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Does anyone on here own the 997.2 gt3 Riviera blue car sold / advertised a number of years back by Richard Grace Cars?

Or the car sold by PEARCE&DALE automotive.

Or the one that was sold by Porsche Glasgow. The ex press car.

GT4RS said: Or the car sold by PEARCE&DALE automotive. That was mine - went to a Collector I believe. The one at RG also did I think.

I think there is only two in this country. Phil Morrison has one

IbanezDan said: I think there is only two in this country. Phil Morrison has one Thanks, from what I have worked out there’s 3. Two I listed above and the press car, I’m not sure if that Phil Morrison owns one of these or there mentioned may be another.

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This was mine - specced and owned from new. Jonny’s came from a friend of his who bought from new I think and iirc Phil’s was bought and then sold and brought again by him. 3 delivered out of the 130 were RB plus the Press Car.

jonny finance said: Beautiful, isn’t that the car which was sold by Richard Grace, or is this a different car?

alscar said: This was mine - specced and owned from new. Jonny’s came from a friend of his who bought from new I think and iirc Phil’s was bought and then sold and brought again by him. 3 delivered out of the 130 were RB plus the Press Car. Stunning Thank you for confirming, was the press car the one sold on by porsche Glasgow?

[quote=GT4RS] Beautiful, isn’t that the car which was sold by Richard Grace, or is this a different car? [/quote Jonny’s was the RG car. Less desirable than mine as didn’t have the black wheel option

alscar said: GT4RS said: Beautiful, isn’t that the car which was sold by Richard Grace, or is this a different car? [/quote Jonny’s was the RG car. Less desirable than mine as didn’t have the black wheel option Do you know who owns Jonnys car now?

GT4RS said: Stunning Thank you for confirming, was the press car the one sold on by porsche Glasgow? No idea but somewhat more miles / different condition / not unicorn version to the other 2 anyway.

GT4RS said: Do you know who owns Jonnys car now? As I said earlier it’s in a collection I believe. Why all the interest now - at the time you thought both were too expensive ?!

alscar said: GT4RS said: Do you know who owns Jonnys car now? As I said earlier it’s in a collection I believe. Why all the interest now - at the time you thought both were too expensive ?! Thanks for the reply, if anyone knows of its location please send me a PM.

alscar said: As I said earlier it’s in a collection I believe. Why all the interest now - at the time you thought both were too expensive ?! Ah yes.. now I remember Mine was too expensive also. Well, it sold and I bought it back a second time, only to foolishly sell again (for an even higher price.) I know mine is now in a collection ‘tomb’ and the owner wouldn’t sell - even for £150k Theses type of cars only come up for sale one in a blue moon. If it’s available the price becomes very much secondary..

jonny finance said: alscar said: As I said earlier it’s in a collection I believe. Why all the interest now - at the time you thought both were too expensive ?! Ah yes.. now I remember Mine was too expensive also. Well, it sold and I bought it back a second time, only to foolishly sell again (for an even higher price.) I know mine is now in a collection ‘tomb’ and the owner wouldn’t sell - even for £150k Theses type of cars only come up for sale one in a blue moon. If it’s available the price becomes very much secondary.. Why on earth did you sell it a second time 🤦🏼‍♂️

jonny finance said: Ah yes.. now I remember Mine was too expensive also. Well, it sold and I bought it back a second time, only to foolishly sell again (for an even higher price.) I know mine is now in a collection ‘tomb’ and the owner wouldn’t sell - even for £150k Theses type of cars only come up for sale one in a blue moon. If it’s available the price becomes very much secondary.. If only you had bought mine Jonny - you would have 2/3rds of the market under control !

[url] |https://thumbsnap.com/EvfcSeJK[/url Riviera Stitching and Carbon overload wins Al

RB is indeed a fabulous colour. Here’s my Exige in it. Sold as didn’t gel with it. One of my Astons was also similar colour - Elwood Blue. Think I’ve done with blue now though.

jonny finance][url said: |https://thumbsnap.com/EvfcSeJK[/url Riviera Stitching and Carbon overload wins Al Maybe - do I get extra marks for the double wrapped Alcantara steering wheel - as discussed with Andreas personally ?!

