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finding one i can do an extended drive in

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Now the problem is finding one I can do an extended drive in.

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Check front bumper alignment

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If you view the first one check the front bumper alignment.

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Get it inspected by someone with bodyshop experience

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Install after a pot hole incident

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The car has one tyre that’s not ‘N’, which believe it or not the last owner said Porsche fitted after a pot hole incident!

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Replace with normal plastic ones

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No, it’s just that when I first viewed the car it had a set fitted, but just noticed that eiether when they wheels were refurbished or the tyres fitted, they have been replaced with normal plastic ones.

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No, it’s just that when I first viewed the car it had a set fitted, but just noticed that eiether when they wheels were refurbished or the tyres fitted, they have been replaced with normal plastic ones.

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The only downside was that I'd forgotten to ask how to apply the handbrake before I set off.

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The only downside was that I'd forgotten to ask how to apply the handbrake before I set off.

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Check front bumper alignment

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If you view the first one check the front bumper alignment.

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Clean solutions are

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Brake calipers do go grey if strong cleaning solutions are used (have a look at some of the OPCs demo cars!) however, you may be able to bring these back to life with a ceramic coating such a Gyeon Rim.

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Brake calipers do go grey if strong cleaning solutions are used (have a look at some of the OPCs demo cars!) however, you may be able to bring these back to life with a ceramic coating such a Gyeon Rim.

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Inspect by someone

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Get it inspected by someone with bodyshop experience

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Install after a pot hole incident

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The car has one tyre that’s not ‘N’, which believe it or not the last owner said Porsche fitted after a pot hole incident!

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Recommend " paint shop a few months

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It was genuinely mint, I'd even had the front bumper repainted by a "Porsche recommended" paint shop a few months before, so it didn't have so much as stone chip on it.

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Replace added during the 718 lifespan

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Not that many changes added during the 718 lifespan.

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Replace brake pads)

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Agree, whatever the maths says, I think a much better place to land (and less likely you'll be scrabbling around changing brake pads).

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Replace brakes myself

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I’m more than happy to replace the brakes myself, but what is the process with releasing the parking brake at the rear?

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I’m more than happy to replace the brakes myself, but what is the process with releasing the parking brake at the rear?

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Replace given the mileage

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I would have thought the fronts would be the ones needing replacing given the mileage..

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Replace pair, £530

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So I’d like to replace the pair, £530.

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finding one i can do an extended drive in

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Now the problem is finding one I can do an extended drive in.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi I keep getting drawn to this 718. However, not know a great deal (just started looking), what are your thoughts? Thanks https://www.dysoncars.co.uk/cars/porsche/718/2/721...

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Been a while since I configured one of these. Dual climate control Heated seats Red seat belts Multi function steering wheel. Rear wiper? Someone more in the know than me will be along to say if these's are included? Looks lovely in that colour. Personally for me I'd want one with extended leather (Dash, door cards,) as it makes them feel far more upmarket inside. But each to their own. Edited by Trevor555 on Wednesday 14th December 08:10 Edited by Trevor555 on Wednesday 14th December 08:13

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GE90 said: Hi I keep getting drawn to this 718. However, not know a great deal (just started looking), what are your thoughts? Thanks https://www.dysoncars.co.uk/cars/porsche/718/2/721... It’s basic spec in that it’s the basic engine (nothing wrong with that), but there are a bunch of optional extras on that T. They certainly weren’t standard in 2017, at any rate. Edit: hmmm not convinced it is a T actually. T’s had sports chrono by default and that car doesn’t. Edited by Jawls on Wednesday 14th December 11:23 Edited by Jawls on Wednesday 14th December 11:49

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Jawls said: Edit: hmmm not convinced it is a T actually. T’s had sports chrono by default and that car doesn’t. Yeah, I note there's not a T in the title, so perhaps 2 T just stands for 2.0 litre turbo?

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Firstly it is put a T, the T had more options. I think the advertisement is referring to the T as in turbo. It’s not completely basic spec, but it’s had a few options ticked when it was being spec’d.

