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Heard on Radio 2 yesterday, Police are advising drivers, of top end luxury cars, to use Old Skool, security devices, from the 90s, because, car thieves are so up to date, with hacking modern alarms. Found mine in the shed, dusted off, and coming to Europe with me. Last time used, in a Mazda 323 Turbo 1987.

That's just what I used in my GT3 - not much room to swing it around though is there.....

Does the GT3 have keyless entry? I think that's what they are referring to.

Rawhide said: Does the GT3 have keyless entry? I think that's what they are referring to. No but some of the places, I'm staying in Spain, are remote, so not taking chances. So what your saying is its just the new Keyless stuff, that's getting nicked

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keep it lit said: .....hang on.....what if they bring their own steering wheel?

I was always carry a spare, doesn't everyone?

rallyeman said: Heard on Radio 2 yesterday, Police are advising drivers, of top end luxury cars, to use Old Skool, security devices, from the 90s, because, car thieves are so up to date, with hacking modern alarms. Someone told me that the other day and I nearly laughed my conkers off. In the 80s and 90s, serious car thieves used to get past most of those devices in less than 30 seconds and sometimes less time than it took to put them on. If someone is going to take the time to get past modern security and defeat the satellite tracking system (standard equipment since the 997 launched remember, and they have no way to know if it is registered and in use), a krooklock is not really going to hold them back is it...?

Defeating a tracker is a flick of a switch stuff. Despite what you do, if someone wants your car they will take it.

I had an Escort RS turbo in the early 90s and had a huge amount of security on it, both mechanical and electronic. It didn't stop them. They just pulled it onto a low loader! You could see the 2 black skid marks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpBYcM06Sk

Orangecurry said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpBYcM06Sk should be a no cost option standard fit on every car !

Think this old skool and works well if linked to the doors opening! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQbHnLSasfQ

Think this old skool and works well if linked to the doors opening! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQbHnLSasfQ

Uck it! I'll leave it at home. If I remember rightly seeing back in the day on Watchdog, or similar, that type pictured above was only one that they really struggled with. Maybe Iim wrong? Edited by rallyeman on Wednesday 23 July 22:13

Don't laugh. I have one of the old Disk locks that encapsulate the steering wheel completely. IIRC correctly they took a lot of brute force and an angle grinder to remove, if you didn't have the key. I will be dusting it off and looking for the key as it will be ideal for a new hot hatch we have arriving next month. The lock last saw service on my 96 Golf Gti

Any source on this? BMWs excluded, i thought it was almost impossible to nick a modern car, hence why people get their keys nicked. In fact, had a SLK taken because they removed our kitchen window, grabbed the keys and sauntered over to the car and drove off.

keep it lit said: What brand of quick disconnect is that?

I always thought the gear lever locks that were actually fitted to the car (welded on underneath in the tunnel) looked to be one of the most effective devices, convenient to use too. Similar thinking to the old Saab ignition switch by the gear lever where you had to be in reverse to remove the key - much harder to force that kind of lock than a steering lock.

AW10 said: What brand of quick disconnect is that? One that won't pass an MOT because no horn. I have ones that incorporate the horn on my two 911s - made in Japan & top-notch quality

DiscoColin said: rallyeman said: Heard on Radio 2 yesterday, Police are advising drivers, of top end luxury cars, to use Old Skool, security devices, from the 90s, because, car thieves are so up to date, with hacking modern alarms. Someone told me that the other day and I nearly laughed my conkers off. In the 80s and 90s, serious car thieves used to get past most of those devices in less than 30 seconds and sometimes less time than it took to put them on. If someone is going to take the time to get past modern security and defeat the satellite tracking system (standard equipment since the 997 launched remember, and they have no way to know if it is registered and in use), a krooklock is not really going to hold them back is it...? No, but a Disklok will.

keep it lit said: Orangecurry said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpBYcM06Sk should be a no cost option standard fit on every car ! Is that "an option" or just the dodgy central locking shorting....

I've always thought a hidden fuel pump switch would be a good idea....

nxi20 said: AW10 said: What brand of quick disconnect is that? One that won't pass an MOT because no horn. 996 Cup horn switch on dash

That may be legal but it's not sensible imho. I drive many different cars so I want to know that hitting the centre of the steering wheel will sound the horn in an emergency; I don't need the added hassle of having the horn in a different place.

nxi20 said: That may be legal but it's not sensible imho. I drive many different cars so I want to know that hitting the centre of the steering wheel will sound the horn in an emergency; I don't need the added hassle of having the horn in a different place. ...... ok

thegoose said: I always thought the gear lever locks that were actually fitted to the car (welded on underneath in the tunnel) looked to be one of the most effective devices, convenient to use too. Similar thinking to the old Saab ignition switch by the gear lever where you had to be in reverse to remove the key - much harder to force that kind of lock than a steering lock. Dipol principally, and also Mul-T-lock. Im not sure that Dipol locks are still available, but they were superb.

It's true, the thieves are using advanced electronic tools to get into vehicles and drive them away. It can be done. I proved it recently by bypassing the immobiliser on a modern Toyota in less than 2 minutes. Any electronics engineer with the right tools, software and knowledge can do it. I use a Disklock on my 2013 C63, previously used on my 1991 Toyota Corolla GTi-16.

keep it lit said: I have seen a mechanic at a certain Lotus indy drive cars around on and off the ramps etc. using a pair of grips and a rag to protect the boss.

I had my old Caterham stolen several years ago. They could not start the engine, so they broke the steering lock and wheeled it away. However, the item that defeated these idiots was the racing master battery switch! Yep, the one with the big red key!