I have the "service due" display. I called the dealer, spoke to the service manager, they have my car's information since I had the oil changed there last April 08 at 4600 miles. The service manager called back to say I'm due for a 2 year service (my Cayman has 8100 miles).
O.K. that sounds about right? 2 year service for a 2007 Cayman sold in February 2007. I was quoted $600.00 for 2 yr inspection and service including oil/filter change and $160.00 for break fluid change and bleed for a total of $760.00 does that sound right? What are you guys paying for this service? and what are you getting? Even with my 10% PCA discount thats $ 684.00.
I'll DIY on my Chevy pick-up, no problem but not the Porsche, I'll leave that up to the pros??
Should I be shopping around? I don't want to come off as a cheap a$$ but I don't want to be a dumb a$$ either.
FWIW nearest dealer is 156 miles away in Reno,NV.
Any comments/help is much appreciated.
Mark C.
Same here. However, you can save a lot of money if you buy the oil and filter and brake fluids/radiator fluids and bring them in.
They are heavily marked up and if you supply them youself, the price comes way . . way down
I paid ~$480 for a 2 year with 8K. The price did not include a brake bleed at $150. Please ask for a 10% price discount after you get qouted by dealer.
I think the price is ridiculous considering it is simply an inspection plus oil change.
Welcome to the world of Porsche ownership.
Many people think it's worth paying the exorbitant service charges every 2 years in order to maintain a good relationship with your local service department, and get your book stamped for warranty purposes. You could call the next closest dealer just to see if it would be worth your while to drive that far.
On the other hand, many of us have done our own routine maintenance like oil and filter changes, brake fluid flush, etc. which is not that hard, and will cost you much less than the dealer. However, it is recommended that you keep a good record (with receipts) for what you do yourself, should warranty questions arise.
Also, be advised that many dealers are apparently refusing to reset the service reminder on your dash, if they didn't do the service. You can reset it yourself with Durametric, but that will cost you about $300 for the cable.
I have an '06 with 14K miles, car just turned 2 years old. I had my 2nd oil change and the brake and manual transmission fluid changed at a local garage who's owner is a PCA instructor and very experienced with the brand. He stamps my warranty book and I keep all the receipts. I just ordered from Suncoast the cabin and air filters and will change them myself using the directions on this site. To date I have spent less than $500 on maintaining my car. I guess I am saving up for when the day comes I have to take my car to the dealer for service but so far my CaymanS has been very little drain on the wallet.
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I have the "service due" display. I called the dealer, spoke to the service manager, they have my car's information since I had the oil changed there last April 08 at 4600 miles. The service manager called back to say I'm due for a 2 year service (my Cayman has 8100 miles).
O.K. that sounds about right? 2 year service for a 2007 Cayman sold in February 2007. I was quoted $600.00 for 2 yr inspection and service including oil/filter change and $160.00 for break fluid change and bleed for a total of $760.00 does that sound right? What are you guys paying for this service? and what are you getting? Even with my 10% PCA discount thats $ 684.00........FWIW nearest dealer is 156 miles away in Reno,NV."
Mark,
This sounds like the quote I got from the dealer in Reno and that was without the oil change (I have a lifetime oil change deal with an area service provider who is a PCA and BMW club member). In fact the dealer price started out worse than yours. After a brief "discussion" the price came down to under $600 without the oil change. THis was even more than I thought based on an earlier quote from them. By the way I had to "fight" to get the PCA discount. :helpme:
PM me if you want an alternative.
Craig
I just got my car serviced after two years. The service included an oil change but not a brake fluid change. With a PCA discount I paid $280. I don't know whether or not that was the "official two year service".
I thought the tranny was a sealed unit and no need to change it so soon????
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Mark -
If you can do it on the Chevy, you can do it on the Cayman. It's easy and way cheaper. The dealer pricing is ridiculous! Just keep your receipts/log the maintenance in a book and you'll be fine!
$760 or so is a typical California dealer rate for that service. Remember, the flat rate on labor at a dealership is most always higher than an independent garage. And there are many reasons for that.
Whether you feel the price is worth it or not is what counts. Everyone has an opinion.
A competent, ASE certified, independent garage will be able to service the car properly, maintaining the factory warranty.
In general, a garage that works on Porsches all day, every day will be a better selection than ones that service all makes and models.
In the case of brand new model, independent garages tend to have much less experience than a dealership, because they have not worked on as many of the cars. And they generally do not have factory trained (PCNA) mechanics.
Oil change? Piece of cake. What if they drain the oil and find some metal particles? Do you have them trailer the car to the dealer to have a look? Hmmn. Long shot, perhaps, but what if?
