Revo re-map

Im considering an ECU remap. Seems like there are limited options right now but Revo (California) appear to have a cayman s product that delivers 15-20bhp which seems more than most. Has anyone got experience of Revo. Here in the UK I have never heard of them but get the impression from the website that they are reputable in the US. Any advice / experiences much appreciated. Terry

I believe they are coming onboard as a sponsor soon. They are well known in the US but I have not seen a Cayman with their software in person yet. I think Neil Orton at Orton Performance has done a few Caymans with the REVO programming and could probably give you some first hand results.

Hi Terry, Revotechnik is actually a UK company. Their main client are cars from VWs group ie VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat and had a loyal fan base with good review. They also do Porsche (Surprise! Surprise!) I am planing to fit one after I fit the porsche sport exhaust+/-milltek manifold ie Jan 07. I will let everyone know my verdict after!! Superchip is also a UK company which does not specialise in any manufacterer. You might even consider DMS or AMD!!!

I dont see anything on there web site in regards to Cayman

Ken. I don't use Revo,I am working with a programmer from Germany.

Neil, Care to ellaborate? I understand Wendland has a software package that really brings the middle of the RPM range to life. Any chance this is your programmer?

Gator Bite. It's not Wendland.I am working with a programmer from Germany who is very well known in Europe.I can tell you that he has done and still does ECU work for the premier Porsche tuner in the world. Neil

Dave may be one day.............If only

Silly question: should I get the airfilter and exhaust fitted before the ECU re-map? The GIAC sales guy said that the ECU will 'adjust' to the exhaust / airfilter even if I had the ECU done ahead of the other mods? Here in Europe the Milltek exhaust is on a 8 week lead time - so ideally I would get the ECU and filter now and the exhaust later. Is this a mistake? Terry

terry...the GIAC guy is correct. The change in airflow is not significant enough to warrant a full retune (or different mapping) as you will not exceed the parameters of the tuned chip. The ecu is adaptive within a certain window of change to accomodate for dirty filters and such. This why there is only one program offered by most chip tuners like GIAC, REVO, Orton, etc.. This isn't to sat that a custom chip made by a competent tuner with your car on a dyno isn't more ideal. Its just confirming that if you get the chip before the I/E mods, it will adapt later once you do the mods and run the same way it would if you installed them in the reverse order. dw

Dave Revo has 2 stages for the Cayman S. Stage 1 is for cars without mods and stage 2 is for cars with a full exhaust and intake.

This is really helpful guys - many thanks. Having used the Cayman club as a fantastic source of information I have decided to go for the following: Step 1. De snork + Evo Filter + AWE cat back Step 2. Milltek Headers + Revo stage 2 re-map Sadly I will need to do each stage at a different dealer here in the UK. Hopefully its a good plan! If you think its a mistake let me know asap!! Terry

Lets hope any price offering will be a more realistic one than that offered by others, else no way I will be wasting $ for something with a minor improvement.

DaveW This is an email I received from George at REVO. Chad All of our software has the ability to switch. You simply need to purchase one of our switching devices in order to achieve it. The SPS select includes 91 and 93 octane programs. The SPS Select-Plus actually allows one to TUNE their car to a specific driving environment. The Select-Plus features boost, fuel, timing and throttle sensitivity adjustments so it has MUCH more range than simply switching between two octane based programs. You should probably decide which is the best option for you. The SPS-select retails for $199.00. The Select-Plus retails for $349.00. This is over and above the cost of the programming As for the various stages, yes, you can get the Stage-1 file now and then upgrade to the Stage-2 program later. You would then only have to pay the difference, $50.00, and any flash fee the local dealer my implement. I will have a dyno shortly of a Cayman S with a Milltek exhaust and intake making 335-340 hp on our standard flash. Once I get it I'll forward you a copy. Regards- George Osmun Sales Director / North America [phone removed] (office) [phone removed] (mobile) [email removed] www.revotechnik.com

yeah, notice he says 1) swich between different octane programs and 2) exhaust and inake on standard flash. Which is what I was saying as well. The standard flash is more than flexible enough for basic bolt-ons. make sure you post the dyno plots when you get them please.... dw

Here it is!!

It would be nice if they posted the actual rear wheel horsepower and not their projected engine horsepower ccc4321 as without knowing what their drivetrain loss calculation is there's no way to compare it to other dyno runs of other modified Caymans.

that is the dyno from my car. If you look it says craig rosenman, at farnbacherloles. I have posted this previously.

craignyc, Sorry I didn't spot that. So did they ever give you actual rear wheel numbers in addition to projected crank horsepower? Especially before and afters for each separate modification?

not yet, but I am putting the underdrive pulley on this week and will have it re-dynod and I will get wheel hp. Also FL does it's own tweaking of revo software.

My experience... Agree with K-Man S on the baseline issue. However, I have the Revo Stage II software with a similar setup on my Cayman RS project car (full Milltek exhaust, BMC foam air filter instead of a cone intake, de-snork mod, MantisSport pulley) and the car is pretty damn perky. Farnbacher Loles did the tuning. No one should expect miracles with reflash on a n.a. car, but if you're trying to wring every last little bit of h.p, out of the thing, it can certainly help at the margins. If you make the purchase with that in mind, you'll be happy with either Revo (which I also had on my GT3 Evo) or GIAC. Lee in D.C.

I just posted what I was sent from George Osmun at Revo. Maybe Farnbacher Loles can answer that question.

Craig, What underdrive pulley crank or accessories?

Thanks for the Revo update. I agree as well, RWHP is what we want to see. Correction factors are "guesstimates". Are any of you going to be at FBL for in early March for the Zone 1 Tech Tactics? I'd like to hear the feedback on the PS underdrive pulley as well.

FL uses the mantis pulley.