Will there be a 992.2? - Page 3 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

This is pure speculation but…I wonder if Porsche will actually release a mid-cycle refresh of the 992, or just keep it as-is until the next all-new 911 model? I know a mid-cycle refresh probably offers the potential of a boost in sales as it’ll appeal to those who crave the latest version, but what realistically needs to be changed on the current 992.1 model? Thinking about previous mid-cycle refreshes: 996.2 improved the styling by binning the fried egg headlights and adding a modest power increase 997.2 introduced a totally new much more reliable engine 991.2 introduced turbocharged engines across the range (excl. GT3) OK I’m biased as I’ve just picked up a new 992.1 and think it’s fabulous in every way, but what would Porsche change to increase the appeal to buyers? Getting rid of an analogue tachometer and making some minor changes to the bumper, as is rumoured for the 992.2? Hardly seems revolutionary. Or maybe, given the swings in demand given the current economic situation, perhaps it would be better to keep producing the 992.1? That would avoid the risk of any component inventory write-offs in the changeover, and presumably save some money. You heard it here first!

There will definitely be one. In recent generations the gen 2 car is when they roll out the power train updates (hybrid?), everything else is minor. Expect interior changes to reflect more of the Taycan and new Cayenne.

Yes, and due soon, one of the contributing factors to the number of new 911s available is that buyers are deffering their orders to the .2 and vacating their .1 spot in the queue.

A whole slew of 992.2 variants including the GT cars over the next couple of years.

I understand the 992.2 has been delayed? OPC mentioned it a few weeks ago and Nick Murray, (YouTuber) mentions a 12 month delay in his latest video. Estimated delivery sometime in 25…

Interesting point on the 992.2. My OPC told me only a couple of weeks ago that the the launch will be held at the LA Motor Show in November, and that the order books will be open from early Jan. But interesting to read that some dealers are still getting allocations for cars for Nov/Dec, you would expect 992 production to halted whilst tooling is changed.

Latest undisguised shots. Interesting front active aero bumper

Interesting, and no doubt effective. Not loving the aesthetic though.

Are we any closer to knowing more details, and the likely start of production ? Haven’t trawled through the internet, but gather it could be as early as next spring/early summer, although ‘hybrid’ coming later. Must be a dilemma for anyone contemplating a new 992.1.

Public announcement should be soon, as speaking to OPCs, the demand for 992.1 is cooling off, and people that are prepared to wait for the new model cause production planning issues. I am one of many customers that advised OPC that I no longer want 992.1 and I will wait for 992.2. It creates problems for OPC, as they cannot create demand on the system for 992.2, as yet, and the factory schedules production to fictitious demand. It wouldn't be a problem in low interest rate environment... it is an increasing problem with the high interest rates.

Suppose the dilemma is whether the 992.2 will be ‘better’ than the 992.1 ? Ordinarily, each new version of the 911 is better than the last, but often loses some of its original DNA in the process. I recall, when the 992 was launched, quite a few people felt it had got bigger, more technical and driver assisted, and lost some of its soul. Will this continue? Gather even the last remaining analogue dial - the rev counter - will be digital as the interior more closely matches the corporate Taycan/Panamera/Cayenne layout.

Of course it will be better ... as it is in every iteration, but of course some of us might prefer the older derivative. I wanted 992 C2S ... couldn't get it, so I bought 992 T and I love it to the point that I an no longer convinced I need a C2S, so I ordered Targa 4S. However, I am not that excited about hybrids, so I may give it a swerve and ride fossil-fuel wave until proper EV 911 comes out in 5 years or so.

If they don’t sort the cup holder, I’m out.

TTmonkey said: If they don’t sort the cup holder, I’m out. Oh... "bring out your dead"

I’ve heard conflicting predictions about when this will be launched and builds will commence. There is a prediction that it will be shown at The Geneva Show in only 6 weeks time - with production commencing in the spring. Others say after summer. A good indicator would be 992.1 build slots that anyone may have in the forthcoming months. What is the latest build anyone has for a 992.1 T, S, GTS ?

992.1 T build mid Feb……

I cancelled a late UK March 992 T slot, believe early April slot was available in Germany & Switzerland, then no more.

Had it on very good authority that the 992.2 will be released for ordering in July. Carrera base will be NA engine, GTS will be released at the same time.

