Anyone tempted by the new 911?

Turbo flat six. Reviews I read seem to suggest Porsche has another winner. Beautiful car, lots of torque and the turbo six apparently sounds like an air cooled 911. It is too too rich for me but if I had the money, a 911 s perhaps the 4s would nicely complement my, Boxster S. In a fantasy world of course.

Short answer is no. The 991 is a bigger car than I want or need. To each his or her own. And, I just got another CR, more track oriented. :dance:

Yes! I am obsessing over it. I've built about 4 configurations and saved them. I am going to get a 992 when they come out so not this 991.2. I don't like the sound at all but I really want to drive a Porsche as a daily driver. Which means C4/C4s for me. I will never get rid of my 981 BS..... That's a drivers car! The 911 would just be a beater commuter car. lol

The only 911 that ever tempts me to trade in my Cayman is an pre-964 model, but I'm able to resist it.

It does not tempt me. I think the 981 Boxster styling is much better than any 911 cabriolet. Period. And with the Spyder coming out, engine performance is roughly the same but handling goes to the 981. Also, +1 that I don't want a larger 911. Nothing beats zipping around in a 981. I feel much more immersed than in a 911. My $.02

I feel the same way. I cannot justify a new one but a used C4 would do very nicely as a winter car.

No. Too heavy. Too long. Too wide. Too fat. Motor in the wrong place. What's wrong with what I've got? Nuthin' 'cept the same issues that would no doubt arise in the new 911 (no spare tire, no dipstick, leather sanded to the point where it's hard to tell it really came from a cow, more weight than I want to lug around, etc.) Nope, I'll stick with the 981 (a 2015 CS).

Yes, I'm in........ Waiting on my local dealer to get some, I will order though. This time around I'm leasing not buying, on the advise of my friend who happens to be my SA. I want to see it in person, drive and get a feel for it.

In about 7-9 years I'll look for a 991 C2 with low miles with a MT. Them turbos...they don't do anything to me anymore.

A targa was always a fantasy for me , i guess its the best looking 911 (not including the gt's and turbos lol ) . A targa gts would be my choice

I'm sure it's an amazing car, and even better with the turbo. Still, I think the 981 is now closer to being what a 911 used to be and the 911 seems to have moved further upmarket, so I'd say it's still a 981 for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't get that. 1. The 911 has always been a 2+2. OTH, the 986, 987, and 981 have never been. They are entirely different body designs and engine placements going back to the 924. 2. The 911 has always been upmarket. It's never been cheap, always targeted at high incomes. In fact, that's why the 356, and its successor the 911, were not built in VW plants originally and Ferry Porsche wanted his own factories in Stuttgart. Hmm

My new Boxster GTS is only a few months old. I am not tempted by anything! It is so much more nicely appointed than a 911 that costs $20K more, and it performs at a very similar level. In addition, it has the engine where it is supposed to be in a sports car!

I'm very tempted by it . . . but it is out of my price range.

I really wanted a 911 when it was time to replace my M3. Kept looking until I realized that the one I really wanted, with the options I wanted, was in 'crazy money' territory. Even moved to looking for used (never bought used before). While we were at the dealer my wife said, looking at a Cayman; "how about this one, I love the way it looks". Test drive, done... Now that I've had my CS for a couple of months I do not think I will ever change to something bigger. My g, what a fun car. Now if the next Cayman/Boxster turns out to come only with 4 cyl., that could make me change my mind.

Not really. I actually regret that I didn't order a NA black edition 991 when I could, but I just wasn't ready. The first problem is that my flat-six experience should come with the fitting sound. Obviously I did not drive one of the new ones yet, or listened to one in person. But the soundclips are updated and the regular clips are terrible. The PSE clip is much better but I can't rule out error on Porsche's part. In any case if I must have the PSE just to get reasonable sound then combine those $3000 with the whatwasit $2000 that the base 911 got more expensive. And I do not want adaptive suspension which is now forced on you. And so far no white instruments. I could go on. Right now I'm more inclined to go all the way back to a 997 since I will not experience a new NA flat-six in my life anyway. And a 981 isn't out either.

There are several reasons I am tempted but highly doubt I can ever justify paying that much money for a second car, a new 911. I have some issues with with Boxster S some of which I knew before I bought the car and some that I discovered after owning it for three years. Not that I plan to sell it anytime soon. -First, where I live, use is severely limited. Perhaps half the year. Yeah, I can put snows and drive it in the winter but in NH, that does not make a lot of sense with a fabric roof car and RWD. The car sits in a garage for 5-6 months. I knew that before I bought the car. Most used Boxsters I see on the dealer's lot are low mileage cars, no more than 3-4k a year. -Top down on a sunny day, driving it is bliss. Top up, the blind spots are terrible and I feel claustrophobic. Plus for some strange reason, the ride seems much harsher with the top up. -Engine. The 3.4 L with PSE sounds great but I notice some annoyances. The hesitation at 3000 rpm being one. Always notice it. Second, the lack of any low end torque forces me to drive at higher rpms. And finally, the really tall gearing which also forces me to stay in a lower gear to get any power. I think that's it. The new 911 turbo six has a lot of low end torque from what I read. For a fixed roof car, you can also get a glass sunroof to let some light in so that it does not feel so claustrophobic. And perhaps with a C4, it can be driven year around. As I get older, it seems a shame to only be able to drive the car I really want to drive only six months of the year. The rest of the time I am driving a Volvo SUV. Maybe the more reasonable thing to do is to replace the Volvo with something like a 335xi or an S4 whuich would be half the price of a new C4.

