Hi:
New to Planet 9 and planning to buy an ‘09-12 Boxster S. Planning to Sharkify and have been trying to figure out best trade-off between low miles, maintenance history and $ price.
For those of you w/ higher mileage S’s, what should be my key concerns for cars > 50k miles?
Been thinking I would focus on cars w/ <50k, but am willing to consider higher mileage cars if concerns are unwarranted. Thanks,
John
For 6-12 year old cars the search for <50k miles means your asking for 4-9k a year. Definitely possible but not sure if worth any premium. I'm at 75k miles and haven't fixed anything. I'm just following typical maintenance schedules with some extra effort due to track use. No difference from 50k-75k.
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Thanks. What about the clutch? I've heard from some activity on the
Pelican
board that clutches are ~60k, depending on use.
I am a very "spirited" driver, but for all the Porsches I've owned, none needed a clutch before 100k miles.
To your point about miles and available cars, there are currently a TON of 2008 cars for sale w/ everything from 11-100k miles. Have not found 1 2009 yet that didn't have
PDK
(1st year); and then a smattering of 2010, 11 and 12 cars, but way fewer than 2008. Everyone's asking the stars and moon for RS60's, and they're indeed up my alley, but I'm trying to focus on 987.2's w/out
IMS
bearings and direct injection, and
Sport Chrono
option. I'm tempted by 2007 or 08's--especially the RS60's, but think I will hold out for the right '09-12 car.
I drove a 2010 a week ago w/
Sport Chrono
and the performance was stellar. In fact, why did Porsche even do a Sport button?!? Just leave it in Sport mode all the time. However, I was a little surprised how "heavy" the controls felt compared to other P-cars I've owned (3 911's '70, '72, and '86, and a 914). Clutch, gas pedal, and steering were all heavier and required much more input than any of those cars, and even heavier than my current DD, an '04 R32. Loved the overall solid feel of the car top up or down, and the HP/torque was spectacular all across the rev band. Passed b/c it wasn't the right car but informative as a test-drive.
Will keep looking.
Re: Mileage for 987.2’s
I have a 12 CS with 49,000 Km (30,600 miles), and while it has been reliable I wouldn't describe it as bulletproof. At an average of 5k miles a year, it's not a garage queen (it's often a third vehicle that gets used regularly but not generally a DD)...but there are things i'd look at VERY closely if considering one with lower mileage. Mine had two full sets of front summer tires, and is on it's third set of rears (I've also nearly worn out a full set of winter tires); on a garage queen it's quite possible the front tires will have "timed out" on years, though not necessarily tread wear. I've also been fastidious about doing oil AND brake fluid changes (as well as plugs) on time rather than mileage, but someone that only puts on a couple of thousand miles a year may or may not see value in doing maintenance by the book.
You'll find there are few 987.2s at all, but 2012s are especially rare. If someone has a low-mileage one with full history, they may well expect a hefty premium over an equivalent 09, 10 or 11. I get a couple of unsolicited offers a year for my '12, and in talking with the folks looking to buy, they're prepared to pony up for the combo of low miles/maintenance records/last of the 987.2s. The expectation has been established with owners that the '12s are the most special even though they're not any different from the earlier versions.
Re: Mileage for 987.2’s
My experience with 2009 and later cars is that they are pretty damn bulletproof with no glaring mechanical issues that are common. No IMS, better cooling, better oiling throughout, 4 scavenge pumps just like a Cup car essentially eliminates oil starvation. It is a complete motor redesign in 2009 and they engineered out the weaknesses of the earlier 986/987. A fresh water pump is recommended at 50k on all water cooled Porsches, and a clutch will last as long as the driver preserves it. Dumping the clutch for stoplight racing will wear them prematurely, but normal wear and tear they still tend to go 100k miles.
Because these cars were built during the deep recession their overall availability is low but worth waiting for IMO. Find a nice unmolested car or one that has been carefully maintained and buy it.
Re: Mileage for 987.2’s
Thanks for the replies; helps a lot. I definitely feel like the '12 interiors w/ black gauges overall look more refined than even a few years before. All in all, very exciting, and, as the late TP said so well, "the waiting's the hardest part..."
Cheers,
John
Re: Mileage for 987.2’s
Two weeks ago, I picked up my nused 987.2; 29k mile S 6-speed. What a pleasant surprise compared to the 60k mile 2010 S I drove back in November.
This car is silky smooth, handles really well across all surfaces, and feels like it was forged from a solid block of steel. The controls are still a bit heavier than my VW, but not nearly as numb as the other higher-mileage Boxster was.
The car has the Milltek exhaust which is really sweet. Very quiet cruising all the way back from Chicago to DC--a real pleasure, but sporty when you wind it up and the top is down. I've ordered a BMC filter from Softronic and will follow that up w/ a Stage 2 93-0ctane ECU tune from Evolution Motorsports. Looking forward to an even enhanced driving experience w/ additional power, torque, and throttle response.
Cheers,
John
Re: Mileage for 987.2’s
Congrats on the purchase. What year, what options, how much did you have to spend?
Just picked up a 987.2 Black Edition with 35k miles
It literally looks like it just rolled out of the showroom - the seats and interior look untouched
I just replaced the internal and number plate bulbs with
LEDs
as the yellow lights were the only thing letting the side down