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It is definitely "just" a base 718 2.0 Turbo, the T wasn't launched until late 2018 and would have unique fabric seat trim and grey alloys. It's a reasonable spec, Carrera S 20" alloys too along with the various options already noted. Not many base Caymans have the extended leather interior as you had to upgrade the seats to leather first. The total cost would be around £2.5k I think.

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Many thanks guys. I know I should drive one next, but reviews seem to criticise the 2.0, suggesting it laggy and not performing as you would expect. I would be coming from an Audi S3, so completely different! Thanks again.

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GE90 said: Many thanks guys. I know I should drive one next, but reviews seem to criticise the 2.0, suggesting it laggy and not performing as you would expect. I would be coming from an Audi S3, so completely different! Thanks again. please We had an S3 before our 2.0T 718 funnily enough. I'd say the 718 was slightly less torquey and responsive at low-ish revs but just keep Sport mode engaged and it's fine. Overall I'd say it was slightly quicker than the S3, it revved a little higher with decent urge all the way through. Hopefully you can get to try one for yourself and see how you get on with the flat four!

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Thanks. Within my car history I owned a number of Subaru's with a flat 4 boxer, an unmistakable sound track!

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GE90 said: Thanks. Within my car history I owned a number of Subaru's with a flat 4 boxer, an unmistakable sound track! Spooky - we had a 1999 Impreza Turbo Loved that thing, had it for three years. Never saw more than 26mpg. The 718 sounds similar - but subtlety different with a definite deeper and harder edge to it.

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Cheers guys. So perhaps this isn’t a T either, although the exhaust looks different? https://www.prestigecarskent.co.uk/used-cars/15027... This is local. Thanks

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GE90 said: Cheers guys. So perhaps this isn’t a T either, although the exhaust looks different? https://www.prestigecarskent.co.uk/used-cars/15027... This is local. Thanks Sunny Tyres on a Porsche? Pirelli & Dunlop also. Only one of them N rated? I know I'm fussy about tyres, but I'd want four matching tyres suited to the car.

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Agreed. Again, I keep getting drawn back to the first one! Is that folding mirrors I see on the first car above? Thanks

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GE90 said: Agreed. Again, I keep getting drawn back to the first one! Is that folding mirrors I see on the first car above? Thanks The first one has dual climate, second one not. I prefer the steering wheel on the second one, more sporty. If you view the first one check the front bumper alignment. I'm not sure if it's a bit off where it meets the wings, inside of the headlights? Compare them both and see what you think. Could be just the photography.

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GE90 said: Cheers guys. So perhaps this isn’t a T either, although the exhaust looks different? https://www.prestigecarskent.co.uk/used-cars/15027... This is local. Thanks T's are listed in AT as Turbos. To find a real T one has to look for the side stripes and the cloth door pulls are the two most identifiable indicators it is a T listing and not a generic Turbo listing. Current T's for you https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212072... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210271... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212132... (though it is not a limited edition model as the ad claims) only 3 available...though % wise that is the norm, there is only ever a few for sale at any given point. Rare model.

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GE90, The second car you linked to has the basic 18" alloys which have been sprayed black, they were only available in silver from the factory. The calipers have also been painted red, they would have been plain black originally. I'm not 100% convinced it actually has sat-nav either. It's a very early 718 and I'm sure sat-nav was optional for the first year or so. As mentioned above though, the mix of tyres is the biggest concern and would be an instant turn off for me. I am intrigued about what kind of service history it has! Edited by mabosh on Wednesday 14th December 23:19

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Agree with those that have said the first one looks nicer. I bought a new one around then. Sat nav wasn't standard, heated seats weren't standard, rear wiper has never been standard, climate control has never been standard (looks like first one has it, second does not, couldn't live without it), sports steering wheel with controls wasn't standard. Red seat belts? Yep, someone paid for them to be red, but they are not going to have to clean them now. If it helps, I've bought another identical one since. First was a 2017 car, latest is a 2021 also as a new car. For the money, they are just brilliant. Ignore anyone that talks down the exhaust note or torque delivery, they are a sublime driving experience and a joy to own. Liam

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Agree with the op, 4 different brands of tyre (2 of which are budget) are not a good sign that of a careful owner. 1st car looks good thought

