981: Michelin Pilot Super Sports - N rated? - Page 3 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

As per subject. New tyres time, would love to try out PSS on my 981 Boxster. Does anyone know if they are available in N-specification?

I'm pretty sure they're not (yet?). But I'd love to be corrected if that's no longer the case. S

I should say I am running 20" wheels. I've checked the Michelin site and the correct fitments are listed (F: 235/35/20 R: 265/35/20) but it makes no reference to the magic N rating.

Fairly sure that they're not available in those sizes.

I think PSS only N rated for Carrera GT.

PSS also N rated for Panamera

who gives a s t I run PSS who wouldn't ? cheaper than PS2 and last longer and are far safer in the wet while being far faster in the dry.

mrdemon said: who gives a s t I run PSS who wouldn't ? cheaper than PS2 and last longer and are far safer in the wet while being far faster in the dry. Oh dont get me wrong I wasnt saying dont fit them. I couldnt give a rats ass if OPC xxxxxx tell me they cant fit non N rated. I just took my RS elsewhere paid less and got PSS fitted.

May I respectfully remind you this is Treasonably punishable--NOT on N list.I have fitted Falken 453,s and duly await That Knock on the door---I will resist!!!!

No point turning this into another discussion about the N-rating. Thanks chaps.

I am having new 20" P zeros fitted to my 981 Cayman tomorrow. I asked about Mich N rated...they said....and I couldn't belive this...only the front tyres are available as N rated on Mich!!!! weird, hey? Anyway, since I covered 30K on my current P Zeros, I am having another set of those fitted.

Not that weird if the front fitment is shared with, say, the 911 but not the rear. A pain though, all the same. I read earlier that the Cayman and Boxster in GTS trim are fitted with Goodyear Eagle F1s. Did you consider those? ETA: What, sorry, 30k miles?! On one set? My car has done just over 10k... Edited by Mutt on Wednesday 7th May 22:52

Mutt said: Not that weird if the front fitment is shared with, say, the 911 but not the rear. A pain though, all the same. I read earlier that the Cayman and Boxster in GTS trim are fitted with Goodyear Eagle F1s. Did you consider those? ETA: What, sorry, 30k miles?! On one set? My car has done just over 10k... Edited by Mutt on Wednesday 7th May 22:52 Yes....30K on one set. Is that weird?!

I guess not if you are doing the commute. Like I said, I managed just over 10k and the rears are shot, fronts not looking too tidy. But then I only ever use the car for fun

Mutt said: I guess not if you are doing the commute. Like I said, I managed just over 10k and the rears are shot, fronts not looking too tidy. But then I only ever use the car for fun It's my only car. I use it for business as well as pleasure. I don't hang around, but try to be quite smooth when driving. Had the new P Zeros popped on today...Brakes are 30% worn on front and 20% on rear. OPC was impressed!

Got the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric N0 fitted to my Boxster which are ok.....but again ike the PSS the Asymmetric 2 is out which is apparently much better but not N rated Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 9th May 06:54

Yes, the PSS would be my first choice, but I can't really complain about the overall performance of the P Zeros......best wear rate I've had from any tyre!

I need to replace mine shall I just get PSS fitted? The OPC has told me it will invalidate warranty!

Is there an issue with Porsche warranty with N-spec Goodyears on the front & N-spec Bridgestones on the rear Eg mixing brands?

mc_blue said: I need to replace mine shall I just get PSS fitted? The OPC has told me it will invalidate warranty! The warranty requires N-rated tyres to be fitted. Your OPC may overlook this when you try and make a claim. They might not. Taking out a warranty and then deliberately contradicting the requirements of that warranty is somewhat risky!

sidicks said: The warranty requires N-rated tyres to be fitted. As per my post above, what about mixing brands? N-spec all round but different brands front and back?

Sarnie said: As per my post above, what about mixing brands? N-spec all round but different brands front and back? Laughably, this is probably ok.

sidicks said: Laughably, this is probably ok. I currently have Goodyears all round but the rears are shot, so ordered Bridgestones in N-spec. The front don't need changing so I'm not buying a full set unnecessarily!

It definitely won't be ok to mix brands. Don't forget the N number is the iteration of that particular tyre, so a new model Michelin at N0 could be a more modern up to date tyre than an N6 Bridgestone (and vice versa). Given that N numbers must match all the way around the car I can't see how on earth anyone would think it's ok to mix brands just because they had the same N numbers.

Sarnie said: I currently have Goodyears all round but the rears are shot, so ordered Bridgestones in N-spec. The front don't need changing so I'm not buying a full set unnecessarily! While it wasn't on a performance car several years back I replaced the rear tyres on my wifes BMW. The version of Bridgestones that it came on were no longer available so I put on a pair of the version that Bridgestone had replaced them with. It was like driving a car with a flexible joint in it, we persevered with them for 500 miles plus to see if it would improve. It didn't and the fronts had to be changed for the same tyre even though they had 6mm left on them. Hope you don't have a similar problem.

