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Apologies for asking a question which I am sure has been asked many times before, but can anybody advise on how to identify the various PCM systems? I am a proud owner of an October 2003 Cayenne S (it was my choice and I love it) but I want to update the maps on the PCM system (CD based not DVD). I have had zero help from my local Porsche garage and they cannot offer me any update on the system but have sourced some other locations which will sell me updated software. However, I have no wish to purchase new discs only to find they do not work. How can I identify idf it is a PCM version 1 or 2? and also if it needs any additional software to allow me to use updated discs? I have sourced someone in Bulgaria who is selling 2008 disc sets for $50 - too good to be true?

Hi, I asked a question yesterday with regard to the Sat Nav in exactly the same car. I have just broken the UK map CD. It is my understanding that this is PCM 1. The newer PCM 2 being an upgraded system. I do not think the new maps will work. But if they do then please advise me.

Just contacted Porsche. £350 for the full set of discs.Can only get a full set!! Looked on the internet and found the following contact: "If anyone else is interested Gil Keane can be contacted on 0121 773 7000 or 07973 216682 or via modern day electronic-mail @ [email removed]" He is ringing me back tomorrow. They can get a up to date disc at £150 so I have read.

Have a care. PCM 1 and PCM 2 were both CD-based, and 2003 is the change-over year. PCM 2.1 and PCM 3 are DVD-based.

I understand the way of telling which one you have is as follows, PCM1 has casette PCM2 has not. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have ordered the 8 disc package from Eastern Europe and will advise once arrived and if it works.

If you press main and trip at the same time it will tell you what version you have. I had a similar query a few months back and someone posted up that this was how to do it (and it is, which is nice). If you find out a source for updated discs I'd be interested as I have an 03 Boxster S with a very scratched nav disc that refuses to work 99% of the time.

By pressing the main and trip button that will tell you what version of software you have. I am sure that PCM 1 has casette and PCM 2 has not.

When I press the buttons together the menu says I have software version 3.0 The unit has a CD in it. The navigation CD`s say "compatible with software version 3.0 or higher(Push main and trip)." All I really need is a copy of the CD 4 which covers Great Britain.

You want CD3 of the 8-disk 08.2007 maps, not CD4. PCM 1 First Generation (8 bit) - 1998 to Dec 2000 996/986 Boxster PCM 1 Second Generation (16 Bit) - Jan 2001 to Aug 2002 996/986 Boxster PCM 2.0 - Sept 02 onwards in 996/Boxster PCM 2.0 - (CD Based) Cayenne introduction until Aug 2004 PCM 2.1 - (DVD Based) Cayenne Sept 2004 on, and all 987/997.

Is it permissable to post links to a source who is selling these for a very cheap price?

Can't help ref the above permission request but if you'd PM me the info I'd be grateful

Well I got my 8 discs delivered today from Romania. Hower I am currently in the US and my wife is not very technically minded so I cannot confirm if they work. If they do then it will be well woth the $50 I paid for them.

I have a contact if you want to PM me....

Just to let you know that the discs are working first class and as are advertised. They actually came from Bulgaria and not Romania as I originally thought. All 8 discs work fine.

I have the PCM 2.1 I believe with maps from 2006. Can your contact supply later maps for this system? Vielen dank!

digjharper said: Well I got my 8 discs delivered today from Romania. Hower I am currently in the US and my wife is not very technically minded so I cannot confirm if they work. If they do then it will be well woth the $50 I paid for them. Hi Im in a similiar position to what you were, just got my 2003 Cayenne Turbo and want to update the maps on the PCM 2 system. Can you tell me who it was you got the disks from? Thanks

Thanks for the link. Just ordered the latest PCM2.1 DVD for $30 including P&P, Porsche wanted £350 + VAT!

Need For Speed said: Thanks for the link. Just ordered the latest PCM2.1 DVD for $30 including P&P, Porsche wanted £350 + VAT! Do you mind forwarding me the link too? Does it include seperate update DVDs for the PCM too?