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Thanks again. So the first one - What colour do we think this is? Does it appear to have folding mirrors? Options seem to be PDK, climate, 20” wheels, multi function steering wheel, rear wiper? Am I likely to be in for any big ticket service items anytime soon? Any opinion on asking price? Any other 718’s known out there, max budget £38k? Cheers

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GE90 said: Thanks again. So the first one - What colour do we think this is? Does it appear to have folding mirrors? Options seem to be PDK, climate, 20” wheels, multi function steering wheel, rear wiper? Am I likely to be in for any big ticket service items anytime soon? Any opinion on asking price? Any other 718’s known out there, max budget £38k? Cheers Mine, I am looking for a GT4 hahaha

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GE90 said: I know I should drive one next, but reviews seem to criticise the 2.0, suggesting it laggy and not performing as you would expect. . This is, frankly, nonsense. I always find the wife’s base Boxster more than rapid enough for normal road use. Leave the gearbox in auto, press the sport button, Robert is very much your mother’s brother.

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Thanks! It’s my intention to drive one as soon as I can. Difficult, as I my S3 is as new and ticks so many boxes, but I just get bored, which is an expensive habit! I’ve always loved the look of the Cayman. Ultimately I’d love a 911, after having hired one in 2014 for my 40th. Trouble is I don’t really appreciate classic - I like modern I’m afraid! My budget won’t stretch to a 2014 or newer 911! Any thoughts on the list of queries in respect of the first car would be very much appreciated.

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GE90 said: Any thoughts on the list of queries in respect of the first car would be very much appreciated. Get it inspected by someone with bodyshop experience

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Might as well buy from Porsche? Cheaper https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

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Hi All I keep getting drawn back to the 18.5k miles 2017 one, and have now sourced a spec list. Any way of knowing which entries are options please? Also, any recommendations for servicing/repairs - I'm in the SE, Bromley. Thanks.

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I think memory is the best way, but my one was made a few months before that one. All of the options I identified in my previous post, but things I noticed on the spec that I had to pay for on my 2017 Cayman 2.0 (noting the bits that come as standard nowadays): Metallic paint Sports tailpipe Electric folding mirrors 64 litre fuel tank Navigation (standard now, but pretty sure it was extra, unbelievably) 20" Carrera S wheels PDK transmission Rear wiper Multi function heated steering wheel Climate control (appears to be the proper one, rather than the basic air con that still comes as standard) Seat belts in guards red Heated seats (now come as standard, but not sure since when) Would have been well north of £50k new, possibly around £55k. Just the wheels, PDK and climate control would have added about £4k to the new price. Seems a very sensible set of options. I know others would go for extended leather interior, but I never have for "base" model Caymans before. Just such a lot of money compared to the base cost of the car in my mind. Liam Edited by LiamH66 on Wednesday 25th January 23:11 Edited by LiamH66 on Wednesday 25th January 23:28

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Thanks very much. So, I viewed this one during the week. Paint depth check confirmed all original paint, in great condition and seems a genuine car. However, and this is no fault of the specific car nor the Cayman, but I was surprised by how ‘agricultural’ it felt after jumping out of my Audi S3. While I absolutely love the look of the Cayman, and would really like to pull the trigger, I’m just not 100% certain. I think it’s a car I need to spend more time in to understand it, and connect? Hard to put my finger on it, but the steering was heavy, and the car noisy, giving the impression of a much less resolved and civilised car? I’m sure this is not the case, but just left me confused. For context, it’ll be a second car to our family wagon, but I’d need to use for some local shortish journeys sometimes. I hired a 204 911 Carrera S for a day in celebration of a big birthday almost 10 years ago and absolutely loved it, but this would be well out of budget! Confused! Thanks

