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YOUR RESEARCHOPC replacement brake costs? [981] - Page 3 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK
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That's likely the 992 Carrera S setup at the front with the 981 Spyder setup at the rear.
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Edit: The OPC's quote was £1170 - just looked it up on their health check email.
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Audi never mentioned anything at the next service, so I assume they just do a visual check on pad width and don’t keep any record that might flag up 50k mile old pads.
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Check OPC brake part prices first before you purchase from elsewhere as it has been know for Porsche to be cheaper for some parts than going to a third party!
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Yes replace the bolts for the calliper but I’m not convinced they are stretch.
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Audi never mentioned anything at the next service, so I assume they just do a visual check on pad width and don’t keep any record that might flag up 50k mile old pads.
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Check OPC brake part prices first before you purchase from elsewhere as it has been know for Porsche to be cheaper for some parts than going to a third party!
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I thought about replacing the rears too, but there was very little wear and I heard horror stories about needing a special tool in lieu of PIWIS to reset the electronic handbrake system.
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I thought about replacing the rears too, but there was very little wear and I heard horror stories about needing a special tool in lieu of PIWIS to reset the electronic handbrake system.
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Before I start ringing various OPC's in the South East, curious what people have paid (or been quoted) for replacement pads at the OPC?
If possible to mention whether this is front/rears or the full set, that be helpful.
Needs to be S/GTS sport brakes.
anonymous said:
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I think jimbo761 is saying the base 718 gained the brakes from the previous 981 S/GTS which is my undretsanding too. The 718 S/GTS/4.0 got the brakes from the 981 Spyder I think.
Twinfan said:
I think jimbo761 is saying the base 718 gained the brakes from the previous 981 S/GTS which is my undretsanding too. The 718 S/GTS/4.0 got the brakes from the 981 Spyder I think.
Yes, I believe the 718S brakes came from the 911 Carrera -
Porsche-718-Press-release-April-25-2016 said:
On account of the car’s greater driving performance capabilities, stronger brake systems are now in use with 330-millimetre brake discs in front and 299-millimetre discs at the rear. The 718 Cayman now has the brake system that was previously used in the 981 Cayman S. The 718 Cayman S, on the other hand, uses the four-piston callipers of the 911 Carrera combined with six-millimetre thicker brake discs
Not sure about the 4.0.
Just checked and the 4.0 uses 6-pot/350mm up front and 4-pot/330mm at the rear. That's likely the 992 Carrera S setup at the front with the 981 Spyder setup at the rear.
Did my own last weekend and use OE quality from design 911. Replaced the sensors, discs, pads, anti vibe shims, pins the lot- even did handbrake shoes….brakes really well now and a very simple job, easier than most cars.
Pads only are a doddle.
Even if you can't DIY its still better to by the genuine/OEM parts and get a local garage to fit them at less than a third of OPC labour rates.
Check OPC brake part prices first before you purchase from elsewhere as it has been know for Porsche to be cheaper for some parts than going to a third party!
I got quoted £1100 for front discs and pads from my OPC for my Cayman 981 GTS.
I didn't go with them and a good indy did them for £850. Still felt expensive but - hey - Porsche tax etc.
Fatherdougal said:
I got quoted £1100 for front discs and pads from my OPC for my Cayman 981 GTS.
I didn't go with them and a good indy did them for £850. Still felt expensive but - hey - Porsche tax etc.
I did 4 discs and pads on mine for about £400. Super easy.
Re Porsche tax, I also bought a new oilf ilter for my 981 C GTS from Porsche. It was as expected £16. What I wasnt expecting was the £11.20 for a new O ring that sits in the plastic oil filter housing. The one that never leaks in the lifetime of a car and has always come in the oill filter box in the last 40 years of me buying oil filters.
The parts guy said to me,Yes, it's funny, I dont know why Porsche do it that way...
Well I do. Porsche super tax for the mugs on this planet.
As others have said, Porsche brakes are pretty easy to work on. Worth being aware the caliper bolts are stretch bolts and should be replaced when removed. Wear sensors, if not triggered, can often be re-used if you are very delicate removing them... on which note, remember to reconnect them. I speak as someone who forgot to once.
Re parts, I find design911 a tad expensive. My OPC was cheaper for genuine parts and for the discs I bought mine from a motor factor - same brand as make them for Porsche and when I compared them to the discs that came off the car (genuine Porsche), they had the same numbers stamped on them and were, other than wear, identical. The difference was they were 1/3 of the cost. Bolts and pads I got from my OPC with the latter being £25 less (for rears) than the aforementioned website.
If you don't want to do them yourself, get the bits and get any compotent mechanic to do them - I'm sure you'll find one that charges less than the OPC labour rate.
JasonSteel said:
andygo said:
I did 4 discs and pads on mine for about £400. Super easy.
not OEM parts though?
