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stock parts are out of stock and you'l have
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Probably the stock parts are out of stock and you'l have to make do with the aero kits available.
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Replace impact brackets, bumperettes and repaint bumper cover, check alignment will be in the $1,000 to $1,500+ range....
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If so, they need to remove the bumper cover and check the impact bars inside the bumperettes.
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Now in some cases if impact speed higher -- and I don't think it is high enough but I'm not the expert -- the car's wheels are removed, the car placed on a Celette Bench and various body/chassis hard attachment points checked for proper location.
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Check with other club members on best body shop for porsches.
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Now in some cases if impact speed higher -- and I don't think it is high enough but I'm not the expert -- the car's wheels are removed, the car placed on a Celette Bench and various body/chassis hard attachment points checked for proper location.
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You guys are right, I'm going to get it checked out by a professional that is recommend by my local Porsche shop, I don't want to get screwed down the road.
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I was rear ended today. I was stopped and the girl was going between 25 to 40 miles per hour. There is only visible damage to the bumperettes and two scratches on the bumper. My questions who shouldni take it To get checked out? Porsche dealer? Body shop? Both? I just want to make sure nothing shows up later on.
There is not even a slight chance that she was going 40mph (or 25 for that matter) if the only damage is scuffs and scratches on the bumper. At 40mph, your car would likely be totaled. You can probably remove the bumper to inspect for damage if you're mechanically inclined yourself, though likely her insurance is picking up tab, so a trip to a body shop may not be a bad idea.
100% sure if she whacked you at 25-40 there is $8k+ in damage rather you see anything or not do not settle for a "repaint the bumper and call it done" the ONLY way to know whats wrong is to get in there and look and unless you are a qualified Porsche specific auto body person, you wont have a clue as to what to look for...
go to a REALLY REALLY good body shop that does Porsche and not just "high end" cars...be ready for a long time without your car, like months.....
BTW glad (from the sound of it) you were not hurt (or her) - did you get any pictures of her that you wouldn't mind sharing
also start reading about "diminished value" and if your car has never had an accident get ready to file a claim for that.... and it could take quite a bit of time, do a search on here.. there are success stories
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At the very least, the impact brackets under the bumperettes are toast. They are there just for this purpose, as mandated by DOT, to minimize the damage caused by a low speed impact.
Get it checked out by a GOOD body shop that knows Porsches. Replace impact brackets, bumperettes and repaint bumper cover, check alignment will be in the $1,000 to $1,500+ range.... more it they have to replace and paint bumper cover.
that is something you FIGHT FOR
If you think about it (and have read enough posts here of people looking for cars) many MANY buyers wont even touch a car that was in an accident no matter how slight. The Carfax simply says "accident" and they see that and walk away (ask me how I know)
so in order to sell the car you then have a longer period of time to find a buyer because your audience is smaller, and then you get beat up on price for the carfax report (which is stupid, but real) the difference between what you "could have" sold it for and what you ended up selling it for is the value you can sue them for...
lots of leg work and the link above I posted, the OP would be a really good resource to start with, and YES.... get a good body shop to look at it, my <5mph hit was not cheap to fit, a trained eye sees things even I missed...also if there is any paint needed make sure the shop is using real porsche paint and not some crap off the Chinese market to save $$$ (there are specs on the paint and thickness)
I was rear ended 2 years ago on the eve of Thanksgiving. Rush hour traffic stop and start type....The person (young **** girl) behind me was texting... hit me while I was stopped and pushed me into a new Cadillac. I got crunched! The rear qtrs on each side buckled. To make matters worse the driver that caused the mess took off. Lucky for me my insurance ate the $12K bill + rental car. I was in a rental for 3 months. Than to add more salt to the wound, when the body shop put the rear back together they did not route some wiring properly and it eventually frayed causing a CEL. The PCar dealer while fixing the frayed wire shorted the car's brain! They forgot to disconnect the battery!!! I'm getting all worked up just writing this! I need to walk away....
Sounds like your case is not as bad but I would definitely have it checked out. Good Luck!
I'm guessing totalled. my neighbor had the ceiling (not the entire floor) drop out of his garage onto his TT (our apartment bldg is from the 1920s). it dinged and scratched a lot of his finish....car was totalled
Glad to hear you are ok.
Other car no way going that fast. My 02 Boxster got rear-ended stopped at a light. Driver of car behind mine started forward when the driver -- "distracted" aka on the g*dd*mned cell phone -- seeing movement from car in left hand turn lane thought light changed in the lane she was in. It hadn't and she drove her car into mine. This shoved my car into new SUV in front of my car.
Impact speed about 5mph (I had recording device in car at time).
Damage was to front and rear bumper covers, some bumper bracing/metal under the rear cover. One taillight assembly. One headlight assembly.
A bit over $5K.
In CA you are entitled to take car to any shop you want to. Also, car is supposed to be restored to its pre-collision condition. You want this done to avoid any diminished value claim.
If body/sheet metal damage slight to none, consider taking the car to a dealer and letting the dealer's tech dismantle the damaged covers and other hardware. They are much better at this mechanical work than the body shop.
The body shop is good at painting and finishing but lousy at mechanical work.
New covers will be ordered and test fitted and then prepped and painted by a qualified shop. The shop wants to be a Porsche approved collision repair center.