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GE90 said: Thanks very much. So, I viewed this one during the week. Paint depth check confirmed all original paint, in great condition and seems a genuine car. However, and this is no fault of the specific car nor the Cayman, but I was surprised by how ‘agricultural’ it felt after jumping out of my Audi S3. While I absolutely love the look of the Cayman, and would really like to pull the trigger, I’m just not 100% certain. I think it’s a car I need to spend more time in to understand it, and connect? Hard to put my finger on it, but the steering was heavy, and the car noisy, giving the impression of a much less resolved and civilised car? I’m sure this is not the case, but just left me confused. For context, it’ll be a second car to our family wagon, but I’d need to use for some local shortish journeys sometimes. I hired a 204 911 Carrera S for a day in celebration of a big birthday almost 10 years ago and absolutely loved it, but this would be well out of budget! Confused! Thanks There's a cure for that. Get a drive in a 981 GT4 for a few miles. The 718 2.0 will instantly feel very refined in comparison! I have both, and the base 718 feels like a comfy pair of slippers after taking my running shoes off when I get back in it. Much, much quieter too. I often use either of mine for nipping down to the supermarket or the tip. Totally everyday usable, but they are definitely sports cars from the ground up rather than souped up everyday cars. They are refined, but not in the same way as most road cars. And of course if they made them as refined as a 911, they'd risk losing a lot of 911 sales given Cayman price point. I bought my first 718 Cayman 2.0 on the basis of a 60 mile trundle in a similar spec 718 Boxster, on my own in the car. I covered a good array of A roads, B roads, motorway and urban congestion. It was only half way through the drive that I started to get just how competent the car was, and how to get the best from the little turbo 4-cylinder. The only downside was that I'd forgotten to ask how to apply the handbrake before I set off. Almost 7 years on, I still think they are one of the best sports cars ever. You'll probably need more seat time before you can decide. Liam

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LiamH66 said: There's a cure for that. Get a drive in a 981 GT4 for a few miles. The 718 2.0 will instantly feel very refined in comparison! I have both, and the base 718 feels like a comfy pair of slippers after taking my running shoes off when I get back in it. Much, much quieter too. I often use either of mine for nipping down to the supermarket or the tip. Totally everyday usable, but they are definitely sports cars from the ground up rather than souped up everyday cars. They are refined, but not in the same way as most road cars. And of course if they made them as refined as a 911, they'd risk losing a lot of 911 sales given Cayman price point. I bought my first 718 Cayman 2.0 on the basis of a 60 mile trundle in a similar spec 718 Boxster, on my own in the car. I covered a good array of A roads, B roads, motorway and urban congestion. It was only half way through the drive that I started to get just how competent the car was, and how to get the best from the little turbo 4-cylinder. The only downside was that I'd forgotten to ask how to apply the handbrake before I set off. Almost 7 years on, I still think they are one of the best sports cars ever. You'll probably need more seat time before you can decide. Liam Thanks very much - I reckon you’ve nailed it! Now the problem is finding one I can do an extended drive in. The subject car is a good few hours away!

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I just asked my local OPC for a test drive in a new demonstrator. Used cars you nearly always have to have trade plates, and a a salesman in the passenger seat, which generally takes me out of my comfort zone, and limits the time you'll be allowed to take the car out for. New demo cars are generally insured for punters to drive solo. I was really honest with OPC Bolton. My initial interest had been a used 981 Cayman, but then the 718 was announced. I wanted to know what the engine was like both with manual and PDK, and I wanted to know how that compared with the outgoing 6-cylinder cars. I ended up getting quite a few different test drives, but the long one solo drive was in an almost brand new demo manual 718 Boxster. They were perfectly happy for me to have it for a day or 2 if I wanted, but an hour or so was all the time I really had. They were really open with letting me try anything I wanted. It resulted in me ordering a new car, so wasn't a bad bet, but there wasn't any pressure. They somehow got me 2 trips out to the Porsche Experience Centre during the ordering process for the first one too, which was nice. Brings me onto the next point. The PEC at Silverstone is another nice way of experiencing a decent amount of time in the cars with a good instructor, and I think the shorter taster experiences are an absolute bargain. 1/2 day even more worthwhile. Worth considering, as you learn as much about yourself as a driver as you do about the cars you try. Food is great too. Liam

