GTS and other allocations - Page 4 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

I've got an order in since March this year and I was told to expect a 2 year wait. Given all that is going on with the country it maybe that orders start to get cancelled bringing our waits forward. I thought therefore that it may be useful to have a thread to post confirmed allocations against order dates to see if things start to move up - or at least for those of us waiting to feel ok about it. If nobody agrees then obviously this will die a death.

GT4 Ordered May 22 Build was October 22 but now put back to January 23 Hopefully doesn’t get put back further.

Boxster GTS Ordered April 2021 Spec locked July 2022 Due to leave the factory 26th of October Delivery December (but I’ll probably take it in January/February) Edited by cowboyengineer on Monday 10th October 13:44

Boxster GTS ordered April 22. Advised to expect 18 months to two years. Still on waiting list with fingers crossed.

Bmcgrancab said: Boxster GTS ordered April 22. Advised to expect 18 months to two years. Still on waiting list with fingers crossed. Top lurking.

Boxster GTS ordered July 22, delivery quoted Q1 24. I can wait. Probably.

BGTS ordered in August 2021; no allocation or any firm steer as to when I will get one. Hanging on in there.

Madness. You must all have other lovely motors to keep you going I guess…?

TTmonkey said: Madness. You must all have other lovely motors to keep you going I guess…? Agreed, and that is what I've always assumed. Nobody's gonna sit on their hands driving a random s tbox whilst their new toy takes 18 months to get delivered... Surely?

rawenghey said: TTmonkey said: Madness. You must all have other lovely motors to keep you going I guess…? Agreed, and that is what I've always assumed. Nobody's gonna sit on their hands driving a random s tbox whilst their new toy takes 18 months to get delivered... Surely? Well I'm currently driving a Kia Picanto!

Order Boxster GTS in April '22. Told 18 month wait as an estimate. Swapped to Cayman GTS in June '22 Given allocation and build slot a week later Planned build in December and delivery February '23.

To show how things have changed - I ordered my CGTS 4.0 back at the start of Feb 2020 and it was delivered July 2020. That included a delay the whole of the first lockdown from basically March to June but was pre all the global component shortages.

Seems a pretty consistent wait for a Boxster of something around 2 years with Cayman being possibly a lot less. I will hang on as I intend it to be my last convertible/sports and a keeper while everything goes electric. My only fear is that they never get build as time goes on and on and new model plans come to fruition. I suppose there's every possibility that at some stage the new Boxster electric gets announced and that's the end of that no more allocations while production is shifted. I can't see that they would delay a new model and all the planning that goes with it just to fill what orders are left. I'll be interested to see if the wait times start to fall in the coming months as orders get cancelled. The market does seem to have started to turn on the nearly new cars.

130R said: To show how things have changed - I ordered my CGTS 4.0 back at the start of Feb 2020 and it was delivered July 2020. That included a delay the whole of the first lockdown from basically March to June but was pre all the global component shortages. I ordered a BGTS in Oct 20 was told Delivery would be Mar 21 that turned into June 21, will admit my teeth were starting to itch at that point so I have sympathy for people stuck in a much worse situation, i wouldnt even bother trying now I dont think you will get one

Cayman GTS Ordered: Sept 21 Build: OPC confirmed today it’s due to leave factory 18th Oct Delivery: Early Nov

ChrisW84 said: GT4 Ordered May 22 Build was October 22 but now put back to January 23 Hopefully doesn’t get put back further. Wow didn’t realise it was still possible to get an allocation for a gt4. Walk in off the street or well connected / good history?

OPOGTS said: Wow didn’t realise it was still possible to get an allocation for a gt4. Walk in off the street or well connected / good history? Currently have a GTS and got lucky to be given their next allocation.

Spyder ordered August 2021 Allocation April 2022 Build previously September 2022. Now told October, with delivery in November. Still showing on Porsche system as ready for production…however many times I hit refresh.

NA3pedals said: Spyder ordered August 2021 Allocation April 2022 Build previously September 2022. Now told October, with delivery in November. Still showing on Porsche system as ready for production…however many times I hit refresh. My car said stage 3 scheduled for production for ages then jumped to stage 5 (I now have a chessis number). I have chased the dealer and its at the port waiting to be shipped, will be a couple more weeks... CGTS Ordered in November 21 - originally supposed to leave the factory Sep22, now finally on it's way and expect to collect it by end of October.....