GT4RS said: Stunning Thank you for confirming, was the press car the one sold on by porsche Glasgow? Yes it was - https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/p... Phil Morrison has some pics of his on his website, and some videos on his youtube channel - https://www.driftworks.com/blog/garage/porsche-911...

thegreenhell said: GT4RS said: Stunning Thank you for confirming, was the press car the one sold on by porsche Glasgow? Yes it was - https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/p... Phil Morrison has some pics of his on his website, and some videos on his youtube channel - https://www.driftworks.com/blog/garage/porsche-911... Thanks Greenhell! So that’s 3 definitely identified, I wonder what happened to the 4th car.

alscar said: This was mine - specced and owned from new. Jonny’s came from a friend of his who bought from new I think and iirc Phil’s was bought and then sold and brought again by him. I bought Phil's car from him, kept it for 5.5 years & sold it back to him during the first lockdown.

nxi20 said: alscar said: This was mine - specced and owned from new. Jonny’s came from a friend of his who bought from new I think and iirc Phil’s was bought and then sold and brought again by him. I bought Phil's car from him, kept it for 5.5 years & sold it back to him during the first lockdown. Nxi20 Was yours / Phil’s the Glasgow press car?

There was also one local to me in Horsham Sussex a few years ago. The chap owns a few RUF 911s too. Sold the RB 997 3 years ago but not sure who to.

GT4RS said: Nxi20 Was yours / Phil’s the Glasgow press car? Pretty sure it wasn't that car. AIUI, there are 4 Riviera cars; 2 steel & 2 PCCB - mine was a steel car and the press cars are usually PCCB. ETA: Originally supplied by mid-Sussex on 9/10/10. First service stamp in the book was 9/1/12 @ 10,710 at OPC Swindon, so definitely not the press car I'd say. Edited by nxi20 on Saturday 27th May 11:24

Phil Morrison's will be up for sale tomorrow on PH - 140k

Bargain........ https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs33Crws-NA/?igshid=MT... You'd have to be crackers to pay that but each to their own.

ImbackYo said: Bargain........ https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs33Crws-NA/?igshid=MT... You'd have to be crackers to pay that but each to their own. Amazing that, I asked where the blue ones are and one pops up for sale a few days after for £140k 🤣

I love it, but if there’s 4 it’s twice as exclusive as I originally thought. I’ll keep my white one that was priced considerably less and superb history😃

IbanezDan said: I love it, but if there’s 4 it’s twice as exclusive as I originally thought. I’ll keep my white one that was priced considerably less and superb history?? Which white car do you own ?

Now is your chance Few years ago last RB perfect low mile one advertised and sold circa £125k Today one finally comes to market £140k Wait another few years and it will be £200k Get the cheque book out

GT4RS said: IbanezDan said: I love it, but if there’s 4 it’s twice as exclusive as I originally thought. I’ll keep my white one that was priced considerably less and superb history?? Which white car do you own ? My .2 Clubsport with lots of extras and Porsche warranty until Dec 2025 😃

jonny finance said: Now is your chance Few years ago last RB perfect low mile one advertised and sold circa £125k Today one finally comes to market £140k Wait another few years and it will be £200k Get the cheque book out I would be Viewing if I didn’t already have mine. It’s not a huge premium for something so exclusive.

jonny finance said: Now is your chance Few years ago last RB perfect low mile one advertised and sold circa £125k Today one finally comes to market £140k Wait another few years and it will be £200k Get the cheque book out Get it bought jonny finance, if your man maths are right you have 60k profit in it.

IbanezDan said: GT4RS said: IbanezDan said: I love it, but if there’s 4 it’s twice as exclusive as I originally thought. I’ll keep my white one that was priced considerably less and superb history?? Which white car do you own ? My .2 Clubsport with lots of extras and Porsche warranty until Dec 2025 ?? Looks a beauty. Something about the earlier 911 gt cars in Carrara white, it shows the lines perfectly.

jonny finance][url said: |https://thumbsnap.com/EvfcSeJK[/url Riviera Stitching and Carbon overload wins Al Riviera is a real killer on the 7.2 GT3. Well done!

GT4RS said: jonny finance said: Now is your chance Few years ago last RB perfect low mile one advertised and sold circa £125k Today one finally comes to market £140k Wait another few years and it will be £200k Get the cheque book out Get it bought jonny finance, if your man maths are right you have 60k profit in it. He won't, because it won't be 200k. 140k in a market where big ticket items requiring finance are getting more expensive by the quarter? Have a word.

ImbackYo said: Bargain........ https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs33Crws-NA/?igshid=MT... You'd have to be crackers to pay that but each to their own. Not sure a bargain and not a “ holy grail “ but they still look good !