Check your email Dan.

Can you email me the link as well please, I've a 2004 April Cayenne S. Thanks in advance.

thanks.

They can be had for the price of some blanks if you know where to look on the interweb .....;o)

Could someone please send me the link? Thanks

Mate, just post the link. Who cares?

Steve996 said: They can be had for the price of some blanks if you know where to look on the interweb .....;o) Any chance of a pm?

For version 3 only - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/porsche-pcm-dvd-navigation-e... - Lets not start a bidding war. Maybe one person from PH can purchase and recoup costs from rest who require it. Mine ie 2.0 so I have no use for this one. I think it can also be sourced from torrent site... Will see what I can find.. Edited by faruk_evian on Monday 29th June 12:19

Bid - I can assist others (without writing anything on a board!!) Pm me with your details if I win.

dan1502 said: Steve996 said: They can be had for the price of some blanks if you know where to look on the interweb .....;o) Any chance of a pm? YHM Need to be torrent fluent though....

This is the place I got mine (he sells DVD and CD versions) http://navigationdisk.eu/?p=336 http://navigationdisk.eu/?cat=7 Got them delivered within a week and its paypal so quite safe.

Mine is a late 2001 model (51 plate) facelift 3.6 996 with PCM 1. How do I check my current firmware version and map version and which are the latest versions I should be looking for?

So I've now worked out how to find out which software version is running - you press the ac button and the right toggle button for about 3 secs. Mine is running version 5.43 which I think might be the latest version for PCM1 16 bit version. Confirmation of this being the latest or otherwise would be appreciated as the threads I have read are quite old. What I don't know is which maps I should seek out. I would like to know what the latest maps are called and when they date from so that I can seek them out. Thanks Dan

can someone pls send me the link as well thx

or the torrent link

Given I'm about to buy an 04 Cayenne, can we avoid posting anything approaching direct links to pirated software. (and someone PM me )

Guys I've just got my 8 disk set of 2008 CD Maps from Bulgaria too, however my 2003 Cayenne is running Software version 2.0 in my PCM 2.0 system and I still cannot input destination via Post Code. I have the Firmware update disk from 2.0 to 3.0 for 996/Boxter but not Cayenne (different device number), can anyone help me out with that? Thanks

markjo said: can someone pls send me the link as well thx Can someone pls send me the link as well Thanks

Me too. Need the software update disk for a 2003 Cayenne S with CD based PCM2. Is the Bulgaria man and NavigatioDisk.eu the same man. Anyone had them and do they work OK. I believe he can only supply the 8 map CDs and not the software update??

digjharper said: This is the place I got mine (he sells DVD and CD versions) http://navigationdisk.eu/?p=336 http://navigationdisk.eu/?cat=7 Got them delivered within a week and its paypal so quite safe. Did you need to do a software update or just drop the 2008 map CDs straight in ??

Can I get a copy of the link as well. I have a 2000 Boxster S with the PCM 1.0 system. Thanks, Brad.

Need For Speed said: Thanks for the link. Just ordered the latest PCM2.1 DVD for $30 including P&P, Porsche wanted £350 + VAT! How latest is the latest maps DVD for 2.1?

digjharper said: I understand the way of telling which one you have is as follows, PCM1 has casette PCM2 has not. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have ordered the 8 disc package from Eastern Europe and will advise once arrived and if it works. true

Womaniser said: I know where you can get the latest mapping (MY 2010, dated 08/2009) as long as you have PCM2.1 with software V3.0 or later, drop me a PM. Edited by Womaniser on Wednesday 30th June 00:05 Might help if you allowed PM's

Ditto, would like to update the wife's 2007 cayenne - would appreciate the contact

Apologies, updated my profile.