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LiamH66 said: I just asked my local OPC for a test drive in a new demonstrator. Used cars you nearly always have to have trade plates, and a a salesman in the passenger seat, which generally takes me out of my comfort zone, and limits the time you'll be allowed to take the car out for. New demo cars are generally insured for punters to drive solo. I was really honest with OPC Bolton. My initial interest had been a used 981 Cayman, but then the 718 was announced. I wanted to know what the engine was like both with manual and PDK, and I wanted to know how that compared with the outgoing 6-cylinder cars. I ended up getting quite a few different test drives, but the long one solo drive was in an almost brand new demo manual 718 Boxster. They were perfectly happy for me to have it for a day or 2 if I wanted, but an hour or so was all the time I really had. They were really open with letting me try anything I wanted. It resulted in me ordering a new car, so wasn't a bad bet, but there wasn't any pressure. They somehow got me 2 trips out to the Porsche Experience Centre during the ordering process for the first one too, which was nice. Brings me onto the next point. The PEC at Silverstone is another nice way of experiencing a decent amount of time in the cars with a good instructor, and I think the shorter taster experiences are an absolute bargain. 1/2 day even more worthwhile. Worth considering, as you learn as much about yourself as a driver as you do about the cars you try. Food is great too. Liam I had a similar experience with my OPC,very relaxed, my partner and I took a 718 and 718S out for about an hour in each. Very competent but it just didn't gel with us (was to replace a Z4MR), 18 months later was back to place an order on a GTS 4.0. Didn't get a test drive until about 6 months in. Test drive with SE passenger

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Thanks. I’ve reached out to my local OPC, as they have one available. Am I right in thinking that the 2017 base shouldn’t have the twin pipes? Many thanks.

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GE90 said: Thanks. I’ve reached out to my local OPC, as they have one available. Am I right in thinking that the 2017 base shouldn’t have the twin pipes? Many thanks. They can do, they are optional. Have a play with the configurator on the Porsche website and you'll get a feel for what's standard and what isn't. Not that many changes added during the 718 lifespan. Nav added in 2017, heated seats and parking sensors for 2019 spring to mind.

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Right, to update. I spent a little more time in one today, but not nearly enough. Really starting to get a feel for it though. Starting to think I must be odd to be taking time to really ‘understand’ the car! The one today drove great, but had so many issues. Wet front boot, water dropped from sun visor during drive. Upper rear brake light full of condensation. Poor history, just about no options, and signs of bodywork on near side. Also ditch finder tyres! So, going back to the front runner. I managed to find the previous owner on Facebook, and they have been amazingly helpful. Nothing to worry about there, and all seems really good and genuine. So, here’s my thoughts! The car has one tyre that’s not ‘N’, which believe it or not the last owner said Porsche fitted after a pot hole incident! So I’d like to replace the pair, £530. Then there is the matter of the 6 year service in August. One OPC quoted £1800, no plugs (I think these need doing as box not ticked by Porsche as last service). Another OPC £1400, again no plugs. Specialists in the SE are between £800 - £1100, including plugs. However, anyone know if they are able to/typically connect with Porsche to update software? Finally the front pads looked a little low. Not too bad, but I thought I had better factor this in. So, with the full ceramic detail at my detailer, I could be looking at a few £k to get is where I want. Dealer is refurbing all wheels, and will have an MOT done. Cannot stop looking at this photo! The more I learn I think it’s got some reasonable options - PDK, steering wheel, rear wiper, red belts, climate, sports pipes. Any further thoughts? Almost £38k reasonable, with 19k miles and full OPC history? From a used dealer, not specialist, but sold a few. Edited by GE90 on Monday 30th January 20:17

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Well... My first (and similar spec, but manual) 718 Cayman was delivered in May 2017 for about £50k, and traded back to an OPC in October 2018 for ~£36k (I think, wasn't more than that), with a little over 17,500 miles on the clock. It was genuinely mint, I'd even had the front bumper repainted by a "Porsche recommended" paint shop a few months before, so it didn't have so much as stone chip on it. And then I get to thinking about the one you are considering buying (and dealers cannot continue to be dealers if they don't make a profit), and how I loved that car so much that I bought an identical new one just over a year ago. They really do seem to be as unaffected by depreciation as anything. If it all feels genuine and untampered with (love the tyre story), I think it might actually be a bargain. I know by rights they ought to be cheaper by now, but not much really is. If it might just put a smile on your face when you leave the house in the morning (and they do), then it might just be money well spent. Weirdly, the really agricultural (or track-focused, as some might say!) Cayman I also have inspires the biggest grin. They are addictive for some of us. I know I am old and weird, but if there was ever a daily usable sports car, this is it. My gut feel is that you have already found the right one. Liam

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Check what you're getting in the service - OPC's tend to add a £300 air con service which is optional and not actually required, if it's blowing cold then I wouldn't bother. They'll email you a quote listing what they are going to do if you ask - and some dealers are way cheaper than others - especially if you take a day trip further away from the south east.