Boxster GTS ordered Sep 22. A guesstimate of 18 months to delivery. Until then I have an Evora Sport 410 for entertainment

rawenghey said: Agreed, and that is what I've always assumed. Nobody's gonna sit on their hands driving a random s tbox whilst their new toy takes 18 months to get delivered... Surely? Currently driving a Dacia Duster…. Love it, cheap as chips to run!

Ordered Jan 22 Build slot confirmed for Oct 22 Delayed until March 23 Cancelled and bought on the used market.

dans160 said: Ordered Jan 22 Build slot confirmed for Oct 22 Delayed until March 23 Cancelled and bought on the used market. Good to hear you landed a car you wanted, no offence meant to any Dacia Duster fans. Liam

Order placed for Cayman GTS 4.0 on 9th September 2022. Expected delivery end-Q1/early-Q2 2023 according to OPC. Massive pinch of salt, this is my 3rd new Porsche sports car, and they haven't turned up very near to estimated time so far. I am used to the extended/unexpected wait, it doesn't bother me in the least. My current "daily" base 2.0 Cayman is less than a year old, and I am enjoying it enormously. I also have a first version GT4 in case there's no salt on the roads. Potential option to swap order for a Cayman GT4 if any allocations become available within timeframe I'm told. Probably of limited interest in my personal circumstances, but who knows? An outside chance if available. I'd love to go for PTS on one of those, but would probably need to sell the 981 GT4, which I am loath to do. It's lovely, and I have bonded with it. Beginning of this year, the BMW 3 Series plug-in hybrid estate I ordered for my wife turned up 4 months earlier than expected. Never sure how all of this works, or doesn't. But hey! There are cars! I like some of them! Life could be worse! Liam

Ordered a Cayman GTS 4.0 in Jan 22: Allocation given in Feb 22 for a June 22 build Car picked up mid Aug 22

I called to an OPC yesterday to see some colour combos and while looking at a Boxster a salesperson asked what I was interested in. I just asked the lead time on a BGTS and was told 18months or more which was no surprise. However, unprompted the warning that anything due to be built around then may not get built due to the new model and this was a warning they’d been giving for a while. This fits with my concerns in the original post . I’m got an M4 that I hoped to keep until the Boxster was due in q1/2 2024 on the original order estimate but I’m thinking now that if I get offered an allocation earlier that I’d better grab it or miss out. Nearly news seem to be falling - there’s a 25 edition that’s dropped £5k in the last couple of weeks. Keeping my fingers crossed that everyone with an order gets what they want.

CGTS 4.0 ordered Nov 21 Allocation May 22 Spec Locked May 22 Car built Oct 22 Target Delivery Nov 22

CGTS ordered and deposit paid June 2022 Supposed delivery Q2 2023 Considered buying new/used due to impatience Man maths and FOMO kicked in heavily Bought 992GT3 new/used October 2022 Cancelled CGTS order October 2022

Ordered BGTS Nov 21. Was told due in May '23 Just cancelled as bought a 997.1 as an interim and loving it. I'd imagine many more will cancel as costs of the car and finance increase.

rossfitz said: Ordered BGTS Nov 21. Was told due in May '23 Just cancelled as bought a 997.1 as an interim and loving it. I'd imagine many more will cancel as costs of the car and finance increase. I think you are right. Another factor maybe a reduction in used prices and perhaps some being sold as a result of financial pressures.

cowboyengineer said: Boxster GTS Ordered April 2021 Spec locked July 2022 Due to leave the factory 26th of October Delivery December (but I’ll probably take it in January/February) Edited by cowboyengineer on Monday 10th October 13:44 Must have one helluva relationship with your dealer if they'll keep it for you unregistered for 1 month plus!

Fnumber1user said: Must have one helluva relationship with your dealer if they'll keep it for you unregistered for 1 month plus! Suspect they might be glad to keep it in the showroom for that time as they all have been a bit sparse lately.