I'm confused by this. I'm looking for an update to my Nav and PCM system. I bought my car 1 month ago, so I'm new to this particular system. My '54 C2s has a factory fit PCM, with Nav and Phone. All works fine, but the maps could do with updating. PCM tells me its SW version is 1.0, when I press main and trip, but its a dvd based system. The DVD in the drive is a 2004 Europe version (the original presumably) My understanding is that I've therefore got PCM2.1, but cant find reference to this on the unit. I'm loathe to buy a DVD update from OPC due to the cost and the fact I'm not sure what I need. Where would I locate a suitable DVD outside the OPC network (I'm new to Porsche) Why is the head unit saying version 1.0 on the software if I have a DVD system? Cheers for any help. Simon

I'm confused by this. I'm looking for an update to my Nav and PCM system. I bought my car 1 month ago, so I'm new to this particular system. My '54 C2s has a factory fit PCM, with Nav and Phone. All works fine, but the maps could do with updating. PCM tells me its SW version is 1.0, when I press main and trip, but its a dvd based system. The DVD in the drive is a 2004 Europe version (the original presumably) My understanding is that I've therefore got PCM2.1, but cant find reference to this on the unit. I'm loathe to buy a DVD update from OPC due to the cost and the fact I'm not sure what I need. Where would I locate a suitable DVD outside the OPC network (I'm new to Porsche) Why is the head unit saying version 1.0 on the software if I have a DVD system? Cheers for any help. Simon

Just for a warning about the guy selling the discs in Bulgaria, the maps he is selling are not what he states. He states 2009 discs but they are 2006 maps! Don't believe me?......put the disc into your PC CD/DVD drive and read off the file date! Shadey as hell. I know where you can get the latest mapping (MY 2010, dated 08/2009) as long as you have PCM2.1 with software V3.0 or later, drop me a PM. Edited by Womaniser on Wednesday 14th July 23:30

simonthackeray said: I'm confused by this. I'm looking for an update to my Nav and PCM system. I bought my car 1 month ago, so I'm new to this particular system. My '54 C2s has a factory fit PCM, with Nav and Phone. All works fine, but the maps could do with updating. PCM tells me its SW version is 1.0, when I press main and trip, but its a dvd based system. The DVD in the drive is a 2004 Europe version (the original presumably) My understanding is that I've therefore got PCM2.1, but cant find reference to this on the unit. I'm loathe to buy a DVD update from OPC due to the cost and the fact I'm not sure what I need. Where would I locate a suitable DVD outside the OPC network (I'm new to Porsche) Why is the head unit saying version 1.0 on the software if I have a DVD system? Cheers for any help. Simon Yes you have PCM2.1. Most of this thread is about PCM1.0 and PCM2.0. PCM2.1 is a completely different system. What you have is the original software for 2.1. To run the latest maps, you would need to do a software update. The latest version for PCM2.1 is (coincidentally) 3.0 also. The updates are done with an update CD. What you have to be careful about is the amplifier software. The very, very, early PCM2.1 amps cannot be updated by a CD - doing so will brick them. If you press MAIN and TRIP at the same time it will display the unit's software versions. Scroll down and select amplifier. If the software is 000175000/xxxx then it is the later amp, and can be updated.

Richard Hamilton said: ...The latest version for PCM2.1 is (coincidentally) 3.0 also.... My PCM2.1 has version 4.0 of the software!

Womaniser said: Richard Hamilton said: ...The latest version for PCM2.1 is (coincidentally) 3.0 also.... My PCM2.1 has version 4.0 of the software! Interesting. When you do the software updates on older units to run the latest maps, it updates to 3.0. I assume your car is fairly new, and came from the factory with version 4.0?

Richard Hamilton said: Womaniser said: Richard Hamilton said: ...The latest version for PCM2.1 is (coincidentally) 3.0 also.... My PCM2.1 has version 4.0 of the software! Interesting. When you do the software updates on older units to run the latest maps, it updates to 3.0. I assume your car is fairly new, and came from the factory with version 4.0? Not sure TBH. My 997 is a December 2006 car, maybe it was updated at it's last OPC service in late 2008.