As these cars age, the secondary market will be doing more repairs and be better suited to help with any/all maintenance. But for now, trusting the dealer makes sense to me. After warranty, I will visit the independent mechanic that I have used on previous Porsches.
Very, very true. The owners manual tells you what you need to check and at what mileage interval. I really suggest the durametric software as a general troubleshooting aide as well as allowing you to see into all of the systems on the car pretty easily. Yep, it can also reset that service now indication which appears to be there for the sole purpose of driving owners to the dealers for absolutely outrageously priced work.
HTH
fmarshall,
I agree with your maintenance philosophy 100%. When I purchased the Cayman I was aware of the higher than average maintenance costs that the dealers charge, no problem when the maintenance is needed, I just won't be taken to the cleaners with frivolous service suggestions/needs.
I talked to the Service Advisor at McKenna Porsche in SoCal, since the car has 8,000 miles it may not need a full 2 yr service she suggested an oil/filter change, fluids check/top-off, check break wear, check tires a general service inspection. If anything came up abnormal they would advise. As for the break fluid change and bleed, Porsche suggests it be changed at 2 yrs. The quote I was given (oil, service inspection and break fluid) is $321.05 LESS than the other Porsche dealer.
BTW C.C. members receive a 10% discount at McKenna Porsche as they are a site sponsor.
Thanks for all your input.
Mark C.
The price for the oil change and service really isn't that bad if you consider that unless you're driving more than 12,000 miles per year it's annual rather than every 3 - 6 months as it is on other cars.
For example, the 9+ quarts of oil needs to be swapped out on my wife's Audi S4 every six months, making the annual changes on my CS (and the 986 Boxster S before it) a relative bargain.
I called Tischer Porsche to get a quopte on the 2 year inspection. My 2007 CS has just over 14,000 miles. Tischer quoted $830!! I said it was WAY high; they responded that I could provide my own oil and pass on the wiper blade replacement and get the service for $595. I called nearby Rockville Porsche, they quoted $750 and said they'd give me "$70 or $80 off," if I provided my own oil. (That's the same I'd pay for the oil, so it would be a wash) I called HBL Porsche and they said I don't need a 2 year service because I don't have enough miles. They said they'd do a 1 year service for $600. (I suppose they'd charge me $700-plus NEXT year for the 2 year check-up, but NEVERmind)
What gives? I'd like to take my CS to the dealer, especially Tischer because I had a great buyer experience there, but I don't believe in being "taken" just for the privilege of owning a "nice" car. $830?!!!, when others here pay $500?!!! $595, but not the full service outlined by the manufacturer?! Can anyone blame me for going to an imdependent? Especially when times are tight, why would the dealers drive business away?
Because I am sure there are always people who are willing to pay the crazy fees...
I paid the crazy fees for my first scheduled service.
Next time (3/2010) I will shop around first.
Is the 20,000 mile/2 year service just an oil, oil filter, air and cabin filter change?
After reading the service articles on this site, I may do the theses services myself and put the money saved toward new tires.
I have about 10K miles on my CS and it is 2years old. I e-mailed earlier today Porsche of Nashua (Nashua, NH) and service writer told me that he recommends only doing oil change and check. No filters, break fluid, wipers until I actually hit 20K on my odometer. So inspection plus oil - $360. I am getting more details what the inspection will entail.
Here is what he wrote:
I did notice that he missed the fact that I do need to get break flush... but I am going to get an independent do that for me... or just do it myself.
I did try a speciality sports car service department, not a full Porsche dealer for my 2nd. year service. They work on Porsches all day so I felt pretty good about what they knew. Oil and filter plus cabin air filter was $250...feels better than what the dealer quoted.
I just called the dealer and ask what the 20,000 miles service includes. They said cabin and oil filters, oil change and inspection. Price $420. No way will I pay it. A $420 oil change is outrageous. I will do the 1/2 hour worth of work myself.
It is good to do the work yourself and save the money, but I would advise a couple of things - document the work you do, and save the receipts for the oil and filters, and save the end of the oil filter box if you do this yourself. If later on, you do have a problem that's covered under warranty, the dealer where you take your car will want you to prove that the car has been maintained according to the manufacturer's specs. If not, they can, and probably will deny warranty coverage for items that can be directly effected by the maintenance, or perceived lack of it. It will be up to you to prove it to them. Even if you do the work yourself, or have it done at an independent shop, I would also recommend that you take it into the dealer for the inspections. Much can be uncovered during these, once they get the covers off the bottom of the car, and the bulkhead behind the seats. During my 20K service they found an oil leak on one of the cam covers - it was dripping onto the cladding that covers the bottom of the car, and I never would have found it myself. They will also hook the car up to the PIWIS and see if you need software updates or if your car needs any warranty updates as the result of any service campaigns. These can make a difference in how your car runs and works going forward, and the small price for an hour of the shop's time to do the inspection and computer readout will be well worth the $$.
brad
I also recall someone suggesting doing oil analysis with every oil change you do yourself. This way you got extra proof just in case. Plus you should be doing that oil analysis anyway.
