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Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more!

Blimey, thats 10k more expensive than the one Paragon sold just before Christmas, and they're not known for their bargain prices either.

Beanoir said: Blimey, thats 10k more expensive than the one Paragon sold just before Christmas, and they're not known for their bargain prices either. This one has all the most desirable options that people want - Spyder wheels, manual, carbon buckets, PCCBs, PSE, short shifter and doesn't have any unnecessary weight added back in. Got to make sure you compare specs on these cars to judge the price.

That's about what I paid for mine new! They couldn't give them away at launch, crazy world we live in.

g7jhp said: Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more! A good spec plus pccb is more like £20k more! Looks quiet cheap when you consider what other low volume pork is going for these days! And some not all that good!

g7jhp said: Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more! All 80 981 Spyders pre sold in UK...........

DAWRacing said: Beanoir said: Blimey, thats 10k more expensive than the one Paragon sold just before Christmas, and they're not known for their bargain prices either. This one has all the most desirable options that people want - Spyder wheels, manual, carbon buckets, PCCBs, PSE, short shifter and doesn't have any unnecessary weight added back in. Got to make sure you compare specs on these cars to judge the price. I am and it did bar the PCCB which are not worth £10k. Give it 5 years and £50k might be the right value.

Beanoir said: DAWRacing said: Beanoir said: Blimey, thats 10k more expensive than the one Paragon sold just before Christmas, and they're not known for their bargain prices either. This one has all the most desirable options that people want - Spyder wheels, manual, carbon buckets, PCCBs, PSE, short shifter and doesn't have any unnecessary weight added back in. Got to make sure you compare specs on these cars to judge the price. I am and it did bar the PCCB which are not worth £10k. Give it 5 years and £50k might be the right value. I'm sure the seller might be open to offers

I think if the 981 Spyder had not come up this year then this car would have be sold by now. Personally as an owner of a Spyder, I seriously think the cars are worth the money that people are asking for them. Just consider myself lucky that I bought at the near the bottom of the market As it is reasonably close to the current price of the new Spyder is will put a lot of people off. However the simple facts are that if your names not down for a 981 Spyder, your not getting one. Therefore you either wait for for someone to sell a 981 Spyder (probably at a greater premium than new, possibly +£5-10k) or get a 987 and enjoy the car. Reckon their will come a time when the 987 exceed the 981 prices due to their driver feel (i.e. shorter wheel base and no electronic nuances to dilute the experience - exactly why a test drive in a 981 fell way shorts for me). However I think that this will be about 5 years off. Waiting for the Evo back to back comparison with much anticipation George Edited by douglasgdmw on Thursday 23 April 23:43 Edited by douglasgdmw on Thursday 23 April 23:44

looks great, better car then the new spyder imo. although 150 all sold

DAWRacing said: Beanoir said: Blimey, thats 10k more expensive than the one Paragon sold just before Christmas, and they're not known for their bargain prices either. This one has all the most desirable options that people want - Spyder wheels, manual, carbon buckets, PCCBs, PSE, short shifter and doesn't have any unnecessary weight added back in. Got to make sure you compare specs on these cars to judge the price. ^ This. Best specced Spyder I've ever seen. Ultra low milage. Price seems indicative of that. It's one of the true gems of recent times, and I think it's starting to be recognised as such. Get one like that, and I'm not sure you can get much better. Edited by juansolo on Friday 24th April 08:48

PorscheGT4 said: looks great, better car then the new spyder imo. although 150 all sold Car that you own is better than car that you've not driven? An unbiased opinion...??

av185 said: g7jhp said: Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more! All 80 981 Spyders pre sold in UK........... True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving!

g7jhp said: True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving! Yep, that interior looks awful. I hate the silver wheels too, and that steering wheel!!

Sarnie said: g7jhp said: True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving! Yep, that interior looks awful. I hate the silver wheels too, and that steering wheel!! I'd definitely want a stereo in the car, not quite as fussed about CC if I was after a Spyder, but a lot of buyers wanted it apparently. That steering wheel does look like poverty spec, why didn't they use the same wheel as the R...??

Beanoir said: Sarnie said: g7jhp said: True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving! Yep, that interior looks awful. I hate the silver wheels too, and that steering wheel!! I'd definitely want a stereo in the car, not quite as fussed about CC if I was after a Spyder, but a lot of buyers wanted it apparently. That steering wheel does look like poverty spec, why didn't they use the same wheel as the R...?? I guess that's you two off the potential buyers list Radio and a bling steering wheel can both be retro fitted if that's your preference.

FWIW, the radio is dreadful in it. Brother specced it in his and never uses it.