Richard Hamilton said: simonthackeray said: I'm confused by this. I'm looking for an update to my Nav and PCM system. I bought my car 1 month ago, so I'm new to this particular system. My '54 C2s has a factory fit PCM, with Nav and Phone. All works fine, but the maps could do with updating. PCM tells me its SW version is 1.0, when I press main and trip, but its a dvd based system. The DVD in the drive is a 2004 Europe version (the original presumably) My understanding is that I've therefore got PCM2.1, but cant find reference to this on the unit. I'm loathe to buy a DVD update from OPC due to the cost and the fact I'm not sure what I need. Where would I locate a suitable DVD outside the OPC network (I'm new to Porsche) Why is the head unit saying version 1.0 on the software if I have a DVD system? Cheers for any help. Simon Yes you have PCM2.1. Most of this thread is about PCM1.0 and PCM2.0. PCM2.1 is a completely different system. What you have is the original software for 2.1. To run the latest maps, you would need to do a software update. The latest version for PCM2.1 is (coincidentally) 3.0 also. The updates are done with an update CD. What you have to be careful about is the amplifier software. The very, very, early PCM2.1 amps cannot be updated by a CD - doing so will brick them. If you press MAIN and TRIP at the same time it will display the unit's software versions. Scroll down and select amplifier. If the software is 000175000/xxxx then it is the later amp, and can be updated. Im even more confused now! I've just been out to the car, and checked the system again. Firstly, there is no amplifier listed separately, I have 5 entries on the screen: PCM System Software CD Changer Navigation Phone When I go into the menu the numbers are as follows: PCM 04035AD1/0304 Syst 03514AD1/5103 CD C38/3003 Nav 00174155/2704 Phone 0002.22R/1803 So there is one number that is below the 00017500/xxx range, but it does not relate to an amplifier. Presumably the amplifier setting would be there if the case had BOSE which is doesnt. Does this mean I can upgrade simply or not then? And if so does it have to be via OPC?

Ahhhh. If you don't have the Bose amp, then it won't be a problem to update it. Drop me a PM.

Pm Sent

Can someone please help me... I would like to upgrade the system software on my PCM to use the latest Europe maps. However, I am not sure if I can safely upgrade my PCM (which has the Bose amplifier) Please find attached the screenshots of my system Can this be done via CDs or does it need PIWIS? Thank you Regards, Alex

Because the amp is the original version, if you try to update it with the Level A update CD it will definitely turn it into a brick. I don't know if it is possible to update it with PIWIS. There is a TSB on the subject, but it isn't very clear if it can be done. So you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If you want to get a cheap map DVD you can hardly go to an OPC and ask them to update the amp with the PIWIS without buying the maps from them. If you could find out for sure if it could be done, and then take it to an indy, that might be a way round it. Or if you are anywhere near me (Maidenhead, Berks) I'd be happy to do it for you.

Reading the TSB again, I found this: TSB Says said: Updating or replacing the BOSE amplifier. Replacement PCM2.1 matches the version for vehicles from M.Y. 05 as of the introduction date: Check the part number of installed BOSE amplifier. BOSE amplifier has the part number, 997.645.333.04 or 997.645.333.05: > replace the installed BOSE amplifier with the BOSE amplifier having part number, 997.645.334.22. Then for vehicles with PCM2.1 Navigation (I No. 670), replace the previously used navigation DVD with a new Navigation DVD. BOSE amplifier has the part number 997.645.333.06: >update the installed BOSE amplifier, continue with step 2. So you should check the part number of the amplifier to be sure. If it is a 333.04 or 333.05 then it would appear it can't be updated, and would have to be replaced. The amp is behind the panel for the hazard warning triange and tyre bottle. Edited by Richard Hamilton on Friday 16th July 20:03

Many thanks for your help. I will have a look at the amp this morning.