GT4RS said: Amazing that, I asked where the blue ones are and one pops up for sale a few days after for £140k ?? Indeed - any other colour you want ?!

IbanezDan said: My .2 Clubsport with lots of extras and Porsche warranty until Dec 2025 ?? White still looks great though. The RB version with only 4 out of the 130 UK production still pretty exclusive though !

alscar said: GT4RS said: Amazing that, I asked where the blue ones are and one pops up for sale a few days after for £140k ?? Indeed - any other colour you want ?! I would happily buy on condition and as long as the price reflects the current market. I’ve never been one to rush, let’s see what becomes available, I’m going to go up and look at the black car a jzm but concerned it doesn’t have lift. Ideally the car would have buckets and lift as a minimum.

GT4RS said: I would happily buy on condition and as long as the price reflects the current market. I’ve never been one to rush, let’s see what becomes available, I’m going to go up and look at the black car a jzm but concerned it doesn’t have lift. Ideally the car would have buckets and lift as a minimum. I think your stumbling block might well be the “ price reflects the current market “ bit as everyone will have their own view of that. I had to chuckle at the “ not to rush “ bit too - how many years have you been looking ? That black one looks good but as you say no lift ( which I certainly needed to use a fair bit ) and no idea of how many owners previously but a low mileage obvs. The spec is also “ pretty basic “ ie the options list was left well alone.

GT4RS said: Looks a beauty. Something about the earlier 911 gt cars in Carrara white, it shows the lines perfectly. Thanks - originally I was looking for anything but white as I have had so many white cars... But after seeing multiple black/silver and a couple reds it stuck out the most to me. Plus, it was the best condition/original car I could find which was worth more to me than a rare colour.

alscar said: I think your stumbling block might well be the “ price reflects the current market “ bit as everyone will have their own view of that. I had to chuckle at the “ not to rush “ bit too - how many years have you been looking ? That black one looks good but as you say no lift ( which I certainly needed to use a fair bit ) and no idea of how many owners previously but a low mileage obvs. The spec is also “ pretty basic “ ie the options list was left well alone. Also, what was the registration/spec and vin of your RB car? Feel free to share via PM if you can? Its an extra one on the list - three more added today...

IbanezDan said: Also, what was the registration/spec and vin of your RB car? Feel free to share via PM if you can? Its an extra one on the list - three more added today... Mine was on a private plate from new GT03 xxx when sold back which I retained. Chassis number ended 1082.

alscar said: IbanezDan said: Also, what was the registration/spec and vin of your RB car? Feel free to share via PM if you can? Its an extra one on the list - three more added today... Mine was on a private plate from new GT03 xxx when sold back which I retained. Chassis number ended 1082. Thanks, do you know what plate it ended up on after? I think I found the advert for your old car on the PearceandDale site but obviously not registration details on there.

IbanezDan said: Thanks, do you know what plate it ended up on after? I think I found the advert for your old car on the PearceandDale site but obviously not registration details on there. Would need to look through old road tax refunds as I think Pearce and Dale put my plate on retention for me at the time.

alscar said: IbanezDan said: Thanks, do you know what plate it ended up on after? I think I found the advert for your old car on the PearceandDale site but obviously not registration details on there. Would need to look through old road tax refunds as I think Pearce and Dale put my plate on retention for me at the time. If you manage to find out drop me a PM Assume VIN would have been: WP0ZZZ99ZA(or B)S781082 (1082 would have been quite a late car which is odd as there are some 60 plate cars that are lower VIN but denoted B in the VIN.

IbanezDan said: If you manage to find out drop me a PM Assume VIN would have been: WP0ZZZ99ZA(or B)S781082 (1082 would have been quite a late car which is odd as there are some 60 plate cars that are lower VIN but denoted B in the VIN. Car was first registered 26/02/2010. Denoted A in the vin.

alscar said: IbanezDan said: If you manage to find out drop me a PM Assume VIN would have been: WP0ZZZ99XXXXX2 (1082 would have been quite a late car which is odd as there are some 60 plate cars that are lower VIN but denoted B in the VIN. Car was first registered 26/02/2010. Denoted A in the vin. Thanks! Ill revise

I see the modified 40k miles Riviera blue is now live for sale. I see he mentions 3 not 4 cars, no idea which car this is for sale as it has a blue cage.