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Right, spent some time with the car! I’m making a meal of this I know! One minute head rules heart, the next minute it flips! The car is close to needing 4 tyres, so I’m factoring in PS4S N replacements. It needs front pads soon. Otherwise, it really does seem a great example. I managed to trace the former owner who gave me reassurance too. At present I have a fantastic S3, but as the car is rarely used, I’m looking for something that is an occasion itself to drive. We have a family wagon for those duties. I have a reasonable price for the 6 year service at an OPC, and might even be able to stretch to a warranty with them too, although I think £315 for the 111 point check is steep considering they will be doing a full service at the time! I would purchase approved used, but cannot find anything with the spec of this which is pretty much ideal for me. Also, with the tyres done, service in August and possibly a warranty, it’ll be not much different , and slightly cheaper. The only thing that lets it down cosmetically are the rusting parts of the disc vents, surface rust on the wheel bolts and white worm corrosion on the centre hubs. Also the black calipers have faded (must be a way of bringing back to life?). All a bit OCD, but that’s me! Dealer will MOT and get the wheels refurbished. I then have head ruling heart moments and look at new S3’s! Then I look at this (my S3 in the background). Thought’s really appreciated.

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By the time you’ve paid for the six year service, warranty and brakes you’re getting close to 2019 OPC prices with the 24 month warranty already included: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... Just a thought, also possible leverage to knock a couple of grand off your deal?

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Thanks, appreciated. I’ve had a good look at approved, but the gap is reasonably significant as I’m looking for folding mirrors (park in garage) and PDK. Fallen in love with the 20” wheels too, particularly against the GP silver! Dealer already dropped some, and won’t move any further. Good part ex for mine (almost private money) and I don’t suppose a full refurbishment of the 20” wheels isn’t cheap. I guess even an approved car would have cosmetic brake disc rust and tyres at say 3mm - probably Pirelli too! Faded brake calipers too. I think I’m talking myself into it!

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I wouldn't worry about rust brakes discs. Very common on steels. Mine rust up within minutes of doing a wash and it's only a year old with 6000 miles on it. Same with the wheel bolts. Brakes you could probably do yourself if you're that way inclined and the sensor isn't worn and the discs aren't lipped. Brake calipers do go grey if strong cleaning solutions are used (have a look at some of the OPCs demo cars!) however, you may be able to bring these back to life with a ceramic coating such a Gyeon Rim. The 111 point check is standard if an OPC is providing an extended warranty but you may be able to negotiate the £250 cost as you're buying the warranty and paying for a service. If you've made contact with the previous owner and if he's had it from new, he will be able to tell you if he's had any issues. Verify the mileage he sold it at compared to what it is now. That should indicate if it's been sat for a while and if anything has happened between him owning it and the dealer. WRT options I'll tell you what was/is optional Sports tailpipes. Standard one is oval Folding mirrors Carplay Rear parking sensors 64 ltr tank PDK Multifunction steering wheel heated Interior light package Guards red seatbelts Heated seats Rear wiper Any pictures of the interior?

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Thanks, appreciated. I’ve had a good look at approved, but the gap is reasonably significant as I’m looking for folding mirrors (park in garage) and PDK. Fallen in love with the 20” wheels too, particularly against the GP silver! Dealer already dropped some, and won’t move any further. Good part ex for mine (almost private money) and I don’t suppose a full refurbishment of the 20” wheels isn’t cheap. I guess even an approved car would have cosmetic brake disc rust and tyres at say 3mm - probably Pirelli too! Faded brake calipers too. I think I’m talking myself into it!