Probably were OEM, just not in a Porsche box.
Fatherdougal said:
I got quoted £1100 for front discs and pads from my OPC for my Cayman 981 GTS.
I didn't go with them and a good indy did them for £850. Still felt expensive but - hey - Porsche tax etc.
That sounds worryingly close to me...maybe the Indy's or that Indy is expensive too now?
Basic tools and a half decent torque wrench and you can do yourself quite easily.
Yes replace the bolts for the calliper but I’m not convinced they are stretch. Do use a torque wrench as these bolt go into an aluminium carrier.
Textar pads and Sebro disks are what i used to fit.
If it’s a 987S then d911 are selling oem disks and pads £300 ish per axle.
Prob £80 an axle to have fitted at any half decent mechanic. So all in around £720 ish
Cheaper with Brembo etc. Bet Porsche would be double
Even if you had a full Porsche history there’s little point in paying through nose on routine consumables.
Caddyshack said:
Did my own last weekend and use OE quality from design 911. Replaced the sensors, discs, pads, anti vibe shims, pins the lot- even did handbrake shoes….brakes really well now and a very simple job, easier than most cars.
Pads only are a doddle.
To be fair if you can do pads, disks are even easier.
bennno said:
To be fair if you can do pads, disks are even easier.
It took me longer to jack the car up and take the wheels off than it it did to change the front discs.
and31 said:
It took me longer to jack the car up and take the wheels off than it it did to change the front discs.
Yep, and messing about winding pistons back in. Just a case of unbolting a couple of calliper bolts, zip tie to suspension spring and remove a disk retaining bolt if there is one….
bennno said:
Yep, and messing about winding pistons back in. Just a case of unbolting a couple of calliper bolts, zip tie to suspension spring and remove a disk retaining bolt if there is one….
No need to wind. Just use a pry bar in between the disc and pad and apply a little force. Obviously you do this while caliper is still bolted up to car. The caliper or pistons will retract relatively easily but slowly and the gap should widen. You can check you have enough clearance for the new pads before you then unbolt the caliper if doing discs also.
and31 said:
I buy a lot of my parts from autodoc-massive savings-you just need to order a week or two before you need the parts.
What's situation now with Europe and VAT on imported goods?
ATM said:
and31 said:
I buy a lot of my parts from autodoc-massive savings-you just need to order a week or two before you need the parts.
What's situation now with Europe and VAT on imported goods?
Last load of stuff I bought was in October last year-the website converts everything into Sterling and the price shown was the price I paid.cannot fault it,just order stuff two weeks before you need it to make sure it turns up on time.
I bought a set of Eibach pro lowering springs, as an example ( I had a broken rear spring do decided to change all four and lower the car slightly)
Autodoc was at least £100 cheaper than anywhere I could get them in the U.K.,including them being posted here!
ATM said:
No need to wind. Just use a pry bar in between the disc and pad and apply a little force. Obviously you do this while caliper is still bolted up to car. The caliper or pistons will retract relatively easily but slowly and the gap should widen. You can check you have enough clearance for the new pads before you then unbolt the caliper if doing discs also.
Depends on the car
bennno said:
ATM said:
No need to wind. Just use a pry bar in between the disc and pad and apply a little force. Obviously you do this while caliper is still bolted up to car. The caliper or pistons will retract relatively easily but slowly and the gap should widen. You can check you have enough clearance for the new pads before you then unbolt the caliper if doing discs also.
Depends on the car
OP is asking about a 981. So on a 981 do you need to wind or can you just apply pressure with a pry bar?
Had my car (2014 981 Boxster S) serviced by an OPC late last year, and they said my front brakes needed doing. They quoted something horrific (I forget now) but I declined as I'd been planning to do them myself anyway. In the end I ordered the following Brembo parts from Design911:
98135193904BRE BRAKE PADS FRONT 981 / 981C 1 £96/pr
99735140101BRE BRAKE DISC FRONT 997 C2/4 3.6L MKII / 991 / 981S LEFT 1 £86.33
99735140201BRE BRAKE DISC FRONT 997 C2/4 3.6L MKII / 991 / 981S RIGHT 1 £86.33
99160916500/1 BRAKE WIRE SENSOR 2 £11.35ea
So about £300 for the parts and it took me a couple of hours to do the job from start to finish. I thought about replacing the rears too, but there was very little wear and I heard horror stories about needing a special tool in lieu of PIWIS to reset the electronic handbrake system. I do have a brake fluid tester, but it showed in the green (no water content) so I didn't do a brake fluid replacement. Perhaps that was already done as part of the full service.
Edit: The OPC's quote was £1170 - just looked it up on their health check email.
Edited by LunarOne on Saturday 25th February 20:26
I’m still staggered at opc quoting £1100!
It would take me an hour or so including digging my jack out from the shed-I bet opc could have it done in 20 mins if they tried.