I am also trolling used car sales sites for early 991s. Early 991s that are not "special" in some way took some deprecation that is nothing short of brutal. If I want more of a luxury barge I can be in an early 991 as cheap as in a cool 997. I don't want to be first penguin for a 991.2.

I thought that my 997S was a large car, especially compared to my prior 911, which was a 993 model. So now the 991 is bigger than a 997 and the 991.2 will now be powered by a turbo with its lag issue and performance degradation when it gets hot. On the plus side it should be well received by the typical 911 buyer who never tracks his car, since it will have more torque in the lower RPM range which is where the street driver spends almost all of his time. I also expect that Porsche engineering will somehow enhance the exhaust sound to provide a sound somewhat comparable to their NA models. Bottom line is that I see nothing in a 991.2 which would prompt me to write a check for $115K+, but I don't expect that I'm part of their target market.

Yes the 991.2 seriously tempted me to mortgage my soul to order a 991.1 while I still could.

People have driven the C4 all the time in the snow. Thats why its AWD. You seem to be a target for a Macan Turbo S. Twin Turbos. Instant torque. AWD. No need for snow tires unless you in the mountains. Huge Pano roof - much bigger than any 911. And it will eat your 981S for lunch on the street, and moreso in weather. You ought to go down and test drive a Turbo. Then see when a Turbo S comes out, which should be late winter. You just might never look back, particularly where you live. While a C4 is a possibility, in reality its a compromise simply because its too low. Unless the road is plowed, the 911 isn't going anywhere. But the Macan does.

The 991.2 looks like a much better value than the 991.1, it would be nice to have a 5-link car, and all that twin-turbo horsepower and torque would be nice, but for me it's kind of irrelevant, because I just can't justify spending that kind of money on a car. And I also have no need for a rear seat- my wife's Track Pack BMW already has one of those.

Not tempted one bit. I love my 2013 Boxter S but I drive my Toureg Diesel 5 times as much. The roads here in the Vegas area are not great for sports car driving and I get my vehicular excitement racing Porsche's on track. I'm thinking about selling the Boxter as it's really just a seldom used toy now.

Interesting how the current targa is, as you say, possibly the best looking 911. Interesting because historically almost all previous iterations of the targa were decidedly the worst looking 911s out there. Impressive what they've finally done with what had been such an ugly design!

What, my 911 has rear seats? I don't get the whole 911 is a GT thing. Yes, the 991 got bigger, so did the Cayman. Same interior, cockpit lay out across the whole range, same console, seats, pcm etc. So what makes the 911 a GT? The back seats? Really?

I think ita the same results at the cayenne when the lopped off two cylinder... Result eas lack luster ..at first the m3 had glowing hoopla..6 months later every car max had one for resale..

Regardless of whether you are or aren't tempted, I would recommend watching the "50 years of 911" video by Everydaydriver.com Everyday Driver Yes, I know it's $10 for the vimeo / download edition, but its' worth it. The film really highlights the heritage of the car and how it's evolved. The most interesting point is that the 911 has had a bit of a tick-tock cadence. The 964 introduced a lot of technology, but its was the 993 that fully integrated that into the car, returning the car to the 911 feel. Similarly, the 996 introduced us to the first modern 911, but it was the 997 that returned the car to more of the essence of what we expect from a 911. Looking at this, I'm now curious if the 991.2 has moved the car further away or more towards what we expect from the 911. On the face of it, the turbo motor is going to change the character of the car, though I wonder if whether that's a simplistic way of looking at it. Am I tempted? Of course I am! Of course, tempted doesn't mean that I have anywhere near enough money to buy one

I would have bought the Targa, but my wife loved the looks of the Cayman better. I'm glad I bought the Cayman, already had many 911's.

New 911 C2S or C4S 4 cylinder turbo is not for me. No desire for a 4S as a daily driver either. Good and bad about my commute is that seats never warm and windows do not defrost in 1500 foot ride to work. But I would grab a 991 GTS 6 speed if I could. Maybe next year a CPO one, nuff GTs for this year. My regular DDs are 05 ML500 or 2015 F350 Superduty. Superduty has supplemental electric heat. Start it up and 200 feet down the driveway heat is coming out. Sucks 13 mpg around town, tows at 11+mpg, and highway is well over 19 mpg and sometimes 20+. They are getting bigger. Both GT3 and GT4 are noticeably bigger when you sit in them. Looking at the *** of either says the same thing when following on the highway.

The bad thing for those wanting to buy a good used 911 is that the "unicorn" effect is in play for all 911's except the 996's (even there, the C4S, GT3 and Turbo models are appreciating quickly). The 997.2 models onward appear to stop depreciating after about 3 years. Can't find any 997.2 (2009 onward) for under $50k, and even the 997.1's are mostly upward of $40k, except the very earliest 2005 models which had warmed-over M96 engines with the ballistic IMS's, which are still in the mid-high $30's even with high mileage.

It's because of the size, weight and isolation of modern 911's that don't go by the name GT3. And relative luxury, with power everything. A base 911 with no options may be purer, but the value proposition versus a well-equipped Cayman S becomes questionable because the performance is so similar. The new Carrera with more power and the upcoming turbo-4-only Cayman which will have LESS power will probably put some distance back between the cars. I only hope they reduce the Cayman price to go with the reduced performance, otherwise a used 981.1 will be a better deal.

997.2s are just rare because they were made when the banks crashed our economy, and only for a few years. It is certainly odd that early 991s can be had for pretty much the same money. Not because the 991 is so much better (to us), but because the 991 is flashier, especially the interior, and you'd think casual buyers would always opt for the 991 when seeing cars with automatic transmissions in the dealer showroom or lot.