Richard Please find attached a photo of the label from the Bose amp. Could you please let me know if this can be updated via the CDs? Thank you for your continued help on this. Kind Regards, Alex

Kinda hoped you would find the 997 number to be sure. I suspect it might be on the other side of the unit.......

you mean OPC? Official Porsche Centre

DKC said: you mean OPC? Official Porsche Centre Sounds right, Thanks guys. Guess it's a book car in job. Had hoped it would be a dvd/usb stick somebody would sell. As i'm guessing that's how the update is applied.

TheCadd said: Sounds right, Thanks guys. Guess it's a book car in job. Had hoped it would be a dvd/usb stick somebody would sell. As i'm guessing that's how the update is applied. No, it takes around four hours hooked up to their computer system apparently (!), so book in for the day. S

stevod said: No, it takes around four hours hooked up to their computer system apparently (!), so book in for the day. S 4 hours, ouch. Thanks for all the helps folks, appreciated.

Hi all, iv been reading though this and am in a similar position I have a 2006 Cayman with the PCM 2.1 and very out of date map disc, is there anyone close to wiltshire that has the correct software discs and the map disc that i could travel to and in exchange for some beer tokens make me some BACK UP copys.....

Go to this site: http://www.satnavupgrades.co.uk It's essentially a BMW site but if you email him your car & system details he'll send you 2014 map discs for £25, worked a great on my pcm 2.1 system

Ferdinand_Jr said: Hi guys, thanks for all the information shared here. I found this thread searching the web for some PCM information. I have a 2007 911 Turbo, I found this web site www.climarepair.com which sells the 2015 DVD maps for the PCM 2.1: http://www.climarepair.com/2015-2016-navigation-dv... Would I be ok with that or do I need to update my PCM with an extra disc? Cheers! No clue?

On a MY2007 car you won't have to do any updates. The 2015 map disk will be plug & play.

Richard Hamilton said: On a MY2007 car you won't have to do any updates. The 2015 map disk will be plug & play. Thank you very much Richard

Hi again, I have a problem. I bought the DVD map for my 2007 Turbo on that website (climarepair) and everything works fine. Then I also bought the "PCM firmware upgrade kit" (http://www.climarepair.com/pcm-2-1-firmware-update/) in order to upgrade my 2005 Carrera S PCM firmware and be able to run 2015 maps on it. I upgraded the PCM with the 2 CDs provided, and now when I press Main+Trip this is what it shows: NAVIGATION SYSTEM: Theory: / Real: 00174156 / 2704 PCM: Theory: 05024AD1 /0205 Real: 05024AD1 /0205 SYSTEM SOFTWARE: Theory: 04364AD1 / 3604 Real: 04364AD1 / 3604 Then if I insert the new DVD map, system says "Navigation: DVD not recognized" Maybe the firmware upgrade crashed at some point? Should I just try to reload the firmware upgrade CDs or ask for a new copy of them both? Thanks!

Ferdinand_Jr said: Hi again, I have a problem. I bought the DVD map for my 2007 Turbo on that website (climarepair) and everything works fine. Then I also bought the "PCM firmware upgrade kit" (http://www.climarepair.com/pcm-2-1-firmware-update/) in order to upgrade my 2005 Carrera S PCM firmware and be able to run 2015 maps on it. I upgraded the PCM with the 2 CDs provided, and now when I press Main+Trip this is what it shows: NAVIGATION SYSTEM: Theory: / Real: 00174156 / 2704 PCM: Theory: 05024AD1 /0205 Real: 05024AD1 /0205 SYSTEM SOFTWARE: Theory: 04364AD1 / 3604 Real: 04364AD1 / 3604 Then if I insert the new DVD map, system says "Navigation: DVD not recognized" Maybe the firmware upgrade crashed at some point? Should I just try to reload the firmware upgrade CDs or ask for a new copy of them both? Thanks! Can someone help me with this issue?