Well I’ve waited 20 months for delivery. Not going to take it at the beginning of December when I’m on holiday for 3 weeks and it will just sit in the drive. I’ve been very flexible with them. They can be a little flexible with me

They said 18 to 24m to me for a Cayman GTS back in Jan.

cowboyengineer said: Boxster GTS Ordered April 2021 Spec locked July 2022 Due to leave the factory 26th of October Delivery December (but I’ll probably take it in January/February) Edited by cowboyengineer on Monday 10th October 13:44 Ditto for me

nutbehinddawheel said: cowboyengineer said: Boxster GTS Ordered April 2021 Spec locked July 2022 Due to leave the factory 26th of October Delivery December (but I’ll probably take it in January/February) Edited by cowboyengineer on Monday 10th October 13:44 Ditto for me

I was extremely fortunate Ordered CGTS 4.0 early November '21 Allocation mid November '21 for a Feb '22 build Collected end March '22.

So, after 14 months of waiting for my new BGTS 4.0, I have made the decision to pull the plug and go pre-owned instead. I spotted a vehicle at an OPC with an almost identical colour scheme and spec to my order with only 970 miles on the clock. While I would have loved a brand new vehicle, the uncertainty over when if ever I would get one (and at what price) meant the final decision was relatively easy (especially given the more than acceptable PX offer for my 981 GTS at a time when there is speculation about used car values dropping). Ultimately, I figured that life is too short to keep waiting, wondering and hoping when I could be out driving the vehicle now. Anyone with an order at East London should now be one place nearer the front of the queue.

Boxsterjon said: So, after 14 months of waiting for my new BGTS 4.0, I have made the decision to pull the plug and go pre-owned instead. I spotted a vehicle at an OPC with an almost identical colour scheme and spec to my order with only 970 miles on the clock. While I would have loved a brand new vehicle, the uncertainty over when if ever I would get one (and at what price) meant the final decision was relatively easy (especially given the more than acceptable PX offer for my 981 GTS at a time when there is speculation about used car values dropping). Ultimately, I figured that life is too short to keep waiting, wondering and hoping when I could be out driving the vehicle now. Anyone with an order at East London should now be one place nearer the front of the queue. So have you actually bought it then? Show us the advert…..

TTmonkey said: So have you actually bought it then? Show us the advert….. Are you doubting me?! Will post pics of the car when it arrives in second week of November.

Boxsterjon said: TTmonkey said: So have you actually bought it then? Show us the advert….. Are you doubting me?! Will post pics of the car when it arrives in second week of November. No not at all. Just would like to see what you bought. Must be mega exciting.

Cayman GTS ordered August 2021, I took delivery last week, so 14 months wait! The salesman told me when I collected the car, the current wait time is 2 years.

TTmonkey said: Madness. You must all have other lovely motors to keep you going I guess…? 981 CGTS just bought as the interim and it’s lovely. But I I have had two BGTS 4.0 cancelled orders offered in the two weeks since I collected it. Quite tempted as they have the LED light option that has now disappeared but the colour combo didn’t work for me as my long term keeper.

Anyone else had cancelled orders offered to them? There was a gentian Boxster 4.0 gts on the Porsche site for the last couple of weeks for delivery in November. Blue leather interior and blue hood not a usual spec but I was surprised it was there so long. Interest on pcp of about 10% is bound to make a difference and cause some cancellations.

undred orse said: Anyone else had cancelled orders offered to them? There was a gentian Boxster 4.0 gts on the Porsche site for the last couple of weeks for delivery in November. Blue leather interior and blue hood not a usual spec but I was surprised it was there so long. Interest on pcp of about 10% is bound to make a difference and cause some cancellations. Are they really charging 10% on PCP now!! Madness talk about profiteering. Having a laugh.

It’s going up to 12% in December.

Surely, those who were even flirting with the top end of their budget to get into these things are going to be dead in the water at 12% PCP.

rawenghey said: Surely, those who were even flirting with the top end of their budget to get into these things are going to be dead in the water at 12% PCP. 12% will be more than double the rate compared to the time of order. I big shock! It's also possible that the balloon payment will be lower, reflecting a weaker used market. That will push up monthly payments in addition to the interest rate rises. It would be interesting to know what proportion of Porsches are financed...it could have a big impact on demand.

The ballon payments are lower so it’s getting quite expensive I locked in at 8.8% but it’s becoming a very expensive car. Saying that I could have not had so many options…..