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scrounger73 said: I wouldn't worry about rust brakes discs. Very common on steels. Mine rust up within minutes of doing a wash and it's only a year old with 6000 miles on it. Same with the wheel bolts. Brakes you could probably do yourself if you're that way inclined and the sensor isn't worn and the discs aren't lipped. Brake calipers do go grey if strong cleaning solutions are used (have a look at some of the OPCs demo cars!) however, you may be able to bring these back to life with a ceramic coating such a Gyeon Rim. The 111 point check is standard if an OPC is providing an extended warranty but you may be able to negotiate the £250 cost as you're buying the warranty and paying for a service. If you've made contact with the previous owner and if he's had it from new, he will be able to tell you if he's had any issues. Verify the mileage he sold it at compared to what it is now. That should indicate if it's been sat for a while and if anything has happened between him owning it and the dealer. WRT options I'll tell you what was/is optional Sports tailpipes. Standard one is oval Folding mirrors Carplay Rear parking sensors 64 ltr tank PDK Multifunction steering wheel heated Interior light package Guards red seatbelts Heated seats Rear wiper Any pictures of the interior? Thanks. I’m more than happy to replace the brakes myself, but what is the process with releasing the parking brake at the rear? I use VCDS on my Audi, will I need something similar? Photos of interior:

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GE90 said: I’m more than happy to replace the brakes myself, but what is the process with releasing the parking brake at the rear? I use VCDS on my Audi, will I need something similar? You'll need a diagnostic tool for the electronic parking brake, if you need to touch it or change the rotor. Just be warned that the EPB doesn't use the rear pad like most systems but a separate shoe located behind the calliper. Autel, iCarSoft, iScan and Foxwell make diagnostic units with the full EPB service mode options. A pad change shouldn't require you to touch the EPB system, a rotor change will. You should IIRC on "base" be able to get the rear pads out without removing the calliper, a suitably large piston spreader will needed to push the pistons back.

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Thanks, appreciated. Those diagnostic tools are a minefield! Any links to something cheap that will do the job? Also code battery too. This looks good for the price? https://ljmcardiagnostics.co.uk/products/icarsoft-...

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Well that’s about £30 cheaper than design 911 want for the same unit, so yes a good price. Are you planning on doing a disc/rotor change? If so watch the guides online particularly those that cover the diagnostics side of things.

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Thanks - yes, I’ll change them all. Any specific guides you can suggest?

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It's a 981 but near enough the same as the 982 base front callipers are those off the 981 S just in black. https://youtu.be/xJAHyLbJsWo https://youtu.be/G2LZWL3FtUI I would have thought the fronts would be the ones needing replacing given the mileage.. As the car isn't fitted with PTV the rears 'should' be ok.

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For a EPB reset tool, have a look at the iCarsoft POR 3.0

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Right, first, thanks so much to all of the contributors. I decided not to proceed in the end, as an OPC car came up which I could just about stretch to (with some man maths). Will be collecting in 2 weeks time - really excited. 2018 Base, 19,000 miles. Some nice options: Edited by GE90 on Friday 10th February 07:58 Edited by GE90 on Friday 10th February 07:59

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jimbo761 said: Great choice OP, looks good! Thank you. Only one uncertainty is the wheels. Really wanted the Carrera S wheels. Just not sure about the Turbo S ones - albeit, it seems they are the pricier option. First world!

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Turbo wheels are nice and forged so light. You also got sports exhaust as well. The other car didn't have that. Some nice options on there as well. Enjoy

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scrounger73 said: Turbo wheels are nice and forged so light. You also got sports exhaust as well. The other car didn't have that. Some nice options on there as well. Enjoy Appreciated. I’m well chuffed! Yes, options as follows: Sports exhaust - seems that this just opens the valve rather than the Sport button that tweaks throttle response and gear change? Steering Plus - just lightens effort at low speed Bose - didn’t try this Wheels with coloured logo caps - jury still out! Tinted rear lights and black 718 logo Twin climate Heated multi function steering wheel Folding mirrors - a must for me Parking plus - just adds front sensor? No camera Sports seat full leather - not sure if the seat shape is the same, but the leather seems nice Cruise control GT silver I think that’s it! One owner car supplied by same dealer. Immaculate, all 4 tyres being replaced.