In reality it’s a bag of over bloated tut so who really cares. I suspect this might be a less than popular view

If they can produce another 20 variants of it as the current 992 there will be choice for everybody ( almost literally )

Heard from a reliable source that Porsche are making a change from the norm with the summer release of the 992.2. GTS will be available from launch, Turbo models not being released until late 2025. First 992.2 deliveries expect Q4 2024.

I am very keen to move from a 992.1 S to a 992.2 GTS Targa. Not sure what engine will be, MHEV or whatever- power will be upon but so many conflicting stories. Anyone have the inside track on 992.2 and/or Targa. What something practical and GT3 isn't really that. Colour thoughts? Same palette as new panny and new tacan? Oak Green - yum!

neilf said: Heard from a reliable source that Porsche are making a change from the norm with the summer release of the 992.2. GTS will be available from launch, Turbo models not being released until late 2025. First 992.2 deliveries expect Q4 2024. That's good to hear about the Turbo being delayed - presumably to further test the hybrid system. Means getting into a 992.1 Turbo now isn't going to immediately shed £££££ in 6 months.

Wonder if they will end up doing a Turbo 1.5 as with the 997. Facelift exterior and interior, but original powertrain for a year/18 months until the new engine is ready?

June release. Base & S priced £10k - £12k higher, but that might include higher standard spec..

maura said: June release. Base & S priced £10k - £12k higher, but that might include higher standard spec.. That is brave if they are struggling to shift them at the current prices. That would take them out of a lot of peoples budgets, especially with the increased funding costs. You would think the pool of potential customers willing to commit to that sort of outlay wouldn't be enough to satisfy the volume they require. Interesting.

Porsche answers to shareholders now. Meant to say €10k to €12k, not £, but they know they will have a 18 month sold out car..

Stupot123 said: You would think the pool of potential customers willing to commit to that sort of outlay wouldn't be enough to satisfy the volume they require. Interesting. Interesting, how would you estimate the pool size ?

maura said: Porsche answers to shareholders now. Meant to say €10k to €12k, not £, but they know they will have a 18 month sold out car.. zero chance there will be an 18 month wait for them. if 992.1 anything to go by there will be plenty availablre and discounts to be had. i got 3.5k off a new 992 in first batch of cars at opc i was using at the time.

guyvert1 said: Interesting, how would you estimate the pool size ? Bigger at x than it would be at x+£12k. And we know at x they have unsold cars coming out their ears.

Porsche know they have a load of customers that buy only .2 versions of the 911 range, they don’t even bother with the .1 versions. They will have no problem selling the first year of production of 992.2 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:06 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:08

JJ77 said: Porsche know they have a load of customers that buy only .2 versions of the 911 range, they don’t even bother with the .1 versions. They will have no problem selling the first year of production of 992.2 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:06 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:08 agreed, plus a load of people who just buy every new version to use as their daily car / just replace it every 3-4 years with a new one

Sidsw said: zero chance there will be an 18 month wait for them. if 992.1 anything to go by there will be plenty availablre and discounts to be had. i got 3.5k off a new 992 in first batch of cars at opc i was using at the time. What a surprise you make it over here with your doom/ bs prophecy’s on Porsche 911 prices.. how’s that been going for you since September.? Porsche must be shaking in their boots that you know their business better than them. The cars will never be cheap enough for you son.. Sidsw, more like s tshow Edited by maura on Saturday 20th April 10:31

JJ77 said: Porsche know they have a load of customers that buy only .2 versions of the 911 range, they don’t even bother with the .1 versions. They will have no problem selling the first year of production of 992.2 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:06 Edited by JJ77 on Friday 19th April 23:08 some real comedians on this site

maura said: What a surprise you make it over here with your doom/ bs prophecy’s on Porsche 911 prices.. how’s that been going for you since September.? Porsche must be shaking in their boots that you know their business better than them. The cars will never be cheap enough for you son.. Sidsw, more like s tshow Edited by maura on Saturday 20th April 10:31 prices are down, sales are down, share price is down, gt market is on its arse, i think my predictions are pretty accurate. bigger giants than porsche have fallen and with their insitence of moving their range to EV, their time to fall might be sooner rather than later. i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more. turbo s looks stupidly priced. as for son, hasnt your mom told you her little secret yet?! Edited by Sidsw on Saturday 20th April 11:19

new shots of the 992.2 GT3 interior show all digital dash https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/1c6iv6l/...