911hope said: 12% will be more than double the rate compared to the time of order. I big shock! It's also possible that the balloon payment will be lower, reflecting a weaker used market. That will push up monthly payments in addition to the interest rate rises. It would be interesting to know what proportion of Porsches are financed...it could have a big impact on demand. I have no data, but I suspect most are tbh. It's just the way most people operate. Looking at the Approved used site for a 2021 £100k GT4, you're looking at £1.7k/month for 3 years before you've fuelled, insured or taxed it. £58k balloon lol... as if they're going to be anywhere near £58k in 3 years time. Edit: Just realised this is the GTS thread, not the GT4 one

It’s the uncertainty about future values and long wait times, and interest rates, are the reason I cancelled my order and bought a lovely 981 Boxster GTS. 2015 car with 18k on the clock. Instead of a car that was going to cost at least 80k on delivery, which would have been 25k deposit and the rest financed at an ever increasing rate, I put down 20k and took a personal loan at 3.2% for the 25k balance. And after 4 years the car is mine, and no balloon. Ok it’s not new and not a 4.0 with the latest toys. But it’s probably the better option for me as I would struggle to justify the almost double cost of a new car. I wonder how much buyer regret I would have on a car that costs twice as much….?

TTmonkey said: It’s the uncertainty about future values and long wait times, and interest rates, are the reason I cancelled my order and bought a lovely 981 Boxster GTS. 2015 car with 18k on the clock. Instead of a car that was going to cost at least 80k on delivery, which would have been 25k deposit and the rest financed at an ever increasing rate, I put down 20k and took a personal loan at 3.2% for the 25k balance. And after 4 years the car is mine, and no balloon. Ok it’s not new and not a 4.0 with the latest toys. But it’s probably the better option for me as I would struggle to justify the almost double cost of a new car. I wonder how much buyer regret I would have on a car that costs twice as much….? Very nice. That car has no peer at that price. Until the £80k 718 GTS softens by at least £15k, the 981 GTS will remain an absolute bargain.

rawenghey said: 911hope said: 12% will be more than double the rate compared to the time of order. I big shock! It's also possible that the balloon payment will be lower, reflecting a weaker used market. That will push up monthly payments in addition to the interest rate rises. It would be interesting to know what proportion of Porsches are financed...it could have a big impact on demand. I have no data, but I suspect most are tbh. It's just the way most people operate. Looking at the Approved used site for a 2021 £100k GT4, you're looking at £1.7k/month for 3 years before you've fuelled, insured or taxed it. £58k balloon lol... as if they're going to be anywhere near £58k in 3 years time. Edit: Just realised this is the GTS thread, not the GT4 one Just looking at the interest paid, a doubling of finance costs is equivalent to a ~£10K price increase for a £100K car. That £100K car is really £123K car.

I think that anyone who works out the cost of the finance on that at £20k+ is at least going to think twice. It makes a massive difference to the cost and is simply dead money that buys nothing more than what would have cost half as much in terms of interest only a few months ago and which we had got used to for years. I can see lots of orders being cancelled. With all the other costs of life rising and with the car costing substantially more for those financing i suspect many won’t be able to justify it. The question then is what will happen to the waiting time.. I ordered in march with projected delivery not before q1 2024 and I don’t really want it before then but I’ll be reluctant to turn down a slot if offered before as it’s a keeper and my last new car. I have zero interest in or desire to buy electric or hybrids.

Just had a look now and the APR on a 718 is 10.9%. That's almost 4% more than I signed for back in March and 5% more than back in July '20 for my first Porsche!!

911hope said: rawenghey said: Surely, those who were even flirting with the top end of their budget to get into these things are going to be dead in the water at 12% PCP. 12% will be more than double the rate compared to the time of order. I big shock! It's also possible that the balloon payment will be lower, reflecting a weaker used market. That will push up monthly payments in addition to the interest rate rises. It would be interesting to know what proportion of Porsches are financed...it could have a big impact on demand. You just hit the nail on it head…spot on. My opc has always said they sell very few cars which are not financed and the majority are PCP.