Thanks Beez, I planned to document all my work. I will also take my CS in for an inspection. I had not thought it would be necessary, but after hearing about your oil leak, it is a good idea to still get the inspection done.
I just purchased a 2006 CS with 12,500 miles and was quoted $650.00 (Hunt Valley Motors - Maryland for the two year service. Since the car is almost three years old, I'm in between the two or four year interval. They told me that they may provide a PCA discount. I'm also asking my independent service provider as well. I need to get the car inspected and will get the maintenance performed at the same time.
The two and four-year service check lists are basically the same - so either way, you'll be fine. The difference on services comes at 60K when the spark plugs are due to be changed-out.
brad
FWIW -- I just had the 2 year done at the dealer in LV. I explained I had changed the oil and brake fluid myself, had them install pollen filter I provided, and declined the windshield wipers. ... Pleasantly surprised - $180.00 OTD.
wow, that's a great price......maybe it's an/another excuse to move to Vegas
Dan is right, the dealer here is pretty reasonably priced. The
total
price (which also included the brake system flush) for my 20k service was about $600 - that was having them do everything. Not too bad, really.
I originally started this thread back in November 08 and just had the 2 year service done (The croc hibernated for 5 months).
I had the Porsche serviced at McKenna Porsche in So Cal. also a site sponsor here, total OTD $ 463.00 for the complete 2 year service less the cabin air filter. With 8600 miles it was given a clean bill of health. I think I paid a fair price for the service.
Just called Hendrick in Charlotte today to set up my 2 yr. service. After reading through the list in the maintenance manual I figured it was basically just an oil change (not even the cabin filter on the 08's) and that it wouldn't be that expensive. Far less work than the first year inspection. So I asked for a quote on the price, no brake flush or anything of that sort either, and was quoted $830. I politely told the man that was ridiculous and would be calling another dealer. If the other dealer is as high I will go to an independent Porsche shop.
I just had my 2007 2.7 done at Carlsen in Redwood City -- $455 with my PCA discount --- but I told them that I would do my brake flush since I use Mogil 600 -- and its really easy to do.
D
I had my '07 2.7 in for the 20K mile service last week. $584 after the pca discount before taxes. No brake flush . Included are:
oil
oil filter
air filter
cabin air filter
something about a fuel injector cleaner ???
new wiper blades
At least I got to drive a base cayenne loaner. The cayenne is cavernous, soaks up all the bumps, has numb light steering and what felt like the grabbiest brakes of all the vehicles I've driven. Acceleration was so-so.
I also saw a CGT in for servicing. That made my day. Also in the showroom was a black 2010 GT3 with the 1 piece lug nut like in the CGT. $133K sticker. I better keep buying the mega millions lotto tickets
My dealer just quoted $375 for the "2 year service" (The first was just an oil change...this is the oil/ pollen filter/ inspection @ 16k miles on my early 2008 car)
$195 if I want a brake system flush. That's $570. Not bad IMO.
Going in Friday.
Can't wait to get my oil report back from Blackstone...
I just called McKenna and the service advisor quoted me $717. for the 2 year 20k mi. service on a 2007. this was for inspect., oil and filter, air and pollen filter. I did mention this forum. I wonder how you got it to $463. Rght place at the right time I guess.
The HENDRICK family is into NASCAR MOTORSPORTS FIRST!!! And the Hendricks own many car dealerships to support their NASCAR business.
So everything at Hendrick is PRICED (and often OVERPRICED) to support their family racing business.
I went to Hendrick BMW Charlotte to buy some BMW M3 parts and at the time, I thought I was being gouged at the parts desk. But, I needed the parts and bought them anyway. When I got home to Raleigh, I pulled out my paper copy of the BMW Price List (current year) I bought from a BMW Tech on eBay. The prices on my receipt from Hendrick were EXACTLY TEN PERCENT OVER LIST PRICE per BMW's own USA price list. The parts I bought were M3 side panel body clips, and I bought a few more at Leith BMW in Raleigh the next week. The parts were 20% LESS at Leith than Hendricks. No...the German mark did not fall in value in one week...I was gouged by the Hendrick family--NASCAR addicts of the highest order.
If you buy from HENDRICK, you are supporting their NASCAR family business. It's their family and not your family they put first!
- Skip Bogard
But they wash the car for you. That's got to be worth a few hundred.
I was told the 20K service also included brake fluid flush.
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