Now in some cases if impact speed higher -- and I don't think it is high enough but I'm not the expert -- the car's wheels are removed, the car placed on a Celette Bench and various body/chassis hard attachment points checked for proper location. This finds if the car has been bent/twisting slightly - which I don't think will be the case -- or even if a bumper cover mounting bracket pushed a bit out of shape/position.
Porsche doesn't consider the car roadworthy after an accident repair until the car checked out by a qualified tech.
Oh, if you wish to keep the car's warranty intact, all parts must be bought through PCNA, ordered by and purchase from a qualified Porsche dealer, and all mechanical work done by a Porsche tech. PCNA/dealers do not discount parts cost to body shops. Tech labor is where I lived billed at $150/hour and labor is not discounted either.
But the entire vehicle's warranty remains in effect. This is very important. My 03 Turbo was damaged when I hit a mule deer with it I was told the above and took my car to a body shop recommended by a Porsche dealer. I insisted on all new parts and all mechanical work done by the dealer. Cost of repairs came to around $25K. No chassis/frame damage but these cars are not cheap to repair properly. Just recently some problems developed with radiator, fan/hub assembly of a radiator fan, serpentine belt idler roller bearing and transmission. All -- including transmission replacement -- covered by CPO warranty which remained in effect after accident repairs. Had the car lost its CPO warranty coverage, that accident would have cost me out of pocket expenses for those repairs of nearly $14K. (Transmission alone would have cost nearly $12K.)
Sincerely,
Macster.
I got hit at probably 15-25MPH in my 996 by a late 90's Ford Explorer. The road was a 45 MPH speed zone and the kid that hit me didn't realize I was stopped until probably 4-5 car links back. He hit me so hard I rolled into the intersection.
All that was damaged was the bumper shocks as Tim mentioned and a small tear in the bumper.
The 996 rear is pretty robust structurally wise; all panels lined up the same as before.
Yeah, I know it helped I let off the brake because I knew he was coming without plans on stopping. I couldn't punch it (I sure would have) because cars were coming from the left turning.
Now I think of it, it may have been like 2-3 car links back before he realized I was stopped.
That I had my foot off the brake pedal when my Boxster hit from behind may have helped reduce the amount of damage.
Never ever punch it into an intersection even if you see a vehicle coming behind you. While the action seems reasonable, it is not. What will almost certainly happen is you pull out and either hit a car or a car hits your car. Very likely you'll be involved in a t-bone accident and these are the worst.
And the car coming up behind you of course avoids hitting you, manages to stop. Believe me *no* one will note the vehicle stopped where your's was, only that you pulled out on a red light into traffic and the accident will be your fault. You will have plenty of witnesses against you and one of them will be the driver of the vehicle that prompted you to pull out in order to avoid what you believed to be a sure impact.
Sincerely,
Macster.
You were very lucky....because of the drama of it all(your baby getting hit) it seemed worst then it really was...you are allowed.....I had a 78 targa rear ended once and I saw it coming but could not get the car in gear fast enough to get out of the way......bummer.....
Probably the stock parts are out of stock and you'l have to make do with the aero kits available. Too bad.
I wouldn't put a patched plastic or bent back into shape parts in there. Get new.
Yea they are quoting $675 for new bumper and top of line german paint. Seems inexpensive but it is my own body shop so I don't think they would have any reason to lie to me... Unless you goes think other wise. I kind of don't want to even paint the entire bumper... I can alwYs tell whenever a bumper has been repainted no matter how good they blend it or match the color. I don't know what's worse a small scratch that i already forgot about or seeing the slightly off colored bumper.
hold on, you're not making sense
you dont want them to re-paint the whole bumper... but they are replacing the bumper? FOR $700 !!
I suggest being polite and saying "NO THANK YOU"
if they "know whats wrong" without removing the bumper, they are not Porsche People... find a new shop
Id tell your insurance company, you want porsche to fix the car....let them rack up the bill, no reason you should short change yourself for some idiot.
Emdog,
Did the other car hit the bumperettes? If so, they need to remove the bumper cover and check the impact bars inside the bumperettes. Those are "one and done" sacrificail parts to minimize more serious (a.k.a. costly) damage.
If the damage is truly as little as you are now stating, then instead of the thread title reading "Rear Ended" it should read "Someone Kissed My ***!"
It felt like they rammed my ***(I don't know what that feels like..not that there's anything wrong with that)......yea I figured that would be the case with the bumperettes. I wanted to have everything done without insurance. O well we'll see this sTuday when they check it out.
I understand some of those "reasons" and that's cool and all, but if you got hit and it felt like you got rammed.... the car suffered, end of story.
you CAN opt for a cheap repair and trust me being a guy who has bought a car poorly repaired, it can really suck, but to keep the car with a clean carfax and all makes sense too (or whatever the thought is)
In the end its your car, I met a guy who was driving a 996 with a hole thru the front bumper where the hood meet it, he was OK with it... so ya know, whatever....myself, I was just giving you the scoop as to what the real car issues might be, and how you choose to deal with the info is completely up to you... no hard feelings here
Ha..if I rammed her than maybe she would have gotten off Scott free! Of course I have a license. You guys are right, I'm going to get it checked out by a professional that is recommend by my local Porsche shop, I don't want to get screwed down the road. My girl wants this car anyways and is forcing me to get a 997 haha.
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