GT4RS said: 911hope said: rawenghey said: Surely, those who were even flirting with the top end of their budget to get into these things are going to be dead in the water at 12% PCP. 12% will be more than double the rate compared to the time of order. I big shock! It's also possible that the balloon payment will be lower, reflecting a weaker used market. That will push up monthly payments in addition to the interest rate rises. It would be interesting to know what proportion of Porsches are financed...it could have a big impact on demand. You just hit the nail on it head…spot on. My opc has always said they sell very few cars which are not financed and the majority are PCP. Amazing that so few buyers of expensive cars use finance and also that they use the most expensive form of finance. High interest rates must hurt their sales.

BGTS order form signed and deposit placed 16/11/22 Delivery expected 04/24 but I am quite happy for it to be a bit later as I would like to get as close to the end of production as possible even early 2025, which would tie in nicely with a significant birthday I have a beautifully specced 981S and Macan GTS to run around in anyway. I am in the fortunate position of not having to finance so interest rate or PCP rates are not of a concern.

When I was reading through all the order papers, and cancellation clauses, I noted that they reserve the right to charge an amount for the Silverstone PDE if cancellation takes place after you have attended. Given that this is the first chance you can get a real drive in one as they have no demonstration models, it seems a bit harsh! Has anyone cancelled after the PDE and if so were you charged for the event?

JurassicGTS said: When I was reading through all the order papers, and cancellation clauses, I noted that they reserve the right to charge an amount for the Silverstone PDE if cancellation takes place after you have attended. Given that this is the first chance you can get a real drive in one as they have no demonstration models, it seems a bit harsh! Has anyone cancelled after the PDE and if so were you charged for the event? Interesting you mention this - I did the Porsche experience recently in a pdk GT4 as I have one on order- the thought did occur to me what happens if I think the car is crap and I cancel the order.. .., luckily I thought it was ok! I only went ‘cause it was free but actually it was very informative and the instructor was great.

One of the best sports cars in the world isnt going to suddenly appear to be rejection material after a test drive, unless perhaps you are 4 feet tall or near 7 feet tall and just don’t fit in it properly, or seriously overweight. which would be observable at the show room I guess. It’s just too good a car. I cancelled mine before the PDE and was kind of hoping they might not realise and send me a date anyway. Think I might just buy it myself.

TTmonkey said: One of the best sports cars in the world isnt going to suddenly appear to be rejection material after a test drive, unless perhaps you are 4 feet tall or near 7 feet tall and just don’t fit in it properly, or seriously overweight. which would be observable at the show room I guess. It’s just too good a car. I cancelled mine before the PDE and was kind of hoping they might not realise and send me a date anyway. Think I might just buy it myself. I had just sold my 991 GT2RS- so coming from a 700 bhp twin turbo to a 420 bhp NA GT4 I did think it could be a bit underwhelming in which case I would have cancelled it, however I liked the car.

TTmonkey said: One of the best sports cars in the world isnt going to suddenly appear to be rejection material after a test drive, unless perhaps you are 4 feet tall or near 7 feet tall and just don’t fit in it properly, or seriously overweight. which would be observable at the show room I guess. It’s just too good a car. I cancelled mine before the PDE and was kind of hoping they might not realise and send me a date anyway. Think I might just buy it myself. You misunderstand my question. I was wondering if after you have been on the PDE, a correct specced GTS 4.0 appears in the used car market and you decide to buy that and cancel your order, do Porsche really deduct the cost of the PDE from your £3,000 deposit and if so how much would that be.

I cancelled an order after going on the Pde. No charge was made. I suspect it’s to prevent serial orders/cancellation just to get the pde.

undred orse said: I cancelled an order after going on the Pde. No charge was made. I suspect it’s to prevent serial orders/cancellation just to get the pde. Great, thanks

undred orse said: I cancelled an order after going on the Pde. No charge was made. I suspect it’s to prevent serial orders/cancellation just to get the pde. I had a mate join me as an additional participant on my last 2 PDE days that came with new orders. I tried to gift him the first one, but he felt it was worth every penny at £500ish or whatever it was in 2017, and insisted on paying me back. The price had actually come down a fair bit for the one earlier this year, and yet again he insisted on paying me back for it. As we left PEC Silverstone he said, "Definitely up for this next year, let me know when you have some dates", and I had to point out I hadn't planned to order another new Porsche. My order for a new Cayman GTS 4.0 was placed about a month later... I'm guessing I'll get an invite early next year for the GTS 4.0 PDE day, but have already grabbed a slot for the "Precision" driving experience in my 981 GT4 as well. A morning at the PEC and an afternoon on the race track "proper" with a good instructor just has to be worth it. Outstanding value for money even if you do end up having to pay for it. Liam

