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987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

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YOUR RESEARCH987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

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Clean front vvt solenoids

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I cleaned the front vvt solenoids and replaced the rears and it hasn't misfired since.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new
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Check things out

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reading and otherwise check things out when I return for my annual service in a couple months...

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new
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Leading evidence: 'Clean front vvt solenoids' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check things out' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace air oil separator (

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(unfortunately now long gone.) During my ownership I replaced the air oil separator (

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Replace rears and it hasn't misfired since

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No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I cleaned the front vvt solenoids and replaced the rears and it hasn't misfired since.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Use zero

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was changed it used zero.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Check things out

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Suggestion

reading and otherwise check things out when I return for my annual service in a couple months...

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new
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Check things out

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Suggestion

reading and otherwise check things out when I return for my annual service in a couple months...

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Clean front vvt solenoids

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I cleaned the front vvt solenoids and replaced the rears and it hasn't misfired since.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Replace air oil separator (

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

(unfortunately now long gone.) During my ownership I replaced the air oil separator (

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Replace rears and it hasn't misfired since

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I cleaned the front vvt solenoids and replaced the rears and it hasn't misfired since.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Use oil

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Suggestion

My subsequent issue is that for the first time in its life the car is now using oil, it's drinking about half a litre in 5000km.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new

Use zero

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

was changed it used zero.

987 Air Oil Separator - experiences old and new
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POST 1Original post

My first Porsche was a 2005 Cayman S (unfortunately now long gone.) During my ownership I replaced the air oil separator ( AOS ), just like many owners and many on Planet-9. I recently bought a 2007 Boxster S with 75,000 miles on it, and it had the original AOS . It was not long before the smell of oil permeated the cabin on every drive, and almost every drive produced a Check Engine Light with P2187 and P2189 errors (generic too lean condition at idle, banks 1 and 2). I immediately suspected the AOS even though there was no "white smoke" on cold start as is often the telltale sign of a problem. Apart from the rather non-specific CELs, the idle was irregular, and the car ran rough at idle, and was hard to take off at a traffic light in1st gear, feeling like it was about to stall. (I share these "symptoms" in case you have experienced, or are currently suffering from, them. The way the AOS is connected to the intake makes it a perfect cause for a too lean condition. The air intake system runs as follows: air filter, MAF, throttle body, AOS returns, plenum. The pressure and air flow in the intake after the throttle body creates a vacuum in the AOS which separates the crankcase air and oil and returns the (hopefull not oily) air to the intake. My MAF was clean and dry (no oil residue), but the AOS return pipes were full of oil, the classic sign of AOS failure. Upon inspection it looked like the AOS might have "sprung a leak" and was letting oil return to the intake as well as excessive air into the intake causing the lean condition. The ECU / DME was struggling to keep the A/F ratio in good shape, but just couldn't. The new AOS has given the Boxster a totally new feel - smooth idle and smooth running, with the sensation of more power coming on without hesitation. Replacing the AOS is not easy (much easier in a Cayman than a Boxster !), but it can be done with patience and a review of the video how-tos on YouTube. On 987s with high miles like mine, I consider it a preventative and prudent repair. I hope this little note might help someone.

POST 2Original post

The preemptive repair is a good idea, and I did exactly that, but then here's the story... I have a 2008 987.1 Boxster 2.7, and last year, even though there were no symptoms of failure, I had the AOS pre-emptively changed. (I also did the same with the water pump and thermostat. I had the indy shop use Porsche parts rather than aftermarket.) Mileage was about 104K kms when the work was done. My subsequent issue is that for the first time in its life the car is now using oil, it's drinking about half a litre in 5000km. I know that's not much, but until the AOS was changed it used zero. Does anyone know what the cause might be? Maybe a defective unit? Might it be drawing oil from the crankcase? I will definitely have the workshop do a manometer reading and otherwise check things out when I return for my annual service in a couple months... but if anyone has any suggestions or has experienced something similar it would be great to know more before I go in.

POST 3Original post

AOS , bore scoring and oil starvation are the downfalls of 987S. Your workshop manometer might spot a higher than spec vacuum reading.

POST 4Original post

My relatively new to me 07 CS smokes on startup but not every time. I changed the AOS and there was some oil in the return hoses so it might have been bad but replacing it didn't fix the issue. About every 6th or so time I start the car I will get a lot of billowing smoke that lasts until I back out of the driveway. Otherwise most of the time it starts without any smoke. Doesn't seem to matter how cold it is or how long it sits between starts. Before I did the AOS I was also getting an occasional misfire on startup so I took out the vvt solenoids and tested them. I cleaned the front vvt solenoids and replaced the rears and it hasn't misfired since. But I still get the white smoke every once in a while. I have vaccum from the oil fill tube so I don't think it's bore scoring unless it's only one cylinder and the engine has to stop with that piston in the right place to let oil leak by. Does the AOS not work correctly in some conditions? Could a new AOS be bad? I have 64k miles. What else can it be? Thanks everyone

POST 5Original post

Flat6innovations.com should help you out. There is a full 6 video listing on that web site about bore scoring.

POST 6Original post

I'm not a flat 6 expert (yet) but do read a lot and love to tinker with my '06. I don't think an occasional burst of white smoke is a sign of trouble. especially when you describe it happening every 6th start, that could be just condensation in the exhaust . could be, not saying it absolutely is, but if you had a serious problem then it would be more consistent.

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