GT4RS said: I see the modified 40k miles Riviera blue is now live for sale. I see he mentions 3 not 4 cars, no idea which car this is for sale as it has a blue cage. He also mentions his is a holy grail which it isn’t. It’s modified ( lightly ) and not exactly one owner from new with also a fair mileage on it. There are 3 production cars and one press car so 4 in total. 2 had steels ( mine was one of them ) don’t know offhand what Jonny’s had. My cage was black as I think the press cars was but I know some opted for blue. Not for me to say but I think £140k is on the high side but who knows when the next RB one will come up for sale , even assuming it does.

alscar said: GT4RS said: I see the modified 40k miles Riviera blue is now live for sale. I see he mentions 3 not 4 cars, no idea which car this is for sale as it has a blue cage. He also mentions his is a holy grail which it isn’t. It’s modified ( lightly ) and not exactly one owner from new with also a fair mileage on it. There are 3 production cars and one press car so 4 in total. 2 had steels ( mine was one of them ) don’t know offhand what Jonny’s had. My cage was black as I think the press cars was but I know some opted for blue. Not for me to say but I think £140k is on the high side but who knows when the next RB one will come up for sale , even assuming it does. The Richard Grace Cars car had steels, but a black cage. When they had it for sale it looked immaculate and had around 11k miles. If that’s the same car (hopefully not) it’s been modded, cage replaced or painted, tracked / drifted and used in the snow / salt looking at its current owners instagram. Either way it’s a lovely colour and interesting price.

GT4RS said: The Richard Grace Cars car had steels, but a black cage. When they had it for sale it looked immaculate and had around 11k miles. If that’s the same car (hopefully not) it’s been modded, cage replaced or painted, tracked / drifted and used in the snow / salt looking at its current owners instagram. Either way it’s a lovely colour and interesting price. The RG car was Jonny’s and knowing him it would have been absolutely immaculate with that mileage. Mine when it was sold had 8000 miles. Phil’s car is not the same car. There is a pic somewhere with mine and Jonnys together at Althorp when the previous owner had his. I still miss mine but had a large photo poster made of it which remains in my garage !

Colour is lovely but car is £20k more than many other cars with lower owners, mileage and modifications. I have been looking for a GT3 for a few months and the prices confuse me. Visited JZM and had a good chat with Russ and a good look at the 3 997 GT3s in stock. The white one had the best spec and has some nice mods, the black one was basic, very low miles and not sure I liked it in black. The red one was again basic spec but not sure about red from a resale perspective? RPM had a blue one that has just sold and based on this Riviera Blue one it seems like it was a bit of a bargain as only 1 owner from new? Will keep looking. Maybe the right one at the right price will turn up. N

donutskidmark said: Car looks the business- great spec….. BUT - personally I think being the 9th owner would put a lot of potential buyers off Agree, that may be seen to stigmatise it. Also, assuming these cars are now garage queen ‘toys’, rather than ‘track hacks’, I would expect it to have PCCBs to be the ‘ultimate’ spec. Of course, these could be retro-fitted, at a cost, but would be brand new, so last the life of the car.

GT4RS said: I think this will go down to how deep 1PTS pockets are. Jonny finance are you tempted to have a bid? I know you thought the modified one was a good buy at its original asking price of £140k? Hi GT4 RS. I’d honestly love it back and know DK have hardly driven it since I sold plus looked after faultlessly with service. Afraid I’m in the skint club - again !

125 +fees now... 10 hours to go...

My prediction it will “make” £140k plus……

If the new owner stumbles across this thread, I have all sorts of details and info on the car, knowing every mm I also have more photos of it (inc the obscure) than my children ???? Edited by jonny finance on Wednesday 20th September 10:07

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jonny finance said: If the new owner stumbles across this thread, I have all sorts of details and info on the car, knowing every mm I also have more photos of it (inc the obscure) than my children ???? Edited by jonny finance on Wednesday 20th September 10:07 Photos are making me drool. Why do some cars have a black centre painted steering wheel and some have an anthracite grey? I like the black..

IbanezDan said: Photos are making me drool. Why do some cars have a black centre painted steering wheel and some have an anthracite grey? I like the black.. No idea - I prefer the grey that came in mine and afaik no option from the factory at the time to change.

Not sure on different steering wheels available, without special request, like Al’s sister RB car, but I always loved the feel on this one.

alscar said: No idea - I prefer the grey that came in mine and afaik no option from the factory at the time to change. Mine is anthracite also -

Yum. Folding buckets. Had those in a 997 GT2 and must say, divine comfort.

jonny finance said: Yum. Folding buckets. Had those in a 997 GT2 and must say, divine comfort. Definitely a lot nicer than the fixed! But my other half still complains its too upright and uncomfortable! Which is fine with me as she doesn't have to come

Same with mine but I do quite like the look of the black one. Love the painted centre console. One of the options I wish my car had.

