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Really been eyeing these up recently. Possibly 2019 or so in sport turismo form. Another poster I saw said something like the v8 hybrid drivetrain has a lot of issues though so they went for the non-hybrid option. Can anyone confirm or deny?

When I specced mine I looked at the various options and decided that the non-hybrid turbo ST was the purest play and that was what I bought. Really excellent car, sparking performance and hugely comfortable. Have had it since February 2018 and have about 30,000 miles on it. Minor trouble immediately when new that turned out to be a faulty battery, but perfect other than that.

I’ve driven a couple - on road tests and also at the PEC. I have a 2019 Turbo and my view is that unless you do lots of short journeys, I wouldn’t bother with one. I didn’t feel they were any quicker than the Turbo (they are quite a bit heavier, and feel it too) and there’s quite a bit to go wrong. Being able to waft through villages in silence is quite pleasant but that’s the only upside to me. Yes, fuel consumption can be better for the right length journeys but it’s a V8, so fuel might not be much of a consideration. I can get 30mpg+ from my Turbo on long-ish journeys regardless.

Right cool I mean that really helps. I was originally mega sold on a 911 GT3 but a) need more practically and b) couldn’t really afford it either! So this feels like all win.

This is my third Panamera, having had a naturally aspirated GTS, a previous model Turbo S and now the Turbo. I’d love a 911 but the Panamera is easier to live with if you do any long journeys. There’s a lot of space and they cover miles very comfortably. They are very spec sensitive and it took me a long time to find the one I have. Regarding the V8 hybrid, my service advisor didn’t go into details but suggested they can throw up some problems - he was amazed at the number of people who run them without extending the warranty given how often he ends up seeing them. I think they were at their most popular when the congestion charge didn’t apply to them. There’s an amazingly well specified blue 2020 Panamera Turbo at Porsche in Cambridge at present. If I hadn’t bought mine back from Porsche early this year, I’d have been very tempted.

the turbo S non-hybrid only came out in 2020 right? I can't see any around for sale that are from 2020... they all seem to be nearly new! So does this mean the turbo not-S is the one to go for?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305036...

I’m pretty sure it was 2020, I suspect not many got ordered and any that did are probably still 3 year deals. They do pop up from time to time but they’re rare. The one I mentioned is at Porsche Cambridge but it’s not a Sport Turismo, it’s the normal hatchback. It’s a blue one with the crayon / chalk leather interior. The non-S Turbo is a good bet, still 550bhp ish so plenty quick enough for road driving (no idea about track driving!). Edited by Mosdef on Thursday 11th May 19:18

I’d have a GTS Sport Turrino if it was me. Less weight, less complexity ! As for running a Hybrid without a warranty….that’s just bananas given the price/cover you get with a Porsche warranty.

Cheib said: I’d have a GTS Sport Turrino if it was me. Less weight, less complexity ! As for running a Hybrid without a warranty….that’s just bananas given the price/cover you get with a Porsche warranty. I really liked the GTS but am partial to ventilated seats and barely any of them have them. Sport Turismo is lovely too but I was more fixated on spec than having a little extra space. Totally agree on warranty, I’d never run one without one for the sake of c. £1,500 pa or whatever it costs.

Mosdef said: Cheib said: I’d have a GTS Sport Turrino if it was me. Less weight, less complexity ! As for running a Hybrid without a warranty….that’s just bananas given the price/cover you get with a Porsche warranty. I really liked the GTS but am partial to ventilated seats and barely any of them have them. Sport Turismo is lovely too but I was more fixated on spec than having a little extra space. Totally agree on warranty, I’d never run one without one for the sake of c. £1,500 pa or whatever it costs. We all have our spec “must have’s” at the money you’ll be spending I’d not compromise on what I wanted spec wise.

Mosdef said: I’m pretty sure it was 2020, I suspect not many got ordered and any that did are probably still 3 year deals. They do pop up from time to time but they’re rare. The one I mentioned is at Porsche Cambridge but it’s not a Sport Turismo, it’s the normal hatchback. It’s a blue one with the crayon / chalk leather interior. The non-S Turbo is a good bet, still 550bhp ish so plenty quick enough for road driving (no idea about track driving!). Edited by Mosdef on Thursday 11th May 19:18 I tracked mine at Spa and at the NS. It is certainly not a 911 in any way but surprisingly sure-footed. However ,it is a heavy car for this purpose and very hard on its brakes which do fade after some laps. Autobahn speeds are amazing though and I had no problem breaking 300 km/h, with the car rock solid stable.

I have always been very impressed by how the Panamera drove at the PEC at Silverstone. Admittedly, there aren’t that many big braking areas on the PEC track but it still felt pretty balanced and very readable. The GTS felt a bit lethargic after the Turbo but for normal road driving, I don’t think it would feel that way at all.

I took delivery of a new Turbo S E Hybrid Sport Turismo in Feb after waiting almost one year for a factory order. Found barely any used ones at all ever come up on Porsche website and for the money, I felt I’d have to have it to my own spec. Bottom line: 700hp, 987miles on one fuel tank, average of 62.8mpg inc elec mileage. If you do a lot of mileage/commute within the 31 mile elec range or slightly over, you’re going to get unbelievable average economy in a car as powerful as an Aventador. If you do much longer journeys then the hybrid won’t help so much. Put it in sport and it’s absolutely ballistic as the elec torque fills at low rpm and adds to V8 at high rpm. I charge from a 3 pin plug in 5 hours. It’s a very clever all rounder - as that one car that needs to do it all I couldn’t think of any better - EV/school run/performance/estate car/long distance GT. It was stupid money I suppose but then everything is nowadays.