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YOUR RESEARCHPulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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Use nav almost every touring drive, purely just

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I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads.

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I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads.

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I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

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Leading evidence: 'Use nav almost every touring drive, purely just' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Set nav' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Use radio (other than

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use smartphone

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Set nav

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I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Suggestion

I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use controls

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Suggestion · Original poster

Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Suggestion

Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK
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Set nav

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Suggestion

I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Suggestion

I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use controls

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Suggestion · Original poster

Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Suggestion

Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use iphone

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Suggestion · Original poster

We opted for CDR which gives us DAB and better sound...we'll use the iPhone for navigation if needed!

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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We opted for CDR which gives us DAB and better sound...we'll use the iPhone for navigation if needed!

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use nav almost every touring drive, purely just

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I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use radio (other than

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Use smartphone

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

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I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio.

Pulled the Trigger on BGTS - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ordered a Boxster GTS yesterday for the wife...well they are girls cars aren't they!! Only joking, we are seriously looking forward to picking it up. I have been quoted September delivery. Can I ask if that's a realistic timeframe? Could we expect it sooner? Thanks in advance.

POST 2Original post

You mean you ordered it to your spec !! So it's for you Enjoy

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Bieldside said: You mean you ordered it to your spec !! So it's for you Enjoy She picked the colour and I picked the tech bits...no it's for her!

POST 4Original post

Congratulations! Delivery sounds about right, demand is high for the GTS models - you wouldn't likely get a Cayman GTS built to your spec until 2016! What specification have you gone for?

POST 5Original post

FrankieDBSBee said: Ordered a Boxster GTS yesterday for the wife...well they are girls cars aren't they!! Only joking, we are seriously looking forward to picking it up. I have been quoted September delivery. Can I ask if that's a realistic timeframe? Could we expect it sooner? Thanks in advance. What made you chose a GTS vs a new Spyder? - PDK a prereq?

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Went for GTS rather than Spyder as our thoughts were Spyder is a bit too "hard core". Spec wise there was a lot of help from the comments on here especially regarding the PCM vs CDR plus. We opted for CDR which gives us DAB and better sound...we'll use the iPhone for navigation if needed! Spec is here: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/defa... Not the biggest specified GTS coming in at just over £57K on the planet but suits us.

POST 7Original post

FrankieDBSBee said: We opted for CDR which gives us DAB and better sound...we'll use the iPhone for navigation if needed! I don't think you do get DAB with the CDR radio...if you want DAB you have to opt for PCM.

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dreamcar said: I don't think you do get DAB with the CDR radio...if you want DAB you have to opt for PCM. You do: Audio system CDR Plus incl. Sound Package Plus Audio system with seven loudspeakers and a total output of 185 watts. Equipped with: high-resolution 7-inch colour touchscreen, radio with analogue and digital twin tuner for receiving radio broadcasts on FM/AM wavebands and in the DAB, DAB+ and DMB formats , single CD/DVD drive, USB port for various iPod® and iPhone® models, MP3 players and USB memory sticks containing MP3 tracks. Support for cover art and playback of podcasts and audiobooks. Operable via CDR Plus audio system or optional multifunction steering wheel, AUX interface for connecting other external audio sources. Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself £ 1,052.00Add to selection

POST 9Original post

Mine arrived six weeks after I deposited, but I got lucky with a build slot so September sounds very realistic. I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads. I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads. Fiddling around with a smartphone Nav app is totally at odds with an integrated unit, and trust me when I say you won't get map coverage everywhere on a phone. My spec came to £69.5k but I admit to going a little tick-happy with the options list

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koorby said: I would reconsider PCM; the car is a tourer and the sat Nav function is so beautifully integrated into both the centre console screen and the right-side dashboard LCD screen, plus you can easily set the Nav to avoid motorways and stay on A-roads. I think I have used Nav almost every touring drive, purely just to keep my bearings and look for twisty roads. Fiddling around with a smartphone Nav app is totally at odds with an integrated unit, and trust me when I say you won't get map coverage everywhere on a phone. ) While I agree with all of that, the fact that it doesn't do speed cameras or personalised POIs is a bit (a lot for some) of a negative. I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio. Since I rarely have radio or music when I drive it's no big deal for me - but would be for many.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

koorby said: My spec came to £69.5k but I admit to going a little tick-happy with the options list Blimey you did go tick-happy, that one hell of an option list you must have there! For another £1K PCM might be worth it. I have a little while until lock down and I'll give it some thought.