I saw two cars with painted centre consoles - red and white. Didn't like it - but if I had a PTS car I'd want to show that off more so think it looks good. Carbon centre console still the favourite for me!

IbanezDan said: Definitely a lot nicer than the fixed! But my other half still complains its too upright and uncomfortable! Which is fine with me as she doesn't have to come Another vote for the folding and yes my wife was similarly negative although not as bad as her complaints about the seats in my Exige.

Those folding pews were also available in leather and until recently one could buy a set from Porsche at not too bad a deal. Goodness knows now - prob £10k

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Carbon console for me.

jonny finance said: Yes nomex only in clubsport cars - or leather in cars with Folding buckets specced and no CS package. I like the nomex, never too cold, breathable too and lets not forget - race

alscar said: Carbon console for me. Identical to mine, love it. But do worry as I see a lot of cracked ones and milky ones on ebay. Hoping mine stays nice and vibrant/uncracked for many years to come.

Must say, love the carbon but the painted console did cheery up the cabin somewhat .. Think in the 997 GT cars one could chose various seat options. You see lots 997 GT2 RS with the leather folding buckets ?? Agree, nomex far comfier surface to work from

And talking of wear items. God help you if your carbon gear knob delaminates. They are mental money and near enough unavailable. Even that little gear top insert, which does wear/fade, is near impossible to source. Luckily I had a pal with more interesting new/old parts than Porsche who had one !!

jonny finance said: And talking of wear items. God help you if your carbon gear knob delaminates. They are mental money and near enough unavailable. Even that little gear top insert, which does wear/fade, is near impossible to source. Luckily I had a pal with more interesting new/old parts than Porsche who had one !! Yes I have one! The only part thats started to look a little tired is the grey painted part on top which I would like to replace! If you have any leads...Pm

Will do. Annoyingly the gear knob top insert off the GT2 RS is available but has the red script

jonny finance said: Will do. Annoyingly the gear knob top insert off the GT2 RS is available but has the red script It would match my interior but not original - though it would be easier to paint the inner writing. Can you PM me a part number/availability? Thanks!

136+fees and 3 hours to go! Already more than I would have paid for a colour but I do totally understand - probably never get the opportunity to buy a RB car in this condition ever again.

I understand what your saying but I’ve always positively campaigned this particular car as a stand out. It’s not just the colour, factory first paint & the one off spec - it’s the condition. You have got to always get underneath to assess and determine if it’s been correctly loved !

Starting to make PM’s car look not to bad a buy…

Well that’s suspect, countdown went to 0 with no new bids added and another 2 mins were added.

Well odd last bidding but final hammer price was 165k plus fees … mental.

169950 total..

And there we have it folks. The market has spoken - shouted even…. ‘She’s only worth what someone will pay’ Special cars command Special prices

IbanezDan said: 169950 total.. Mental, nearly £60k more than mine, more miles, more owners, well that told me! As I said a lovely car, hope the owner uses it and does not just puts it away in a private collection.

IbanezDan said: 169950 total.. Dk made some good profit out of owning that car for a short while! Probably bought buy a big hitter collector to be locked away and never seen again.

My prediction is that car will appear again in a year or so having been in storage at DK for a “big collector”…..

Well well well... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... Common as muck lately... Another Riviera blue GT3 - did this belong to anyone on here? RK11NZP - WP0ZZZ99ZBS780644 I think this may be the ex press car? Priced up at 159,500!

Coincidentally, Phil Morrison posted a new Driftworks video yesterday in which he confirmed that his Riviera 997 failed to sell when he advertised it last summer so he is keeping it, and has sold his 992 GT3 instead.

IbanezDan said: Well well well... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... B Common as muck lately... Another Riviera blue GT3 - did this belong to anyone on here? RK11NZP - WP0ZZZ99ZBS780644 I think this may be the ex press car? Priced up at 159,500! Does look like the press car. I believe Dk sold one for similar money not that long ago.

It is the press car, i owned it late 2013 to late 2017. Done very few miles since I sold it, went into a collection.

AL001 said: It is the press car, i owned it late 2013 to late 2017. Done very few miles since I sold it, went into a collection. I am surprised to see a press car without lift.