J12KJR said: While it wasn't on a performance car several years back I replaced the rear tyres on my wifes BMW. The version of Bridgestones that it came on were no longer available so I put on a pair of the version that Bridgestone had replaced them with. It was like driving a car with a flexible joint in it, we persevered with them for 500 miles plus to see if it would improve. It didn't and the fronts had to be changed for the same tyre even though they had 6mm left on them. Hope you don't have a similar problem. I never had a problem on my Gallardo, my question was more around whether Porsche would kick up a fuss over a warranty claim given the different brands even though they'd all be the right sizes and N0 spec all round.......rears are always going to wear out quicker on a RWD car, surely they don't expect you to buy a full set every time the rears need changing but the fronts are ok??

Sarnie said: I currently have Goodyears all round but the rears are shot, so ordered Bridgestones in N-spec. The front don't need changing so I'm not buying a full set unnecessarily! I do find it odd you would do this, the goodyear is a great tyre, now you just have unmatching tyres.

Sarnie said: I never had a problem on my Gallardo, my question was more around whether Porsche would kick up a fuss over a warranty claim given the different brands even though they'd all be the right sizes and N0 spec all round.......rears are always going to wear out quicker on a RWD car, surely they don't expect you to buy a full set every time the rears need changing but the fronts are ok?? The thought process was to show that it is possible to get some very unwanted side effects from having different tyres even from the same manufacturer. My Leon FR daily driver exhibited some awful snap breakaway when I fitted Goodyear Eagles on the front to replace the Bridgestones while Bridgestones were on the rear. I'm glad you didn't have problems with your Gallardo but the point is you can if you are not lucky. With regard to the warranty I would suggest it will depend on how observant your dealer is when dealing with a claim. If they want to get out of a claim then non approved tyres could be enough. I would be as worried about unwanted driving characteristics on a your car as anything else.

mrdemon said: Sarnie said: I currently have Goodyears all round but the rears are shot, so ordered Bridgestones in N-spec. The front don't need changing so I'm not buying a full set unnecessarily! I do find it odd you would do this, the goodyear is a great tyre, now you just have unmatching tyres. I have to agree. The Goodyears are a significantly better tyre than the Bridgestones - why mix them up?

Trev450 said: I have to agree. The Goodyears are a significantly better tyre than the Bridgestones - why mix them up? Because I've never liked Goodyears and the RE050's have been decent on other cars in the past. I'll be replacing the front Goodyears in the coming months no doubt.

Sarnie said: Trev450 said: I have to agree. The Goodyears are a significantly better tyre than the Bridgestones - why mix them up? Because I've never liked Goodyears and the RE050's have been decent on other cars in the past. I'll be replacing the front Goodyears in the coming months no doubt. If you prefer the Bridgestones then all well and good.

fronts will do twice the miles,if not more not a fan of the Bridgestone myself.

Mutt said: I read earlier that the Cayman and Boxster in GTS trim are fitted with Goodyear Eagle F1s. Did you consider those? They can be fitted with F1s, but only as much as any other tire Porsche uses. My Cayman GTS came with PZeroes. It really depends on what officiated tires (Bridgestone, Goodyear, Pirelli) are at the factory for fitment -- it's that simple. Michelin PSS should have N rated version for the 911 and Boxster/Cayman in "late 2015" from what I've heard.

Just fitted PSS to my wife's C4s, previously set was PS. One word of caution - they perform fantastically, but the ride feels like the sidewalls are stiffer, and tthey are surprisingly noisy at around 50/60. It is an odd thrum. Had the set checked and all seems fine. But other posters have noticed they are noisier than the DB ratings suggest.

FrankCayman said: I am having new 20" P zeros fitted to my 981 Cayman tomorrow. I asked about Mich N rated...they said....and I couldn't belive this...only the front tyres are available as N rated on Mich!!!! weird, hey? Anyway, since I covered 30K on my current P Zeros, I am having another set of those fitted. How do you find the P-Zero's compared to the others, I ask as my P-Zero shod CS is six years old in the spring and it's still on its original fronts I'am planning to replace all four tyres, I find the Pirelli's pretty good but I've not driven on the other brands.

anonymous said: [redacted] My thoughts too. My tyres will all be OEM sizes and N0 spec, just Goodyear upfront and Bridgestone at the rear....

anonymous said: [redacted] Because I want to keep them N-spec for the warranty on my car and also because I'll be changing the Goodyears upfront for Bridgestone's late spring/early summer anyway.....could of just bought Goodyears for the rear but I really don't like them....

Sarnie said: could of just bought Goodyears for the rear but I really don't like them.... Curious, what don't you like? We've got second set of Goodyear on the back & originals on the front and more than happy, albeit without direct comparison to an alternative.

Klippie said: How do you find the P-Zero's compared to the others, I ask as my P-Zero shod CS is six years old in the spring and it's still on its original fronts I'am planning to replace all four tyres, I find the Pirelli's pretty good but I've not driven on the other brands. From the brands I've had on various 987/981 I would put in this order with best at the top (all are Porsche approved N rated, because my cars are new and under warranty). 1st Michelin Pilot Sports Joint second P zero and Contis 3rd and utter rubbish Bridgestone Potenza RE050A....no good in wet or dry...crap

I'm quite keen on trying the PSS on the 987 but I'm quite impressed with the Bridgestone. Plenty of grip in low temps and heavy rain.

If you are impressed with the Bridgestones you will be blown away by the MPSS.