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GE90 said: Appreciated. I’m well chuffed! Yes, options as follows: Sports exhaust - seems that this just opens the valve rather than the Sport button that tweaks throttle response and gear change? Steering Plus - just lightens effort at low speed Bose - didn’t try this Wheels with coloured logo caps - jury still out! Tinted rear lights and black 718 logo Twin climate Heated multi function steering wheel Folding mirrors - a must for me Parking plus - just adds front sensor? No camera Sports seat full leather - not sure if the seat shape is the same, but the leather seems nice Cruise control GT silver I think that’s it! One owner car supplied by same dealer. Immaculate, all 4 tyres being replaced. That a great spec. Sports seats have a different shape, shoulder level? That cars well worth paying more for over the other one from the independent dealer.

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Agree, whatever the maths says, I think a much better place to land (and less likely you'll be scrabbling around changing brake pads). I think it looks absolutely great in all ways. It has options I never would have chosen, but none I would resent or regret. And look on the bright side, through all this thought and decision making looking at a car from an independent, you knew you really wanted one before you saw the OPC offering. That can really help! I hope the purchase goes smoothly and you love the car. Liam

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Looks fantastic. I just picked up this Boxster myself and I must say I'm very happy: The 4T seriously kicks out the power, am looking forward to the summer and taking it to Europe.

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Should be collecting in just over a week. All tyres bring replaced (wouldn’t agree Michelins), all four wheels refurbished and front bumper being sprayed. All being undertaken by their approved/preferred body shop etc. Then straight to Detailer for pss as int correction and 7 year ceramic coating. Cannot wait. OPC seems to think I did well to get a discount from them - it is unusual to negotiate a discount on their approved used stock? Cheers

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GE90 said: Thank you. Only one uncertainty is the wheels. Really wanted the Carrera S wheels. Just not sure about the Turbo S ones - albeit, it seems they are the pricier option. First world! I have some exceptional nice low mileage carrera S alloys in silver if you fancied a swop?? Pm me if so

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Hi All Just to update - I collected my 2018 GT Silver Cayman Base yesterday. So happy with my choice, after deliberating for a while! Off the my detailer in a few weeks for him to work his magic. Just a couple of questions please: 1) What options have people gone for for boot/frunk organisers? 2) With PDK is seems that you can get the brake to set out pushing hard - great. However, when switch engine off does the park brake stay set? 3) Anyone had trouble with Porsche metal valve caps seizing? Cheers!

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GE90 said: Right, first, thanks so much to all of the contributors. I decided not to proceed in the end, as an OPC car came up which I could just about stretch to (with some man maths). Will be collecting in 2 weeks time - really excited. 2018 Base, 19,000 miles. Some nice options: Very nice car. I too will be in the market very soon for a Cayman. Unsure wether to go for a 981 S or a 718. What did you pay at the dealers if you dont mind me asking.

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GE90 said: Hi All Just to update - I collected my 2018 GT Silver Cayman Base yesterday. 3) Anyone had trouble with Porsche metal valve caps seizing? Cheers! Metal valve caps will seize on any car, not a great idea unless you free them off regularly. Surely they're not seized on the car you've just bought from OPC?

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Trevor555 said: Metal valve caps will seize on any car, not a great idea unless you free them off regularly. Surely they're not seized on the car you've just bought from OPC? No, it’s just that when I first viewed the car it had a set fitted, but just noticed that eiether when they wheels were refurbished or the tyres fitted, they have been replaced with normal plastic ones. Perhaps bullet dodged. Thanks

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GE90 said: Trevor555 said: Metal valve caps will seize on any car, not a great idea unless you free them off regularly. Surely they're not seized on the car you've just bought from OPC? No, it’s just that when I first viewed the car it had a set fitted, but just noticed that eiether when they wheels were refurbished or the tyres fitted, they have been replaced with normal plastic ones. Perhaps bullet dodged. Thanks All good then. That's a lovely looking car you've bought. Please keep us updated with your ownership journey.

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