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YOUR RESEARCHWhat''s actually creaking? Control arms
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retaining bolt may not ahve been fully torqued
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I suspect the retaining bolt may not ahve been fully torqued so allowed the bolt to play in the hole.
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I've definitely pinpointed creak, I'll change the rear arms at some point.
Set (100nm) as these also work by clamping the bush
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If you do get the tracking done make sure on the rear that the eccentric bolts get torqued up correctly after it is set (100Nm) as these also work by clamping the bush.
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The mount in the sub-frame should clamp to the outer faces of the bush and be torqued up (120Nm) with the suspension on zero deflection as if sitting on the ground, I use my trolley jack under the hub until weight just comes off the axle stand to achieve this.
Set (100nm) as these also work by clamping the bush
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If you do get the tracking done make sure on the rear that the eccentric bolts get torqued up correctly after it is set (100Nm) as these also work by clamping the bush.
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The mount in the sub-frame should clamp to the outer faces of the bush and be torqued up (120Nm) with the suspension on zero deflection as if sitting on the ground, I use my trolley jack under the hub until weight just comes off the axle stand to achieve this.
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I put my trolley Jack under the hub and torqued the retaining bolt though so I'm happy it's all good now.
My NSR control arm is creaking and I'm pretty sure I've pinpointed the creak with a stethoscope but I'm curious to what's actually happening and why it makes such a loud noise. I'm pretty sure it's not the ball joint but the bush where the concentric bolt is.
Is the rubber bush rotating inside its housing?
I'll have a proper look when I take the control arm off in a couple of weeks.
On my previous 996.1 the rubbers had dried out, I used some silicone lub spray in joints 👠they where find there after.
Worth a try if they look in good condition 👌
I'll try that thanks mate. I have can in the van. ðŸ˜
I've looked at other threads about this, I reckon the bolt is going to be rusted in that bush too and will need cutting out.
The rubber joints start to creak when the rubber becomes delaminated from either the inside or outside metal bush surrounding it. Lube is a temporary fix, but also good for pinpointing the source. Spray one joint, rock the car and repeat if the creak is still there to pinpoint the source.
Thanks mate. I've definitely pinpointed creak, I'll change the rear arms at some point. Just surprised how a bit of old rubber can make such a racket through the whole vehicle, sounds like a creaky old bed. 😆
Replaced all my control arms, top mounts, front tuning forks and rear toe links (basically everything with rubber in it). totally silent ride now. No substitute for fresh rubber bushes and they are tighter than old well used and time deteriorated rubber bushes so give a handling reward too.
Check out Spyder Performance on eBay (no personal links to them other than as a customer) for good but sensibly priced after market options.
What's the casting quality like compared with original. Im about to do the same thing and deciding between Meyle or Spyder. Which top mounts did you get?
I stuck Meyle control arms on the fronts and they're really nice, I was looking at Spyder a few days ago for the rear's as they're cheaper and look fine but think I'll go for Meyle again. I don't know what was put on mine but the control arms looked newish and shiny but unbranded and cheap and haven't lasted well, it certainly put me off buying cheap ebay ones.
What's the casting quality like compared with original. Im about to do the same thing and deciding between Meyle or Spyder. Which top mounts did you get?[/quote]
I stuck Meyle control arms on the fronts and they're really nice, I was looking at Spyder a few days ago for the rear's as they're cheaper and look fine but think I'll go for Meyle again. I don't know what was put on mine but the control arms looked newish and shiny but unbranded and cheap and haven't lasted well, it certainly put me off buying cheap ebay ones.[/quote]
Is it the rubber bushing that has failed or deteriorated quickly on the cheap ones or a different problem?
Remember cheap, unless you know the quality, is UFO = You fit often
I stuck Meyle control arms on the fronts and they're really nice, I was looking at Spyder a few days ago for the rear's as they're cheaper and look fine but think I'll go for Meyle again. I don't know what was put on mine but the control arms looked newish and shiny but unbranded and cheap and haven't lasted well, it certainly put me off buying cheap ebay ones.[/quote]
Is it the rubber bushing that has failed or deteriorated quickly on the cheap ones or a different problem?
Remember cheap, unless you know the quality, is UFO = You fit often[/quote]
Yeah I agree, I won't buy cheap. I haven't taken the rear control arms off yet to see what's happened. The rubber bushings on the fronts appeared to look ok, although I didn't inspect thoroughly, what had happened was the hole inside the bush had opened up which was rattling around on the subframe mounting bolts. Both sides too. But I've just found out my car has been tracked previously so I guess this led to faster failure of a cheap component.
I suspect the retaining bolt may not ahve been fully torqued so allowed the bolt to play in the hole. The mount in the sub-frame should clamp to the outer faces of the bush and be torqued up (120Nm) with the suspension on zero deflection as if sitting on the ground, I use my trolley jack under the hub until weight just comes off the axle stand to achieve this. If you do get the tracking done make sure on the rear that the eccentric bolts get torqued up correctly after it is set (100Nm) as these also work by clamping the bush. This wasn't done once on mine and I was getting a knock/creak/twang (not the 'snooker ball' knock of a tuning fork) as the bush moved in the mounting. It is difficult to get access to torque them with the wheels on.
Good info, yes you may be right about whether the bolt was torqued correctly especially as it's not doable without the right tools. I put my trolley Jack under the hub and torqued the retaining bolt though so I'm happy it's all good now. ðŸ‘
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