Koln-RS said: Removing the analogue rev counter is a retrograde move imo. But nice to see a manual gearbox, even if the cup holder is still in an awkward place. +1

maura said: Sidsw said: zero chance there will be an 18 month wait for them. if 992.1 anything to go by there will be plenty availablre and discounts to be had. i got 3.5k off a new 992 in first batch of cars at opc i was using at the time. What a surprise you make it over here with your doom/ bs prophecy’s on Porsche 911 prices.. how’s that been going for you since September.? Porsche must be shaking in their boots that you know their business better than them. The cars will never be cheap enough for you son.. Sidsw, more like s tshow Edited by maura on Saturday 20th April 10:31

Sidsw said: prices are down, sales are down, share price is down, gt market is on its arse, i think my predictions are pretty accurate. bigger giants than porsche have fallen and with their insitence of moving their range to EV, their time to fall might be sooner rather than later. i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more. turbo s looks stupidly priced. as for son, hasnt your mom told you her little secret yet?! Edited by Sidsw on Saturday 20th April 11:19 Just to clarify shares are NOT down. FTSE is at an all time 5 year high On your second point are you saying there are 296 992 GTS being offered for sale at £100k off ? actual line was "i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more" I am not sure if that makes sense, can you clarify what you mean please

EvoSid said: Sidsw said: prices are down, sales are down, share price is down, gt market is on its arse, i think my predictions are pretty accurate. bigger giants than porsche have fallen and with their insitence of moving their range to EV, their time to fall might be sooner rather than later. i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more. turbo s looks stupidly priced. as for son, hasnt your mom told you her little secret yet?! Edited by Sidsw on Saturday 20th April 11:19 Just to clarify shares are NOT down. FTSE is at an all time 5 year high On your second point are you saying there are 296 992 GTS being offered for sale at £100k off ? actual line was "i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more" I am not sure if that makes sense, can you clarify what you mean please Maybe he meant Ferrari 296 GTS not 296 992 gts's?

quigonjay said: EvoSid said: Sidsw said: prices are down, sales are down, share price is down, gt market is on its arse, i think my predictions are pretty accurate. bigger giants than porsche have fallen and with their insitence of moving their range to EV, their time to fall might be sooner rather than later. i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more. turbo s looks stupidly priced. as for son, hasnt your mom told you her little secret yet?! Edited by Sidsw on Saturday 20th April 11:19 Just to clarify shares are NOT down. FTSE is at an all time 5 year high On your second point are you saying there are 296 992 GTS being offered for sale at £100k off ? actual line was "i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more" I am not sure if that makes sense, can you clarify what you mean please Maybe he meant Ferrari 296 GTS not 296 992 gts's? correct ferrari 296 gtb, not gts, but gts will be there soon enough!

EvoSid said: Sidsw said: prices are down, sales are down, share price is down, gt market is on its arse, i think my predictions are pretty accurate. bigger giants than porsche have fallen and with their insitence of moving their range to EV, their time to fall might be sooner rather than later. i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more. turbo s looks stupidly priced. as for son, hasnt your mom told you her little secret yet?! Edited by Sidsw on Saturday 20th April 11:19 Just to clarify shares are NOT down. FTSE is at an all time 5 year high On your second point are you saying there are 296 992 GTS being offered for sale at £100k off ? actual line was "i have no desire to over pay and i am happy to wait. with nearly new 296gts being offered with 100k off at touch over 200k not long till porsche drop more" I am not sure if that makes sense, can you clarify what you mean please i meant porsche ag share price.

I really dont think anyone cares what you mean.

+ 100

Dealers will have their demos in September.

neilf said: Dealers will have their demos in September. orders won't be fulfilled then until 2025. I am surprised they haven't done a final special edition 992.1 as a farewell to the all ICE engine era.

Date for the diary. 28th May.

neilf said: Date for the diary. 28th May. The reports are the 992.2 is 8.7s quicker than a 992.1 Carrera 4 GTS around the Nürburgring

I’ve never seen them put a carrera 4 variant around the ring, but interestingly the 991.2 GTS at 7.23 went quicker than the 992 as well. Anything can happen on the day I guess. The driver also has a very big part to play!!