Coming back to this thread just to inform that I just had to re-insert the DVD and then everything worked fine So my experience with climarepair.com was good! Cheers

Hi guys, thanks for all the information shared here. I found this thread searching the web for some PCM information. I have a 2007 911 Turbo, I found this web site www.climarepair.com which sells the 2015 DVD maps for the PCM 2.1: http://www.climarepair.com/navigation-maps/ Would I be ok with that or do I need to update my PCM with an extra disc? Cheers! Edit: Got it and works fine Edited by Ferdinand_Jr on Tuesday 6th September 23:01

hi all, i have a 2005 boxster 987 with the following sat nav ( see pics ) can anyone tell me where i can find update discs for my system and which ones i need ? Thanks guys n galls.

billybag51 said: hi all, i have a 2005 boxster 987 with the following sat nav ( see pics ) can anyone tell me where i can find update discs for my system and which ones i need ? Thanks guys n galls. speak to this guy and he can confirm http://www.satnavupgrades.co.uk think I paid £25 for my 2008 turbo

thanks adam, i purchased the discs from that source and although my system has updated the maps to a more current version, i am still unable to enter postcodes (or part) The guys thinks i should be able to but I'm having no luck. Anyone any ideas if i should be able to or not ?

billybag51 said: thanks adam, i purchased the discs from that source and although my system has updated the maps to a more current version, i am still unable to enter postcodes (or part) The guys thinks i should be able to but I'm having no luck. Anyone any ideas if i should be able to or not ? your satnav does not support postcodes .. only PCM 3.0 and above can be updated for, or have, postcode entry - these were fitted from 987.2 and 997.2 onwards

thanks SFO. So there is no quick fix to updating to this version, i guess the software in my unit can only be upgraded to a certain level ? shy of forking out £1500 for a complete new alpine/pioneer/kenwood system in stuck with manual road entry ?

billybag51 said: thanks adam, i purchased the discs from that source and although my system has updated the maps to a more current version, i am still unable to enter postcodes (or part) The guys thinks i should be able to but I'm having no luck. Anyone any ideas if i should be able to or not ? Have you tried entering the first few digits of the postcode in the TOWN field when entering a destination?

Richard Hamilton said: Have you tried entering the first few digits of the postcode in the TOWN field when entering a destination? This! PCM2.1 supports part postcodes (not the last two letters) PCM3.0 supports full postcode entry

yes on trying to enter a postcode for reading, i.e. RG12 6......... once I've typed in the 'R' then the 'G' isn't even an optional letter to type in, greyed out !

billybag51 said: yes on trying to enter a postcode for reading, i.e. RG12 6......... once I've typed in the 'R' then the 'G' isn't even an optional letter to type in, greyed out ! Greyed out means it has searched you can then type a letter or use the search result. Does anyone know how to check the map version on PCM3.1? My PCM has just been updated, I now have full post code search but the map still shows a local 4 round about cluster that was converted to a large single roundabout as 4 individuals.... they were done 2 years ago so this map cannot be up to date!!

Don't think you can check the map version, but the software can be done: Info > Option > Set PCM > Display > System Version Annoyingly there doesnt ever to be a changelog with version numbers

Somewhat pissed off that a 360 quid upgrade and a roundabout that has existed for over 2 years is reported wrong Giving them a call to find out what is what

SV_WDC said: Don't think you can check the map version, but the software can be done: Info > Option > Set PCM > Display > System Version Annoyingly there doesnt ever to be a changelog with version numbers As I understand it, software version 2.25 is the latest for PCM3.0. Once you have updated to version 2.23, maps prior to ~MY2010 will not work. The latest map (04/2015) requires software 2.24. The 7 digit postcode capability was introduced with 2.23. 2.23 also activated both Bluetooth protocols (HFP and rSAP) on the I666 phone module.

