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Relative car noob/new enthusiast here: After watching hours of Doug Demuro, I ran into a video where he praises
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In my opinion, you wont find a better used sports car for the price.
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Things I've done to mine include - replacing engine and transmission, replacing the stock
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I have found that changing oil frequently (every 6-8 months) is key to the life of these early M97 engined cars.
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Relative car noob/new enthusiast here: After watching hours of Doug Demuro, I ran into a video where he praises
911
996 as the best
Porsche
. I went further along this rabbit hole and now I am starting to become interested in trying out
Porsche
ownership on a budget after watching Hoovie's garage score a 996 and praise the hell out of it.
Considering how old 996 is, I don't want it, I'd prefer something newer and cheaper so I started looking into
Caymans
and Boxsters. I personally prefer
Cayman
look to
911
look anyway (heresy, I know). I have also never owned an RWD car or a sports car (my GTI being the closest to something sporty), so I figured starting small makes sense. So far I have owned/driven a GTI, a Model S,
Audi
A5, a Fiat Uno (lol). Looking to dip my toes into something more serious.
I see listed on cargurus 2005-2008
Caymans
and Boxsters for sale for between $14k-$28k depending on the mileage and trim. Are they worth it? What to expect if I buy one? Any serious issues I should be aware of? Are they reliable enough? With this budget, I do have enough money left to spend on a lot of servicing, but I would prefer not to if at all possible. Any other years or models similar to this that I could look at? I would prefer a
Boxster
since this car would be a summer car only anyway, and considering I live in Seattle, I would probably only drive it 4-5 months a year, but doesn't really matter much.
I would say they can be a good deal if you know what you are getting. Do a lot of searches here on
IMS bearing
, bore scoring, oil starvation. The
M96
/97 engine is not one of
Porsche
's best. Saying that, I have a
987.1
Boxster
with a rebuilt 3.8L engine. Handling-wise they are very good.
#1 piece of advice is to get a proper PPI by a good mechanic who understands the
M96
enigne.
This is not to scare you away, but more to let you understand potential problems. If you don't track your car, are observant of doing scheduled servicing, and have some luck you can find a good car that will give you driving enjoyment for years. I bought mine with 114k miles but required a valve job. That's where I went with a replacement engine.
Things I've done to mine include - replacing engine and transmission, replacing the stock
PCM
(
Porsche
info-tainment system) with aftermarket, upgrading clutch, intake, throttle body, clutch. Adding
DSC
Module for my
PASM
(active suspension) is probably one of my most favorite mods. Now am currently changing bumpers to
GT3
-style and repainting from Arctic Silver to GT Silver.
I have had both the
987.1
a
2008 Cayman S
and a
987.2
a 2010
Cayman S
, both great cars, if you do decide to track I would defiantly go with the
987.2
a 2009-2012
Cayman
, the potential for problems is far less, and will most likely end up costing you less over time, one thing to consider with a
987.2
base non S version is the performance is very close to the
987.1
S model, good luck with your search, with a proper PPI there is no bad choice.
Bryson - schell makes an excellent comparison of these two models. However, location and availability of the car is key. Many more
987.1
S models were made than other models combined, so buy the best one for your needs and have a PPI done. In Seattle, you can use your
Boxster
year around, it just takes more energy to keep it clean in the winter months. I have found that changing oil frequently (every 6-8 months) is key to the life of these early M97 engined cars. You get what you pay for.
Amazon
can supply you will all the engine oil/filers you need at very reasonable prices for the life of your car. I recommend
Mobil 1
"FS" brand 0W-40, again changing it often per Jake Raby @ flatsixinnovations.
I don't think you said what your budget. You also don't say what you intend to do with this car. Daily Driver, DE, AX, ??
Define your need and budget and you get better help.
I would not buy anything lower than an
987.1
and
981
would better still.
Take a look at them and see if you can afford one. If not save until you can or expect to have problems that will cost you the different anyway.
Widen your search to nation wide. Then if you find one that fits your needs, google a
Porsche
Specialty shop in the car's neighborhood. Ask if they could do a PPI for you, then have the owner take the car over to them. You can ask a good number of questions directly to the mechanic who is going to do the PPI. Ask pointed questions about the car's running condition. The compression and the bore scope. Any signs of oil or smoke on the
exhaust
, etc. Pay the $250. and you are good to go if the report comes out well. I would look for
PASM
and SC as these two up grades may serve you well in the future (see slippery slope below). TPC makes a
DSC
for the
PASM
, which gives an older car great handling response, while SC adds more throttle response.
Say $22,000 for the car and $2000 for delivery and PPI. That leaves you $4000 for later. Get to know your car and expand your usage to include a drivers skills course by
Porsche
in Bremerton (May 2). This is excellent way to push the envelop and understand some areas of racing you might want to explore. PNWR is the web site. Look under at the track header. They also offer tours which are a blast as well. Look up tours headed by Bill Bauer, you will not be disappointed. These are of minimal expense as is Autocross, then HPDE costs more, $300/day plus insurance.
Upgrades to your car is on you though and can be expensive. Its called a slippery slope. You can make your investment into the sports car your truely love and enjoy. Take your time and do it wisely.
I just bought a
987.2
base about a month ago. I love the car!!. This thread was extremely helpful to me........
987 Cayman and Boxster Buying Guide
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Good luck.
all good advice above...
decide what you want in terms of transmission & options that are important to you if you prefer fully loaded cars.
trust me though, even the most basic non-S cars are are a hoot to drive!
biggest differences are the
PDK transmission
from 2009/2010 onwards and revised engines.
if you want a flat 6 or a turbo 4 will also determine the model as the turbo 4's were only avail in the
718
generation.
these cars are probably 10 years old or more and at that age though you must be prepared to spend some money to do it up or put aside for a rainy day. Not necessarily major issues, just age and wear and tear.
happy shopping!
Having owned a 2015
Cayman
with manual transmission and now a 2014
911
with
PDK
, my ideal car (based on value, performance and looks) would be a
981 Cayman
S with
PDK
. I love the handling of the
Cayman
but it needed the extra power of the S. And, the
PDK
is unbelievable!
Hey Bryson. Simply put, you cant go wrong with a
Porsche
, regardless of model. They are incredible cars. NOTHING drives like a
Porsche
, period. That said, you've received some good advice already. Do your research as certain years of certain models have more issues than others. Research will lead you to particular years. In terms of models, I have owned both a
Cayman S
and
911
S and they both incredible. I prefer the
911
, but recognize there's a barrier to entry in terms of price with these cars. That said, my first
Porsche
was an 08
Cayman S
. In my opinion, you wont find a better used sports car for the price. I live in Portland, and I wouldn't buy a Boxter in this neck of the woods. As you well know, we just don't get enough good weather in the NW. Admittedly, I think the
Cayman
looks way better anyway.
Generally speaking, Porsches are very reliable cars. BUT you have to do your homework in order to avoid
IMS
, bore scoring type issues, and YOU MIUST GET A PPI. For $200-$300 you can get a full inspection and have your bores scoped with a camera. There are well maintained
Caymans
and Boxters out there. BE SELECTIVE. Find one that is up-to-date with it's major services, has lower miles, and has been well-maintained and you can buy wth confidence. Enjoy the search and don't rush it! Oh, and you're well on your way to becoming a certified Porschefile.
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