Any news on cancelled orders or a slowing of the order book? Might be a bit early for things to really start to change, if indeed they do at all. I'm expecting mine q1 2024 which suits me fine as my current car will be 2 years old then. I really don't want it before but may feel that if I don't take it I won't necessarily have another chance. If it did turn out that I was offered an allocation early could I ask to move down the list? The risk is with so few about I don't then get one before production ends. On another note I'm already a couple of price rises in since ordering probably with another couple to come before delivery at best. My spec is already circa £85k. If that goes over £90k it may start to feel expensive given what I've paid in the past.

undred orse said: Any news on cancelled orders or a slowing of the order book? Just been given a build slot for March - I ordered in May 22 and was told to expect a 2 year wait, so things might be changing.

homerdog said: Just been given a build slot for March - I ordered in May 22 and was told to expect a 2 year wait, so things might be changing. That's positive news for us on a waiting list. Which OPC are you with? Still wondering if it's worth placing a 2nd deposit down with another OPC (one of the Porsche UK owned London ones), but as it would be 2-3 months after my first order am I really going to benefit from it.

homerdog said: Just been given a build slot for March - I ordered in May 22 and was told to expect a 2 year wait, so things might be changing. Will be interesting if you can spec Bose and LEDs yet.

LEDs are available but not LED+ due to the camera issue

JurassicGTS said: Will be interesting if you can spec Bose and LEDs yet. LEDs, but not + (as stated, I think it's the camera that is the problem), and Bose both available to order at the moment. Fingers crossed... Edited by homerdog on Thursday 12th January 18:56

homerdog said: LEDs, but not + (as stated, I think it's the camera that is the problem), and Bose both available to order at the moment. Fingers crossed... Edited by homerdog on Thursday 12th January 18:56 Although Bose is showing on the configurator, it has an x against it, which means currently not available according to my OPC.

JurassicGTS said: Although Bose is showing on the configurator, it has an x against it, which means currently not available according to my OPC. Who knows, my OPC have told me that they have been allowed to order it...

Anyone know when the next batch of allocations are expected? I'm grasping at straws that one will turn up for me - I've been waiting since last March and still being told Q1 2024 which seems no hope given the recent posts that at least 3 OPCs are saying production will end this year. Seems my only chance will be people dropping out ahead of me. I've tried phoning for cancelled orders without success and my spec is individual given it will be a keeper and probably my last new car. I keep hoping for a call and it would be nice to know if there is a time beyond which I can put my hope this quarter to one side. Thanks.

undred orse said: Anyone know when the next batch of allocations are expected? I'm grasping at straws that one will turn up for me - I've been waiting since last March and still being told Q1 2024 which seems no hope given the recent posts that at least 3 OPCs are saying production will end this year. Seems my only chance will be people dropping out ahead of me. I've tried phoning for cancelled orders without success and my spec is individual given it will be a keeper and probably my last new car. I keep hoping for a call and it would be nice to know if there is a time beyond which I can put my hope this quarter to one side. Thanks. I'm selling my Cayman 4.0 GTS in Agate Grey, very nice spec higher than most out there. if interested let me know.

Thanks but I'm after a Boxster. Good luck with the sale.

Carl9729 said: I'm selling my Cayman 4.0 GTS in Agate Grey, very nice spec higher than most out there. if interested let me know. Could be interested, drop me a DM with details would be great.

undred orse said: Anyone know when the next batch of allocations are expected? . I have a BGTS 4.0 order in since beginning November 21. It was a cancelled order slot (not an allocation slot obviously) with an estimated delivery date of March 23. As the time got closer at beginning of this year and still not heard anything regarding an allocation or freeze point. I went in (not for the first time in now 17 months). My OPC thinks they will only get 2 cars this calendar year and I am second. My allocation is therefore likely to be end of 23 and possibly car end 23 / early 24 so over 2 years. Hanging on in there that should still get one, as think the combination of size, engine and convertible is what I really want. There must be big differences with each OPC allocation but many orders most now by at high risk especially with the EV which must be getting close. Bought a 992 S to keep me ticking over till then…