DAWRacing said: Beanoir said: Sarnie said: g7jhp said: True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving! Yep, that interior looks awful. I hate the silver wheels too, and that steering wheel!! I'd definitely want a stereo in the car, not quite as fussed about CC if I was after a Spyder, but a lot of buyers wanted it apparently. That steering wheel does look like poverty spec, why didn't they use the same wheel as the R...?? I guess that's you two off the potential buyers list Radio and a bling steering wheel can both be retro fitted if that's your preference. Ooops, is it your car??

g7jhp said: True, so if you've got one coming you're a lucky man av185! I agree it's a decent spec, I just believe 99% of buyers would prefer a stereo versus any weight saving! And think of the weight of all that cow hide!! Not sure if I would spec ceramics though at c 10 percent of the cars new cost. Question is.......would the car be more attractive at c £44k with steels and no leather.

Sarnie said: Ooops, is it your car?? Great to see the diametrically opposed opinions this car stimulates, passion at both ends of the spectrum - shows we all don't necessarily like the same things

Absolutely, the single only thing I'd do to that if it was mine is sort the rear badge to this:

No sports chrono though! The sport button makes a massive difference when you fancy a spirited drive, pretty much like a cable throttle in terms of responsiveness. The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you!

jayxx83 said: No sports chrono though! The sport button makes a massive difference when you fancy a spirited drive, pretty much like a cable throttle in terms of responsiveness. The radio although not a harmon kardon or Bose isn't that bad. Just have to keep the loudness mode off. When presetting a radio station however, the confirmation beep is so loud it goes straight through you! £600 to retrofit if you must have it. Only a small improvement to throttle response and don't believe you can't have a spirited drive without it.

crakin spec, good value good investment even at 50K. who needs a radio with a spots exhaust

av185 said: And think of the weight of all that cow hide!! Not sure if I would spec ceramics though at c 10 percent of the cars new cost. Question is.......would the car be more attractive at c £44k with steels and no leather. no, the PCCB and leather are the best bits ;-) the 4 pots are pretty s t on the steels hence we see the GT4 and even the 981 SPyder get better brakes. the 6 pots on the PCCB are amazing, and if you want to fit steel disks its easy as you have the yellow 6 pot calipers, PCCB is a massive selling point even for people who don't want to run ceramic disks. the leather just lifts the car from Lotus £30k spec to a more upmarket feel, any Porsche sans leather is quite plastic and not nice at all imo.

juansolo said: Absolutely, the single only thing I'd do to that if it was mine is sort the rear badge to this: Agree this does look much better and cuts down on Porsche's excess name badging. Also removes weight! Surprised nobody has removed their badges and replaced them with stickers!

g7jhp said: Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more! I love it without the stereo. Proper lightweight focus - incl PCCBs. What is not to like (but for the price maybe)?

Dr S said: What is not to like (but for the price maybe)? Those silly door pulls?

Dr S said: g7jhp said: Should have ticked the no cost option box for stereo IMO. A little expensive price wise considering you could have a brand new 981 Spyder for £10k more! I love it without the stereo. Proper lightweight focus - incl PCCBs. What is not to like (but for the price maybe)? I'm sure the price will be negotiable for a genuine buyer

With 15 991 gt3 for sale at opc alone and not selling and only one spyder then surely a low mileage nice spec. Spyder for a third even a quarter of the price looks bloody good value!

Apples and pears......cannot compare the Syder and 991 GT3......clearly totally different cars in totally different price categories. 15 cars is c only 7 percent of UK stock and only a handful are the 'right' spec and mileage. 991 GT3 is cheap relative to its proven nearest rival.....the Speciale, at over twice the list price new.

GT3 at £160k can never been see as good value Imo.

PorscheGT4 said: GT3 at £160k can never been see as good value Imo. No surprise there then lol. I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS. Nothing else comes close.

I have had the good fortune to drive this car around Silverstone and can report it is a fantastic drive, a really focused sports car. Wonderful poise and balance, plenty of performance and lovely soundtrack. It's a low numbers modern classic so relative to price of something else the ticks those boxes (esp a Porsche) I think they are worth the money IMO. B

av185 said: No surprise there then lol. I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS. Nothing else comes close. A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari. Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change ! People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value ! I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo.

PorscheGT4 said: A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari. Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change ! People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value ! I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo. I agree, but what's a mortgage?

PorscheGT4 said: A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari. Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change ! People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value ! I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo. Most people?

i am sorry to offend any one but in the real world on the road at under £70k the spyder 987 and 981 the 987CR the 981gt4 the 997.2 gts just look such good value compared to those cars and not just porsche that cost twice/three times as much!then some think a low volume less built than a 991 gt3 that also does not have a race engine that a 987spyder at a mear £50k is expensive!

