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YOUR RESEARCHAre my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

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In my experience, a tire slipping on a rim is caused by under inflation, combined with aggressive driving.

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Check any dents was

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So I've been chasing down this vibration issue, and something I noticed when taking my car to get the rims checked for any dents was that my center caps which I had recently aligned perfectly were now misaligned.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So I've been chasing down this vibration issue, and something I noticed when taking my car to get the rims checked for any dents was that my center caps which I had recently aligned perfectly were now misaligned.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Use piece of chalk and marked a straight line

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So, to double check I used a piece of chalk and marked a straight line on each tire down to the center of the wheel.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Check i

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So, to double check I used a piece of chalk and marked a straight line on each tire down to the center of the wheel.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Check later

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A better way to check this is to mark the tire at the location of the valve stem and then check later to see if the mark on the tire has moved in relation to the valve stem.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So I've been chasing down this vibration issue, and something I noticed when taking my car to get the rims checked for any dents was that my center caps which I had recently aligned perfectly were now misaligned.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Check i

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So, to double check I used a piece of chalk and marked a straight line on each tire down to the center of the wheel.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Check later

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A better way to check this is to mark the tire at the location of the valve stem and then check later to see if the mark on the tire has moved in relation to the valve stem.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Check tonight and report back

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Suggestion · Original poster

I'll re-check tonight and report back.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Recommend seeing if you can find someone/someplace

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Suggestion

I believe this was suggested in your other thread, but I would recommend seeing if you can find someone/someplace that would let you briefly borrow a set of replacement wheels (for at least your fronts) to confirm that your vibration issue lies with either your rims or tires.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Use bias ply tires

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Suggestion

We used to have this problem, when we were using bias ply tires.

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Use piece of chalk and marked a straight line

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So, to double check I used a piece of chalk and marked a straight line on each tire down to the center of the wheel.

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Use tapatalk

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Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

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Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

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Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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under inflation, combined

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In my experience, a tire slipping on a rim is caused by under inflation, combined with aggressive driving.

Are my tires supposed to rotate on the rim? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey everyone - So I've been chasing down this vibration issue, and something I noticed when taking my car to get the rims checked for any dents was that my center caps which I had recently aligned perfectly were now misaligned. So, to double check I used a piece of chalk and marked a straight line on each tire down to the center of the wheel. Much to my surprise, both wheels on my passenger side had rotated almost 360 degrees over the course of a 20 minute drive. Is this normal? Could this be causing my vibration issue at highway speeds and overly jerky steering on poor roads?

POST 2Original post

So, you think your tires are spinning on the rim, as opposed to your center caps spinning in the wheel? Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

POST 3Original post

It is completely normal for a tire to rotate on the rim (to some degree). With that being said, 360 deg in 20 mins seems somewhat excessive. And yes, this could easily cause an out of balance situation. The wheel and tire are balanced with the tire at a certain location. If the tire was to creep around the rim, then the weight might not be in the correct location in relation to the tire causing an out of balance condition. A better way to check this is to mark the tire at the location of the valve stem and then check later to see if the mark on the tire has moved in relation to the valve stem.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I'm pretty certain, but I'll try again tomorrow by marking the valve stem.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 579841

Good idea - I'll retest again tomorrow and see if it is still just as bad. What could be causing this? An issue with how the tire was mounted? Or maybe a defect with the rim?

POST 6Original post

While I won't argue with stone, I would clarify that, while it may happen, it's not supposed to. In my experience, a tire slipping on a rim is caused by under inflation, combined with aggressive driving. If a tire has rotated on a wheel, it is no longer balanced. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Tire are at 29 psi in the front and 36 in the rear, cold. My drive today was not aggressive - just from Home Depot back to home, kept her under 4k rpm the whole time.

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wow! tire should not slip or move around the wheels/rim. Like other mentioned if too low tire pressure and aggressive driving will make that happen. But with 29psi and just driving on local street, tire should not slip from the rim.

POST 9Original post

With a clean rough bead and proper mounting a tire should not move on the rim under normal driving. Drag race cars have this issue on hard launches but thats with 500+ hp and sticky rubber

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Drag race cars with 500hp don't have this problem any longer, hehe. We used to have this problem, when we were using bias ply tires. But with the advent of drag radials, it takes a lot more than 500hp to spin the tire on the rim. Offroad / rock crawlers have this problem a ton, because they air down to 8-12psi. That's why they have what's called a "beadlock" on them.... because they don't want tires spinning on the wheel either. Again: if your tires are slipping on the wheel, this should be corrected. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

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Yep - agree 100%. Always chuckled when I ran Toyo Proxy R888s and how much they moved around a rim... particularly rear. I'd index when mounting new and see how quickly I could get one to rotate 360 degrees around...

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God, I hope this solves my vibration issue... it has been driving me absolutely insane.

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I'm guessing it took you more than 20 minutes?

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While I love the idea of my car having 500+ hp, I'm gonna guess that is not the case... I'll get this looked at. Thanks!

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I believe this was suggested in your other thread, but I would recommend seeing if you can find someone/someplace that would let you briefly borrow a set of replacement wheels (for at least your fronts) to confirm that your vibration issue lies with either your rims or tires. And for the record, I'd have never guessed that your tires were spinning on the rims. Good catch...

POST 16Original post

I seriously doubt yours tires are rotating on the rim. I've never heard of it and I've been around cars and tires a long time.

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It does happen. If he chalked them, it's kind of hard to mistake.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I found it hard to believe too, but I cannot think of any other reason why the chalk marks would be moving.

POST 19Original post

Are you saying you put a continuous line of chalk on both the tire and the wheel, and after driving some distance the chalk line "split" into two lines on the same tire/wheel? Or are you saying you marked lines on your front and rear tires, and after driving they are no longer aligned in the same direction? This instance, along with center caps, are impossible to keep aligned from front to rear because your front and rear tires are different sizes. And they won't stay aligned passenger side to driver side, because when you make a turn the outside wheels turn more than the inside wheels. But if it's the first case, where the single line on one tire/wheel splits into two, that's freakin weird man.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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You know, I think I need to re-do my test. I had some doubts while I was falling asleep last night and this morning I checked and my center caps are a bit loose on that side compared to the other. I'll re-check tonight and report back.

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