Richard Hamilton said: As I understand it, software version 2.25 is the latest for PCM3.0. Once you have updated to version 2.23, maps prior to ~MY2010 will not work. The latest map (04/2015) requires software 2.24. The 7 digit postcode capability was introduced with 2.23. 2.23 also activated both Bluetooth protocols (HFP and rSAP) on the I666 phone module. What does the bluetooth bit mean? Does it allow you to use the PCM bluetooth to play music (like you could on the prior MY's) and can from the 981 onwards?

George Smiley said: Somewhat pissed off that a 360 quid upgrade and a roundabout that has existed for over 2 years is reported wrong Giving them a call to find out what is what Unless things have changed Porsche maps only get updated every 2 years, possibly longer. The ones I had in my Cayman S were ancient, easily older than the car was. Utterly useless, but was still asked about PCM come resale.

SV_WDC said: Richard Hamilton said: As I understand it, software version 2.25 is the latest for PCM3.0. Once you have updated to version 2.23, maps prior to ~MY2010 will not work. The latest map (04/2015) requires software 2.24. The 7 digit postcode capability was introduced with 2.23. 2.23 also activated both Bluetooth protocols (HFP and rSAP) on the I666 phone module. What does the bluetooth bit mean? Does it allow you to use the PCM bluetooth to play music (like you could on the prior MY's) and can from the 981 onwards? If you have the I666 phone module, earlier versions of the software won't communicate with HFP protocol phones (like the iPhone and Androids). However, they do work with the I619 mobile phone preparation option. V2.23 added HFP to the I666 module. Previous versions of I666 only supported rSAP (Nokia, etc). I know, it is very confusing. Edited by Richard Hamilton on Saturday 8th July 12:58

Durzel said: George Smiley said: Somewhat pissed off that a 360 quid upgrade and a roundabout that has existed for over 2 years is reported wrong Giving them a call to find out what is what Unless things have changed Porsche maps only get updated every 2 years, possibly longer. The ones I had in my Cayman S were ancient, easily older than the car was. Utterly useless, but was still asked about PCM come resale. In that case as i wasnt informed of this or any mention I naturally assumed I would get current maps, I will ask for a free map when the latest map is released. The idea that latest means something different to current is misleading.

Bear in mind that there are usually two upgrades - software that runs the SatNav - the map data within the SatNav they may have only updated the first.

Irrespective as i asked for nav upgrade to latest maps If there are multiple choices they should inform you and if the latest map could be two or more years old they should tell you. I will be really pissed off if the real latest maps are launched soon.

Will there be another update for PCM maps? Wouldn't have thought so given the new cars using Apple/Google Maps. Although guess Porsche could theoretically keep updating the maps on the older PCM's anyway

Thread revival. I have a 2008 Gen 1 997, and this has a disc dating back to 2007. What is the difference between a 2007 and 2015 disc? Is it just a map update i.e new roads or does it improve the sat nav logic/post code entry e.t.c?

V6Alfisti said: Thread revival. I have a 2008 Gen 1 997, and this has a disc dating back to 2007. What is the difference between a 2007 and 2015 disc? Is it just a map update i.e new roads or does it improve the sat nav logic/post code entry e.t.c? discs just change the maps I used this guy to update my 2008 turbo disc - about £20 www.satnavupgrades.co.uk Edited by Adam B on Friday 19th October 11:28

Any chance of the link please I have purchased my first 2003 boxster s but no sat nav disc

Hi, sorry jumping on this thread on a slightly diff tangent. I have a 2004 Cayenne and can't find any info on using the 'bluetooth'... does anyone have any experience of setting this up? I'm not looking to spend the money to put one of those new PCCM head units in, just get the basic functions up and running on the original unit even if it's a bit limited by modern standards. It's asking for a sim card, maybe that's a duplicate sim card for my mobile...? Thanks in advance James