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FrankieDBSBee said: You do: Audio system CDR Plus incl. Sound Package Plus Audio system with seven loudspeakers and a total output of 185 watts. Equipped with: high-resolution 7-inch colour touchscreen, radio with analogue and digital twin tuner for receiving radio broadcasts on FM/AM wavebands and in the DAB, DAB+ and DMB formats , single CD/DVD drive, USB port for various iPod® and iPhone® models, MP3 players and USB memory sticks containing MP3 tracks. Support for cover art and playback of podcasts and audiobooks. Operable via CDR Plus audio system or optional multifunction steering wheel, AUX interface for connecting other external audio sources. Functions are operated using the controls on the connected device itself £ 1,052.00Add to selection The OP stated his spec was CD-R (which does not come with DAB). As you correctly state you have to add £1,052 for CD-R+ in order to get DAB. So we are both correct!

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FrankieDBSBee said: Blimey you did go tick-happy, that one hell of an option list you must have there! For another £1K PCM might be worth it. I have a little while until lock down and I'll give it some thought. Something you might want to consider, when time comes to sell your car PCM is an "expected" extra and I've been told in the past that dealers will knock off about £1k for cars that don't have it. You could argue therefore that if you are paying £1k extra for CD-R+ it isn't going to cost you much at all over the life of the car in your hands to choose it. The navigation system is a very good system, better than you'd get on a smartphone by some way.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Box now ticked for PCM...thanks for the advice. Silly not ticking it in the first place really!

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bcr5784 said: While I agree with all of that, the fact that it doesn't do speed cameras or personalised POIs is a bit (a lot for some) of a negative. I use my smartphone to get camera alerts via bluetooth - but that does mean I can't use the radio (other than for traffic alerts) or any other audio. Since I rarely have radio or music when I drive it's no big deal for me - but would be for many. Why do you need traffic camera alerts? I don't generally speed on public roads so I don't see the need. The few times I venture into the 60-80 mph zone on A roads is usually when I can see a clear mile behind and in front of me and even then I don't see the point in exceeding 70 IMHO. On motorways I do 79mph which is the limit + 10% + 2mph at which the Old Bill generally give you a verbal warning anyway since it's inside the variant limits. Through villages it's 100%, no questions 30mph or what the marked limits are. I live in a village and respect drivers who respect residents.

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FrankieDBSBee said: Box now ticked for PCM...thanks for the advice. Silly not ticking it in the first place really! You've got a good spec there, all the right bits covered for a "pure" GTS experience. Unlike myself you've been much more disciplined with ticking boxes. You were definitely right staying with the GTS interior of alcantara and leather rather than opting for the no-cost full leather which completely spoils the GTS exclusive interior. Congratulations!

POST 17Original post

koorby said: Why do you need traffic camera alerts? I don't generally speed on public roads so I don't see the need. Perhaps I do. You clearly don't regard 70mph as the highest safe speed (in good conditions) any more than I do.

POST 18Original post

koorby said: Why do you need traffic camera alerts? I don't generally speed on public roads so I don't see the need. The few times I venture into the 60-80 mph zone on A roads is usually when I can see a clear mile behind and in front of me and even then I don't see the point in exceeding 70 IMHO. On motorways I do 79mph which is the limit + 10% + 2mph at which the Old Bill generally give you a verbal warning anyway since it's inside the variant limits. Through villages it's 100%, no questions 30mph or what the marked limits are. I live in a village and respect drivers who respect residents. PCM - or any other OEM sat nav doesn't have traffic camera warnings for the simple reason in many countries such warnings are illegal. Re observing speed limits I agree totally with sticking to 20 or 30 mph in built up areas, and do so strictly. On motorways roof down 80mph is fast enough, with mine I put PDK in normal and drive in a relaxed manner. Once off the motorway spirt button pressed and enjoy driving once more. There aren't many A roads where you can drive far in excess of the 60 mph limit safely for very long anyway, quick blasts where it's safe and back down again. The enjoyment is in open sweeping corners etc not driving at highly illegal speeds on the straights. Don't need speed camera warnings I've got SWMBO!

