs appear to vary across different regions, unless current limits breach the engineering bounds? Or perhaps your generalization is just dumbing down a nuanced topic? Either way, I don't buy your haughty breakdown.
You must not have ever been to rural NV. Or west Texas. Or eastern Montana. Or central Utah. Or many other places out west.
See my previous posted photo. There are plenty of places with wide open roads and very little traffic with no on or off ramps and sometime no cross roads for 100 miles. I'm not talking about busy freeways or city roads. Hell, I-70 through southern Utah has an 80 MPH speed limit. People drive 100 MPH on it on a regular basis. Until recently, some Montana roads didn't have day time speed limits. Now it's 80 there too but you can still push it pretty hard and not get a ticket. If you are going way over 100 or there is traffic you'll get popped but if you are at 100 and the road is empty (which is quite often) then they will let you slide. You may get pulled over and just given a warning.
One thing you'll never hear from the overly normative thinkers:
Speed differential wrt safety is skewed in favor of speeding in modest amounts. Note how +10 is safer than 5 under avg speed.
There is no nuance.
1. Highways are designed around traffic and speed.
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2. North American highways aren't designed around traffic traveling the speed of 100 mph.
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"Our highways are not designed for it"
I didn't say "There is nowhere in North America you could drive 100mph and not crash into an 85 year old who last took a driving test in 1962 driving a k-car in the left lane."
I said the roads weren't designed for it.
In fact, it is probably safer to drive 100 mph on rural (read, middle of no-where) non-access controlled two lane roads where there is little chance of you rounding a bend only to find SUV's camped in all three lanes.
But...
You run the risk of hitting a rise, bump or frost heave that causes your car to become airborne BECAUSE THE ROAD WASN'T DESIGNED FOR IT. Or striking an animal or other debris on the roadway. That, of course, has a lot to do with highway design.
How many decreasing radius bends do you find on unrestricted Autobahn stretches? How many go through urban areas? All your chart proves is that you are safest going 75 mph (the average interstate speed being 70 mph) and not very safe going 100 mph, probably, again, BECAUSE THE ROAD WASN'T DESIGNED FOR IT.
Calling me names is about as poor of an argument as telling me my nationality makes my argument a non-starter. If only we could build a wall around the internet and get someone else to pay for it.
The autobahn is not any better road for driving 100 mph, or more, than many US highways. The unrestricted speed zones are only where deemed safe. When it approaches or goes through cities and towns the speed limit is reduced to similar to US. Germans obey the speed limit much better than Americans.
The difference is drivers. America is not ready for unrestricted roads, collectively we don't have the experience to do it safely.
I got a kick out of driving 150 mph in a C-Class AMG MB wagon. The GPS was almost necessary to know when turns were coming up.
I respectfully disagree with the first comment above for two reasons.
1) The autobahn is generally maintained much better than US highways and built to a much higher standard. Autobahn pavement is made with many more layers than US Interstates to resist becoming brittle under drastic weather change from season to season. Autobahns are acutally built to aircraft runway specs and are deignated with a pavement capacity numbers high enough to support landing transport aircraft, if needed.
2) Just about every stretch of autobahn has guardrails along both sides that would, at least most of the time, keep an out-of-control-car contained from going off pavement into a patch of trees or (even worse) crossing over into oncoming traffic. Compartively, here in the USA there seem to be very few guardrails. it's much more conceivable that a high-speed out of control car could end up smashing into a tree or in the face of oncoming traffic.
I definitely agree with the comment about drivers... That is the biggest hold-back to higher speeds in the USA.
There's no such thing as a "learners permit" in Germany, where your mom, dad or brother can teach you their bad habits. In Germany you must take a lot of driving theory classes, as well as practical driving hours in all types of scenarios (city/highway/day/night) with a certified instructor. I think it costs around $1500 for someone to get a drivers license in Germany.
Max speed =/= avg speed. US interstate highways, particularly those west of the Mississippi, are generally capable of handling 100mph speeds on the tail end of a distribution. It's posturing to translate this obvious sentiment to avg speed. You know it, I know it.
Exactly. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I drive over there all the time and routinely at high speed without any concerns(granted I'm very alert and aware). Better roads and better drivers.
I spent a year in Germany driving truck all over the country. Granted, it was in the 70's but even then this was true.
When I first got stationed there a bunch of us went into town (Kaiserslautern) to a local bar. Outside were a bunch of 50CC mopeds. When we went inside the place was filled with German bikers. I rode a Harley then (still do) so naturally started talking to these guys about their bikes. Turns out they were all riding the mopeds! When I asked why they told me that it is very expensive and takes a long time to get a driver's license in Germany. A license was not required to ride a moped so they all ride them until they get licensed.
I drove an International 4070 COE with a Detroit V12 and 10 speed Road Ranger. The truck would go 100 MPH easy because we pulled light weight 27' flatbed trailers. The military did not buy anything from the local economy but instead flew in all supplies. My job was to haul these supplies from Air Force bases to Army bases all over Germany. I drove on the 'bahn every day as well as lots of secondary roads. Like everything German, their driving on the 'bahn was highly disciplined. The Polizei drove 911's and BMW's and carried Uzi's! If you got a ticket you paid the fine on the spot to the Polizei.
They also drove like maniacs on the secondary roads. Very good drivers but not afraid to pass on a double yellow line. Beautiful country though and nice friendly people once you got away from the cities and bases. Great food at the roadside schnitzel stands. And some very good looking women!
Pretty strict here in Australia. 30Kmh over the limit is a $500.00 fin AND instant 3 months loss of license. 45Kmh over and its a $1k fine a six months loss - more than that, well, you better get a lawyer son, and you'd better get a good one!
Had a mate booked at 270Kmh in an 70Kmh zone - $4k fine AND loss of license for 3 years! In some states here they'll even confiscate your car as well! If its bad enough, like someone dies or similar, the car will be taken off you for good and you will go to jail - with very few questions asked along the way too...
Nanny/Police state...
Yes, the bigger issue here is the behavior of the drivers and how they respond.
On the open Autobahn, this can also happen, but it's less of an issue because of driver skill and behaviors.
A lot of folks in the U.S. claim that speed differential (the difference between someone driving fast vs. slow on the same road) is a big issue. People claim that it's just as dangerous or even more dangerous to drive too slowly, but I don't like this argument very much for many reasons.
For sure it's a problem on some roads. But truckers go ~85mph on the interstates where I am. Speed differential of +15mph in a highway setting with an escape route (shoulder or wide lanes) is a pretty standard situation though.
Out east in Virginia where I grew up there aren't many roads that have the layout, speed limit and traffic pattern that makes triple digits safe. Maybe on I-81 when it's deserted but I see where you're coming from given you live in the Southeast.
Having driven cross country a few times the regional variability of appropriate speed is high imo. That's really the point that is driving changes to speed limits nationwide, regardless of what the puritans might think.
The two points are independent imo & not necessarily mutually exclusive. Differential isn't good when it's big, same for idiots that spazz when they see someone bearing down on them in a different lane. At the same time, it's safer to go 5-10 over than 5 under assuming regular traffic pattern of +5 relative to the limit. The 'benefit' of going faster vs. slower rapidly dissipates as the speed differential goes beyond 10-15mph. That's my focus when driving in a spirited fashion: don't bear down on people going 40mph faster, don't worry about speed without traffic and just enjoy it.
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