JamesHardy said: Hi, sorry jumping on this thread on a slightly diff tangent. I have a 2004 Cayenne and can't find any info on using the 'bluetooth'... does anyone have any experience of setting this up? I'm not looking to spend the money to put one of those new PCCM head units in, just get the basic functions up and running on the original unit even if it's a bit limited by modern standards. It's asking for a sim card, maybe that's a duplicate sim card for my mobile...? Thanks in advance James Does PCM 2 have Bluetooth? If not, you're into wiring in adapters, including plugging into the MOST, which is a pain. And then coding the car, so it sees the phone properly. Unless you're wedded to the nostalgic, maybe replace the whole thing SIM card, I don't think you can get duplicates these days, those were a 2G thing, and 4/5G doesn't support them.

randlemarcus said: Does PCM 2 have Bluetooth? If not, you're into wiring in adapters, including plugging into the MOST, which is a pain. And then coding the car, so it sees the phone properly. Unless you're wedded to the nostalgic, maybe replace the whole thing It doesn't, you need an adapter like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325492730386 which uses the port for the 6cd autochanger

randlemarcus said: Does PCM 2 have Bluetooth? If not, you're into wiring in adapters, including plugging into the MOST, which is a pain. And then coding the car, so it sees the phone properly. Unless you're wedded to the nostalgic, maybe replace the whole thing SIM card, I don't think you can get duplicates these days, those were a 2G thing, and 4/5G doesn't support them. Got you, thanks Marcus. Don't think it has proper Bluetooth as you say and might need that MOST adapter mentioned above... SIM wise I guess the only way to make it work then is to take your SIM out of your phone and put it in the PCM slot. Would at least stop you messing around with emails/whatsapps while driving

Adam. said: It doesn't, you need an adapter like this xxxxxxxxxxxxxx which uses the port for the 6cd autochanger Thanks Adam, that seems to be exactly the unit if I go for one. Cheers

JamesHardy said: randlemarcus said: Does PCM 2 have Bluetooth? If not, you're into wiring in adapters, including plugging into the MOST, which is a pain. And then coding the car, so it sees the phone properly. Unless you're wedded to the nostalgic, maybe replace the whole thing SIM card, I don't think you can get duplicates these days, those were a 2G thing, and 4/5G doesn't support them. Got you, thanks Marcus. Don't think it has proper Bluetooth as you say and might need that MOST adapter mentioned above... SIM wise I guess the only way to make it work then is to take your SIM out of your phone and put it in the PCM slot. Would at least stop you messing around with emails/whatsapps while driving On our 2008 we just bought a Tesco PAYG SIM card. Obviously the car gets it's own number but only my wife and I ever call the "car" when we know the other is driving. You can dial out any number of course.

TEKNOPUG said: JamesHardy said: randlemarcus said: Does PCM 2 have Bluetooth? If not, you're into wiring in adapters, including plugging into the MOST, which is a pain. And then coding the car, so it sees the phone properly. Unless you're wedded to the nostalgic, maybe replace the whole thing SIM card, I don't think you can get duplicates these days, those were a 2G thing, and 4/5G doesn't support them. Got you, thanks Marcus. Don't think it has proper Bluetooth as you say and might need that MOST adapter mentioned above... SIM wise I guess the only way to make it work then is to take your SIM out of your phone and put it in the PCM slot. Would at least stop you messing around with emails/whatsapps while driving On our 2008 we just bought a Tesco PAYG SIM card. Obviously the car gets it's own number but only my wife and I ever call the "car" when we know the other is driving. You can dial out any number of course. That's what I did on my 2005 Cayenne which had been upgraded to PCM2.1, I carry a work phone & juts used my personal SIM in the SIM draw. I think the first BT in Porsche was 2008/9 and even then it was A. an option & B. poor.

At a time when a Nissan Micro had BT as standard. The persistence with the daft SIM slot was bizarre for many years