LunarOne said:
Edit: The OPC's quote was £1170 - just looked it up on their health check email.
Edited by LunarOne on Saturday 25th February 20:26
Thank you. Yes, that price seems expensive, especially given 4 corners of discs/pads is approx £2k.
Not done them on the Porsche, but on my wife’s TTS the rear brakes needed a coding tool to back off the electronic handbrake.
Fronts were no different to any other car, but a fraction of the cost of Audi fitted parts.
Do the 718 rears have a similar issue?
Hol said:
Not done them on the Porsche, but on my wife’s TTS the rear brakes needed a coding tool to back off the electronic handbrake.
Fronts were no different to any other car, but a fraction of the cost of Audi fitted parts.
Do the 718 rears have a similar issue?
Yes they do. They still have mechanical adjusters so you can back off the handbrake shoes, but if you don't get the adjustment perfectly, you'll get handbrake error messages. That's why I delayed doing my rears - I don't have a PIWIS or an equivalent third party tool.
Not for lack of wanting one, but I can't work out which scantool has the right functionality AND works on other marques like VW/Audi and BMW, the latter of which is the most important. All the consumer level tools seem to specialise in one marque.
anonymous said:
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If you replace the discs, then they may fit the existing shoes differently and therefore adjustment will be necessary. There's unlikely to be much wear on the shoes or the inner drums considering that you can't half-engage the handbrake while the car is driving - it's either on when the car is stationary or off when the car is moving.
LunarOne said:
Yes they do. They still have mechanical adjusters so you can back off the handbrake shoes, but if you don't get the adjustment perfectly, you'll get handbrake error messages. That's why I delayed doing my rears - I don't have a PIWIS or an equivalent third party tool.
Not for lack of wanting one, but I can't work out which scantool has the right functionality AND works on other marques like VW/Audi and BMW, the latter of which is the most important. All the consumer level tools seem to specialise in one marque.
I’ve got my eye on this. Not cheap, but appears to have lifetime free updates:
https://ljmcardiagnostics.co.uk/products/icarsoft-...
GE90 said:
LunarOne said:
Yes they do. They still have mechanical adjusters so you can back off the handbrake shoes, but if you don't get the adjustment perfectly, you'll get handbrake error messages. That's why I delayed doing my rears - I don't have a PIWIS or an equivalent third party tool.
Not for lack of wanting one, but I can't work out which scantool has the right functionality AND works on other marques like VW/Audi and BMW, the latter of which is the most important. All the consumer level tools seem to specialise in one marque.
I’ve got my eye on this. Not cheap, but appears to have lifetime free updates:
https://ljmcardiagnostics.co.uk/products/icarsoft-...
Not cheap, but also suspiciously too cheap for it to have full functionality for all those brands. I want whatever tool I get to be able to tap into the gateway to code in new batteries etc. Do you know if this can do that?
LunarOne said:
GE90 said:
LunarOne said:
Yes they do. They still have mechanical adjusters so you can back off the handbrake shoes, but if you don't get the adjustment perfectly, you'll get handbrake error messages. That's why I delayed doing my rears - I don't have a PIWIS or an equivalent third party tool.
Not for lack of wanting one, but I can't work out which scantool has the right functionality AND works on other marques like VW/Audi and BMW, the latter of which is the most important. All the consumer level tools seem to specialise in one marque.
I’ve got my eye on this. Not cheap, but appears to have lifetime free updates:
https://ljmcardiagnostics.co.uk/products/icarsoft-...
Not cheap, but also suspiciously too cheap for it to have full functionality for all those brands. I want whatever tool I get to be able to tap into the gateway to code in new batteries etc. Do you know if this can do that?
I am also in the market for one. I need it to make me more attractive to the opposite [binary] sex. Can it do that?
Also I need to clear air bags faults, possibly code the car to not have side air bags and general pork stuff like that for all 9x6 cars and forward.
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Not done them on the Porsche, but on my wife’s TTS the rear brakes needed a coding tool to back off the electronic handbrake.
Fronts were no different to any other car, but a fraction of the cost of Audi fitted parts.
Do the 718 rears have a similar issue?
Yes they do. They still have mechanical adjusters so you can back off the handbrake shoes, but if you don't get the adjustment perfectly, you'll get handbrake error messages. That's why I delayed doing my rears - I don't have a PIWIS or an equivalent third party tool.
Not for lack of wanting one, but I can't work out which scantool has the right functionality AND works on other marques like VW/Audi and BMW, the latter of which is the most important. All the consumer level tools seem to specialise in one marque.
I bit the bullet and paid an Indy to fit the rears, rather than risk a bigger bill.
Audi never mentioned anything at the next service, so I assume they just do a visual check on pad width and don’t keep any record that might flag up 50k mile old pads. Which makes sense for a consumable part that isn’t included in the standard schedule.
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