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Checked with H&R that they are one of their authorized dealers as well.
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I have them installed on my 2009 with the SII wheels.
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I use the TireRack for various reasons, one being the manufacture date is usually current, meaning that I am not getting last years
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I highly recommend the ECS spacer kits in 8mm and 14mm.
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I would like to install 7mm and 14mm spacers on my 2009
Cayman
. I have 18"
Cayman S
wheels. I went to FVD.us site and I searched by the year of my car and I get no results for 14mm spacers. Did anything change from 2008 to 2009 that would not allow me to use spacers that were designated for 2008? For 2008 model year they have a boat load of options.
Also, does it make a difference if you get spacers with longer bolts or the ones that first bolt on to the hub, thus allowing to re-use your original bolts?
Thanks
Check out my post on FVD 15mm spacers:
http://www.planet-9.com/porsche-tires-wheels/40200-15mm-spacers-installed.html
The bolt patterns and the factory offset for the wheels are unchanged from '08 to '09. Thus, you will be able to use 15mm spacers on your car without issues. With the 15mm spacers, FVD's set came with new, longer bolts, and they just bolt right up. Only thing you "loose" will be wheel locks. Personally, I don't like wheel locks... they just get into the way or they break, etc - just more trouble to me than they're worth.
This reminds me, I need to stop @ FVD to pick up a set of 5 or 7mm for the fronts.
I highly recommend the ECS spacer kits in 8mm and 14mm. I have them installed on my 2009 with the SII wheels. They fit perfectly without any vibration and are very high quality. Both kits include the bolts and stainless steel screws to secure them to the hub. The 8mm also has a hub extension to facilitate front wheel mounting unlike many of the smaller spacers on the market. They only come in black but this is not noticeable when mounted. They significantly improve the appearance of the car without looking too dramatic. They work perfectly when mounted correctly.
Without additonal camber, you could use 10mm f and 18mm r without rubbing. As far as looking "too"dramatic, the only thing missing is not being flush with the wheelwell looking from either the offset front or offset rear down the side of the car.
Rehashing this....
Do you have to get a realignment after adding spacers?
Also, is this more for aesthetics or does the wider track really help with road holding? What's the minimum added width for this to come into play?
On stock 18s on my
987.2
, what's the max that should be added? Any guidelines? Any difference for
PASM
and non-
PASM
cars?
What are the CONs of adding spacers?
Thanks.
You don't need an alignment after adding spacers. There is a slight advantage in handling with a wider track, it is slightly noticeable if you are really in tune with your car.
The only con is the added rotational mass, figure about 1 lb per corner.
Obviously 7 & 14 mm is a well known solution on 987. Yes you need longer lug bolts. Longer bolts should be included with any quality set of spacers. Lug bolts aren’t something to buy from a no-name online source selling no-name Chinese bits. Besides, fark those peddlers and their questionable sources. Buy a set from a site vendor and you’ll know what you’re getting. It’s been done a million times.
7 & 14 are conservative in offsets, they do not get the
tires
to the flush look of the wheel wells. If you have camber of at least 1.5f and 1.8r, you can add more aggressive spacers of 15f and 18r. These spacers will help you reduce the weight transfer across the car. The only drawback is the spring rate and shock compression/rebound with OEM wheels and
tires
. If you want to push the wheels and
tires
out, you need light weight wheels to offset the mechanical torque on the shocks. This is where coilovers with high spring rates and shock valving to manage the additional track width from the spacers.
I'm not sure what my camber is.. that said, I'm lowering with
Bilstein
B8 and R springs now. What's camber should I go with on the lowered setup or just leave it to the alignment guys?
For spacers, I don;t want to go too wide, its just a looks thing for me. I did read about the compression/rebound/mechanical torque stuff you mentioned but I don;t quite understand all of that. Given its more looks and not track performance for me, I think I'll go with 7/14 or at most 8/15 which is what many here who have gone with spacers seem to be running as well.
You can order -1.4f and -1.8r camber without adding either camber plates or adjustable LCA's. This camber will help you with canyon driving keeping your outside rubber square to the road surface while cornering. Usually, with 0 toe in front and toe in 10 minutes in the rear, you will have little inside shoulder wear.
Any one know the difference in HR models? There's DR, DRS, DRM etc and then there's H&R Trak+
The website doesn;t quite say what the difference is apart from width applications...
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From your messages, I believe that you are a little more aggressive than most, not a bad trait, but just wanting to get the most out of your car. So, with a tire tread gauge or coin, measure the inside tread ribs and out side ribs. Put that measurement away for about 6 months, then remeasure both on all 4 wheels. You might find that you are wearing the inside a little more. If thats the case, have you
tires
rotated on the wheels. My tire place charges $95. for remounting and balancing. You might be less or more. The good part of this is the rebalance. I find my
tires
do need this after a while, either because of wheel weights falling off or just uneven wear.
I use the TireRack for various reasons, one being the manufacture date is usually current, meaning that I am not getting last years
tires
. Second is the availability of RE71R's,
Michelin
P4S's and Hoosier A7's. They carry my special fitment, and send that set to a local install dealer that I chose due to their balancing equipment. So, I do pay a little more for this specialized balancing service, but its worth it. No steering wheel shake.
Has anyone dealt with CarTuningPoint out of Germany?
They have a complete H&R spacer set I'm looking for.
While I'll have paypal protection, will be good to hear from someone who has dealt with them.
Thanks.
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Running 30 mm rear spacers may require a couple of additional mods to allow the
tires
to extend fully into the wheel well. Rear camber to -2.1 using all of the available OEM adjustment and having your rear fender lips rolled in and up. I am only talking about the 6 to 8 inches at the top of the wheel well arch. Its not a big deal, but 30 mm spacers will cause fitment issues if you are using 43 OEM offset rear wheels. I have had success with 23 mm rear spacers and the 43 offset OEM rear wheels with
Michelin PS4
's 275/35/18. Each tire has its own measurement across the face, so you will need to know how far out the tread shoulders are in comparison to the wheel facing. Lastly, pushing out the rear wheel will also put more wheel weight on the OEM suspension components, springs, shocks, rubber bushings and wheel bearings. Make sure you have the correct length lug bolts to assure a full seat attachment.
We will want to see your finished wheel setup.
Lowered by Ohlin coilovers 35mm and -2.5 rear camber with a 23 mm ECS spacers. The Ohlin spring rate of 458 lbs/in help control the extra leverage and weight of the rear wheel spacers.
Thanks for chiming in (again) Apex ... I;m on stock original 18 inch wheel with PS2s 235F and 265R.
When you say 30m spacers, I presume that's on each rear wheel making rear axel 60mm wider or are you referring to 30mm rear axel wider ie each rear wheel 15mm?
My camber is per the attached pic which Im still learning to make sense of. The realignment was done after fitting my Bilstein B8s with R springs which dropped the car about 20 to 25mm. With my current setup and camber, no issue with going 7 or 8mm spacer per per front wheel and 14 or 15mm spacer per rear wheel I hope. If you think otherwise please advise.
Thanks in advance agin for your advice.
Yeah.. your car was one of the references I took.. you're on 23mm per wheel front and rear ie 46mm per axle?
Also, how do you find the ECS spacers. I've narrowed down to ECS and H&R as the price is similar.
Just ordered my set of H&R front 7 and rear 15 spacers in black with black lugs from cartuningpoint. Checked with H&R that they are one of their authorized dealers as well.
Thanks all again for the feedback and guidance.
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