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YOUR RESEARCH997 hard top fit on a 996?
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Use type mounts in the internet i couldn’t find any
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Recently when I was trying to found some used old type mounts in the internet I couldn’t find any but I looks that these mounts have been remanufactured by some company called “Daytona” in a claimed improved version from mil-grade aluminum alloy and are now sold at a similar price like the discontinued cast iron original mounts.
Leading evidence: 'Use type mounts in the internet i couldn’t find any' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'now' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace early' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
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The problem is now that the old twisted pin type mounts (part numbers 996.561.653.03 and 996.561.654.03) seem to be discontinued and not available from Porsche dealers anymore.
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There are kits to change the early to the improved, less likely to rattle/squeak, screw type.
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Some people claim that Porsche changed them to the screw type because of problems but I had this type of mounts on my 996 C4 convertible and never any problems with them which makes my rather suspect that the true reason for changing the mount and locks is to make it impossible to fit 996 hardtop on 997 convertibles and buying expensive new hardtops instead or at least have to convert them with a lot of effort to the newer screw type pins…
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Some people claim that Porsche changed them to the screw type because of problems but I had this type of mounts on my 996 C4 convertible and never any problems with them which makes my rather suspect that the true reason for changing the mount and locks is to make it impossible to fit 996 hardtop on 997 convertibles and buying expensive new hardtops instead or at least have to convert them with a lot of effort to the newer screw type pins…
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Recently when I was trying to found some used old type mounts in the internet I couldn’t find any but I looks that these mounts have been remanufactured by some company called “Daytona” in a claimed improved version from mil-grade aluminum alloy and are now sold at a similar price like the discontinued cast iron original mounts.
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The problem is now that the old twisted pin type mounts (part numbers 996.561.653.03 and 996.561.654.03) seem to be discontinued and not available from Porsche dealers anymore.
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Hello,
I'm looking for a hardtop for my 1999 911 cabriolet. so far all I have found is a 2005 that's the right color (Black). however, I'm skeptical that it will fit my 1999.
does anyone know if they are compatible?
the top is 400 miles away, so I don't want to make the drive without knowing for sure.
How to retrofit a 996 hardtop to fit a 997 - Rennlist Discussion Forums
Follow the link to Rennlist. If a 996 hard top can be fitted to a 997 I would imagine the reverse is possible as well. If you are looking for a 'drive there and snap on' hard top you should probably stay with a 996 type. If you can get it back in a van or truck, then do the retrofit, it might be a good deal. You might contact the person on Rennlist that posted the comment in the link for more info.
BTW, it is always helpful to post your location. You might get leads for something correct that is closer.
hard top porsche 1999 | eBay
Ebay has a bunch and they say fits 1999-2005 911's. You should check with the dealer and if the 2005 997 top is a direct fit, then there is your answer.
The hard tops are the same all will fit.
The front mount lever/clip/hooks are all the same.
The rear "pins" can be bayonet (early) or screw (late, tighten to 37 ftlbs). There are kits to change the early to the improved, less likely to rattle/squeak, screw type.
Find out which are on the top you are looking at and make sure that your car has the correct mounts. If not decide which way you want to go and buy the parts to convert. If change is needed I would lean toward the screw type rear "pins".
Hi,
I have been reading a lot here about 996 hardtop conversion to 997 and appreciated the helpful information there.
From what I have learned the easiest / most cost efficient way to mount an older style 996 (twist pin type) hardtop would be to just install the matching twist pin-type mounts.
Some people claim that Porsche changed them to the screw type because of problems but I had this type of mounts on my 996 C4 convertible and never any problems with them which makes my rather suspect that the true reason for changing the mount and locks is to make it impossible to fit 996 hardtop on 997 convertibles and buying expensive new hardtops instead or at least have to convert them with a lot of effort to the newer screw type pins…
The problem is now that the old twisted pin type mounts (part numbers 996.561.653.03 and 996.561.654.03) seem to be discontinued and not available from Porsche dealers anymore. The reason again would probably be that Porsche has not interested in people just buying the old type mounts and easily putting 996 hardtops on 997 convertibles that way…
Recently when I was trying to found some used old type mounts in the internet I couldn’t find any but I looks that these mounts have been remanufactured by some company called “Daytona” in a claimed improved version from mil-grade aluminum alloy and are now sold at a similar price like the discontinued cast iron original mounts.
This looks kind of interesting to me and could be a much cheaper solution and less effort than to convert the hardtop itself and later to have to readjust it completely.
Has anyone tried this part yet / any experiences?
You can find them here:
Porsche 996 to 997 Hardtop Conversion Retrofit Install Adaptor Adapter Mounts | eBay
or look for item No. “2717610954672” or “996 hardtop retrofit” on ebay
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