PorscheGT4 said: av185 said: No surprise there then lol. I agree the 3.8 RS is too expensive. But the 991 is on a different level and cheap compared to the twice as dear Speciale (new) and projected £230 to £250 k likely on the 991 RS. Nothing else comes close. A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari. Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change ! People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value ! I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo. After running a 458 Italia it is not just me who found it nowhere near as involving as a 991 GT3. And at say £160k the car will be twice as old. Hugely more expensive depreciation wise as well.....which can take the shine off F ownership very rapidly. Nice car though. If you read all the 'quality' tests between the GT3 and Speciale, most conclude they were very evenly matched....mind you, the GT3 has always tended to bat well above its weight as you know full well. Quite remarkable for a car costing half as much to be pitched against the mighty F in the first place. Be interesting to see what the RS can do to the F.....could well be a forgone conclusion...... The GT4 and Turbo S are great cars but apples and pears to the GT3. If you think a 991 GT3 sits at £120k you would be outbid by £25k immediately......and that's by the trade!!!!

av185 said: After running a 458 Italia it is not just me who found it nowhere near as involving as a 991 GT3. And at say £160k the car will be twice as old. Hugely more expensive depreciation wise as well.....which can take the shine off F ownership very rapidly. Nice car though. If you read all the 'quality' tests between the GT3 and Speciale, most conclude they were very evenly matched....mind you, the GT3 has always tended to bat well above its weight as you know full well. Quite remarkable for a car costing half as much to be pitched against the mighty F in the first place. Be interesting to see what the RS can do to the F.....could well be a forgone conclusion...... The GT4 and Turbo S are great cars but apples and pears to the GT3. If you think a 991 GT3 sits at £120k you would be outbid by £25k immediately......and that's by the trade!!!! how many miles have you in 458 & 991/3 please ?

2k miles a piece.....

You also think a GT4 will take £25k over list ! I'll sell my slot tomorrow for £25k and let buyer choose spec. That would fund 2 years 458 use. I am not sue how much down the line a normal 458 is over the speciale , as I have only driven the latter. But I,ll take the risk for £25k overs :-)

nsm3 said: PorscheGT4 said: A speciale is on another level again IMO, but a £135k 458 would be most people choice in the 2nd hand market vs a 991 GT3. At £160k. A Speciale is more the car to go head to head vs a 991 RS. And I would still take the Ferrari. Or buy a GT4 for £70k and put £90k off your mortgage. Or get a 997.2 turbo S with the £90k and still have change ! People are a bet screwed in the head to think some of these values are great value ! I don't see any more worth than £120k for a 991 GT3 but that's only imo. I agree, but what's a mortgage? That thing us peasants pay

PorscheGT4 said: You also think a GT4 will take £25k over list ! I'll sell my slot tomorrow for £25k and let buyer choose spec. That would fund 2 years 458 use. I am not sue how much down the line a normal 458 is over the speciale , as I have only driven the latter. But I,ll take the risk for £25k overs :-) Just wait for the first OPC car to appear. Seems bizarre that as a self confessed 'old school luddite beard' you openly knock the 991 GT3 yet clamour for the even more digital and tech heavy 458 which is widely regarded as having less grip, poorer turn in, gearbox and steering, synthetic exhaust noise etc etc. Maybe its the delusions of grandeur offered by the Ferrari club that appeals......

One has to have owned a Ferrari, just liked every F1 driver wants to drive for Ferrari. as for it has poorer every thing, I am not so sure on that one esp steering and turn in. I have only driven it for about 20 miles but I was quite amazed by it, where I think the 991 is a bit meh, but then 1st impressions don't count for that much. to quote evo "I really wish the steering wasn’t quite so immediate, as it turns the nose in so hard you feel the tail get a little edgy in an effort to keep up." and watching the 5th gear vid with harris , only one car to own in my eyes every single review of the 458, be it Tiff, Harris or any one else has smiles ear to ear in the 458.

Now in the hands of http://www.thboler.com/used-cars/porsche-boxster-b... if anyone is looking to part exchange or finance the car. Great team to deal with.

PorscheGT4 said: One has to have owned a Ferrari, just liked every F1 driver wants to drive for Ferrari. That is only true if you value it's image or heritage. If that is of no perceived value (it isn't to me) then you would only consider it if it was the best in class by whatever other criteria you choose. The same is true of any brand.

458 does also seem best in class.

PorscheGT4 said: 458 does also seem best in class. I haven't driven one - but, from what I have read, might accept that as a working hypothesis - but I don't regard a manual gearbox as fundamental to my driving enjoyment. On the other hand you have nailed your colours to the mast regarding auto boxes. So you, if you are consistent, must surely discount it on gearbox grounds alone.

Joy of owning 3 or 4 cars not all have to be manual. Just the one I just to hone my skilled and find interesting to play with at weekends. I would not be dull and have 100% automatics like some.