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Replace theirs at some point as a matter of course

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I had understood that MAF sensors were consumable on this car, ie most people will replace theirs at some point as a matter of course?

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We've run the oiled one on our C2 for almost 9months and had plenty of others we installed/sold without issues

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I had understood that MAF sensors were consumable on this car, ie most people will replace theirs at some point as a matter of course?

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Run oiled one

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We've run the oiled one on our C2 for almost 9months and had plenty of others we installed/sold without issues

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sorry haven't read past threads on topic, but which is best out the two intakes for performance and no MAS problems. The Evo or K&N FIPK intake? Thanks JW

POST 2Original post

I have an Evo V-flow ands have no problems, but regardless, if you over-oil/incorrectly oil your K&N filter, then you will trash your MAF... treat with care.

POST 3Original post

or you can ask EVO to send you those new "Paper Cone Filter" no more oiling.....

POST 5Original post

Here you go http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=93 there are some other Brands that make em too. I dont think K&N has got one yet. I dont know whihc one EVO supplies, probely their own...

POST 6Original post

Can't get the link to work....or is it just AOL?

POST 8Original post

We've run the oiled one on our C2 for almost 9months and had plenty of others we installed/sold without issues It's more an issue IF you try to clean it and re-oil it and put too much on. The MAF issue is one that's on the turbo cars and not on the NA cars...

POST 9Original post

So why not just do a search and read the past threads? BTW, cast my vote for the Evo, but be forewarned that I don't use either one.

POST 10Original post

There is no data (an actual study with some real sample sizes) to say which is better or if they actually improve performance. There are plenty of "feelings" though. BTW, there is a study about oil on MAFs and there is no effect : http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairfindings.htm As Sharky says...the main issue with MAFs and intakes is on turbos.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just talked to GMG racing and he said the evo intake is in his words extremely loud. Anyone have one and noticed this?

POST 13Original post

Not really no. If you're on it flooring it past 4000 rpms all the way to redline it has a "wail" of sorts. Everyone I know likes it.

POST 15Original post

I have one and have no complaints, so his experience does not reflect mine.

POST 16Original post

Why even bother with an oiled-filter to begin with when there is no measurable performance gain compared to a non-oiled filter? We know oil will contaminate and can ruin the MAF, that debate ended a long time ago. Yes, read their webpage and then ask K&N about the Porsche owners (there is more than one) they've reimbursed for damaged MAFs caused by their oiled filter.

POST 17Original post

I had understood that MAF sensors were consumable on this car, ie most people will replace theirs at some point as a matter of course?

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The evo system is twice the cost of a k&n fipk. Just curious of the evo warrants twice the price?

POST 19Original post

I've had a K&N 63 series intake on my car for 6 months and I've never had a problem.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The question is which delivers the most performance for the buck, the k&n fipk is twice the cost of the evo system. Anyone have hard facts on the two? Thanks.

POST 21Original post

I have the K&N kit and didn't know better to remove the access oil that it is stored with when it comes from the manufacturer. I got a CEL and simply removed the MAF, sprayed it with electronic contact cleaner, and replaced. No further problems.

POST 22Original post

I had the Fabspeed intake intalled in my car for a while and had no issues, I love the sound of the engine above 4k rpm..they claim a small increase in hp.. I really dont think that any brand of intake will give you significant gains, only a nicer sounding engine..

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for your reply, I am past the oiling issue, just trying to figure out if one performs better than the other and for the money. Thanks

POST 24Original post

I never dynoed the intake separately. On A dynojet 248C, my baseline was 270.1 rwhp peak @ 6200 rpms completely stock. With the K&N 63 series and a pair of used Fabspeed Muffers I made 292.1 rwhp peak @ 6600 rpms. So, yes I made a true 22 rwhp increase from just an intake and mufflers. This works out to a gain of 25 hp at the flywheel (net). I was 15 rwhp higher than my baseline at 4400 rpms and almost 30 rwhp higher at the limiter with the intake and exhaust. I have asked many times, but no one has yet been able to show an independant dyno from the EVO intake for comparison.

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