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dreamcar said: PCM - or any other OEM sat nav doesn't have traffic camera warnings for the simple reason in many countries such warnings are illegal. That's the guff that Porsche told me - but it's not the case. My wife's Nissan Note has them - and I'd be pretty sure that any car (mainly Renault) with a TomTom system will have them too. See Pocket GPS World for details of lots more including BMW/Some jags and LandRover, some Mercs, Rolls etc. I'm pretty sure that the only country in Europe that doesn't allow them full stop is Switzerland. France has a sort-of ban which both TomTom and Garmin sat navs circumvent quite legally. Any sat nav that supports personalised POIs can in practise support some sort of warning.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

dreamcar said: You've got a good spec there, all the right bits covered for a "pure" GTS experience. Unlike myself you've been much more disciplined with ticking boxes. You were definitely right staying with the GTS interior of alcantara and leather rather than opting for the no-cost full leather which completely spoils the GTS exclusive interior. Congratulations! Thanks. Although not the biggest set of options we are pleased with the final choices. The one option we mused about a lot was manual vs. PDK. We opted for manual for the "true" sports car experience. Our 997 turbo was manual, our black edition Boxster was PDK. We just felt with the manual you are more in touch with the car. No right or wrong here just personal choice. I remember the turbo's clutch being so light. Can anyone with a manual BGTS confirm the clutch pedal is light too? I seem to remember it has hydraulic assistance? Thanks

POST 21Original post

bcr5784 said: That's the guff that Porsche told me - but it's not the case. My wife's Nissan Note has them - and I'd be pretty sure that any car (mainly Renault) with a TomTom system will have them too. See Pocket GPS World for details of lots more including BMW/Some jags and LandRover, some Mercs, Rolls etc. I'm pretty sure that the only country in Europe that doesn't allow them full stop is Switzerland. France has a sort-of ban which both TomTom and Garmin sat navs circumvent quite legally. Any sat nav that supports personalised POIs can in practise support some sort of warning. It is illegal in France, Belgium, and far as I am aware Germany as well. Neither do Mercedes Benz, Audi, Ford, Skoda, VW, or BMW show traffic enforcement cameras either for the same reason, so it's a fact not "guff". I have a Tom Tom which I use.when out and about in my wife's car and it is hugely inferior to the PCM system - but then so it should be as it's a fraction of the cost. Same goes for the navigation with Apple. Edited by dreamcar on Tuesday 21st April 19:03

POST 22Original post

dreamcar said: It is illegal in France, Belgium as well. I have a Tom Tom which Imuse when out and about in my wife's car and it is hugely inferior than the PCM system. Same goes for the navigation with Apple. It is not illegal in France to display danger zones which is what the latest tomtoms and garmins (which I have) do. Pocket GPS World don't mention Belgium - and I regard them as the most definitive site on this subject, so I'm not sure where that information comes from. I agree that for navigation the display on the PCM is very very good and better than any stand-alone device I have seen - but so it should be at the price. But not to do speed cams or personalised POIs is a big drop off as far as I am concerned. My Garmin does everything I want - albeit with a poorer display - and quite a lot more than PCM, including telephone integration, speed cams, personalised POIs, trip logging, PC integration, lifetime map updates (including the US) and traffic for less than a tenth of the price of the PCM alone. All that said I was keen to have PCM because a sat nav stuck to the windscreen on a Porsche looks tacky - but it doesn't stop me being irritated that I have to have two devices to perform the functions that one I ALREADY have can perform.

POST 23Original post

bcr5784 said: It is not illegal in France to display danger zones which is what the latest tomtoms and garmins (which I have)..... Good luck explaining that point of law to the gendarmes!! Rather you than me.....

POST 24Original post

dreamcar said: Good luck explaining that point of law to the gendarmes!! Rather you than me..... Tomtom and Garmin have agreed it with the French authorities see http://uk.support.tomtom.com/app/answers/detail/a_... and https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/shop-by-accesories... Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 21st April 19:17

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