IbanezDan said: AL001 said: It is the press car, i owned it late 2013 to late 2017. Done very few miles since I sold it, went into a collection. I am surprised to see a press car without lift. Lift is a relatively new obsession in my view. When the cars were new I don't think many people spec'd it as the early versions were reported to be not very reliable. Over time on subsequent models reliability improved, to the point where now people express sheer horror and outrage when a car doesn't have it

rrroro said: Lift is a relatively new obsession in my view. When the cars were new I don't think many people spec'd it as the early versions were reported to be not very reliable. Over time on subsequent models reliability improved, to the point where now people express sheer horror and outrage when a car doesn't have it Not saying its a requirement, I barely use it on my car - although proved extremely useful for getting off my parents drive. It wouldnt have stopped me buying the car though. (If anything maybe a plus as something less to go wrong ) Dan

IbanezDan said: rrroro said: Lift is a relatively new obsession in my view. When the cars were new I don't think many people spec'd it as the early versions were reported to be not very reliable. Over time on subsequent models reliability improved, to the point where now people express sheer horror and outrage when a car doesn't have it Not saying its a requirement, I barely use it on my car - although proved extremely useful for getting off my parents drive. It wouldnt have stopped me buying the car though. (If anything maybe a plus as something less to go wrong ) Dan Haha! Yes, I'm sure a press car being spec'd without it tells a story in itself. They usually come with all the bells and whistles unless Porsche is trying to prove a point (i.e. I don't think Hebe had AC or PCM let alone front lift)

jonny finance said: Not sure on different steering wheels available, without special request, like Al’s sister RB car, but I always loved the feel on this one. Anthracite centre - standard wheel; Black centre - special option with slightly thicker padding on wheel.

Nice video of Phil's car after it failed to sell last year. Not for the purists, but it does look good...

IbanezDan said: Well well well... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... Common as muck lately... Another Riviera blue GT3 - did this belong to anyone on here? RK11NZP - WP0ZZZ99ZBS780644 I think this may be the ex press car? Priced up at 159,500! Still for sale, now with a £10k price drop.

Still cannot get in my head why a blue one would be worth £40k more than any other colour one? Sure it’s a nice colour and probably worth some sort of premium but £40k?

Orange Blackbird said: Still cannot get in my head why a blue one would be worth £40k more than any other colour one? Sure it’s a nice colour and probably worth some sort of premium but £40k? Show me another clubsport 997.2 for sale with <30k miles for under 110k? There isnt one - actually there isn't any clubsports. So what you are comparing it too for the 40k premium? Id say the equivalent car in a standard colour from Porschw with warranty would be 120-130k?

Orange Blackbird said: Still cannot get in my head why a blue one would be worth £40k more than any other colour one? Sure it’s a nice colour and probably worth some sort of premium but £40k? It’s lead a harder life being a ex press car too.

I saw the one in Porsche Glasgow today. Looks amazing in that colour imo. Sold now too.

Glasgow had it in stock for three months. Initially offered at £159k, eventually reduced to £139k and likely sold this week for £136k

I thought the original £159k asking was punchy, considering that this is not the only RB car in existence. Lovely colour though and it still fetched good money.

Amazing how sparse and functional the factory interior was on these older GT3s, compared to the Sewing Bee interiors of modern GT cars. Not a criticism, just an observation.

rrroro said: Amazing how sparse and functional the factory interior was on these older GT3s, compared to the Sewing Bee interiors of modern GT cars. Not a criticism, just an observation. it should be criticised though - I know its all personal preference but when you've got more Carrera T's ( remember this is the "drivers" 911 ) being specced with Sunroofs and Stitching over rear wheel steer and LED's something has gone wrong. Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember when you could order a sports seat for just the drivers side. Sometimes you can give people too much choice.

I think it’s a valid criticism too. The days of buying a “Clubsport” Porsche and it basically being a Porsche race car with some road additions (carpets, heater and some NVH concessions) are now long in the past. It’d be easy to say it’s now a badge exercise with some bits to make you look hard at the latest track day but it hasn’t gone quite that far, but still… I suppose they know their market. How many people would really buy a Cup car with carpets and a PDK box these days even if they could? Or how many teams would be happy with GT3 road car fitted with solid bushes and a dog box if that was what was on offer? I guess the answer lies somewhere between the two. Regarding interiors, I guess the 90s RS road cars made do with leather seats so it’s not like their isn’t history there.