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Install bar is just as capable

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Incidentally the back end of the 996 on models lend themselves well to a towbar, it's no different design wise to BMW/VW at the end of the chassis legs, a well fitted bar is just as capable on a 911 as any normal car.

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Test by manufacturer so shouldn't be

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But hasn't been tested by manufacturer so shouldn't be used to tow trailers etc.

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Use towbar mounted bike rack

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You can't tow / fit a towbar on / use a towbar mounted bike rack on a M140i as BMW didn't homologated it for towing.

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Install bar is just as capable

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Incidentally the back end of the 996 on models lend themselves well to a towbar, it's no different design wise to BMW/VW at the end of the chassis legs, a well fitted bar is just as capable on a 911 as any normal car.

A 911 towing a what! - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Test by manufacturer so shouldn't be

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But hasn't been tested by manufacturer so shouldn't be used to tow trailers etc.

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Use towbar mounted bike rack

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You can't tow / fit a towbar on / use a towbar mounted bike rack on a M140i as BMW didn't homologated it for towing.

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I did the Le Mans Classic in a red 996 C4S with roof box, it worked really well.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Not photoshopped, snapped by my own phone hand this wk near Lyon, couldn't believe it so snapped some pics-

POST 5Original post

I once pulled alongside a velvet red tiptronic 964 at the Tyne tunnel, which had a towbar on. I'm sure a guy on here made his own a few years back too. May have been the same car.

POST 6Original post

This is why I love the 911. Imagine any other supercar been so practical. I doubt it some how. Great pic.

POST 7Original post

...and I assume he was overtaking you when you spotted it?

POST 8Original post

'manouches' or 'gitans' in france. The travellers. A lot more common than you'd think. God only knows where $$€€ comes from.

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hopeydaze said: ...and I assume he was overtaking you when you spotted it? No I spotted him as I pulled away from peage, no suprise he accellerated away well, I was laden with a car & took miles to catch him as he was towing at a good pace for a tin slug tower, I passed snapped pics & he later passed me as I neared my junction exit.

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erics said: 'manouches' or 'gitans' in france. The travellers. A lot more common than you'd think. God only knows where $$€€ comes from. Laying tarmac badly Guttering badly Stealing Fraud Not paying tax Take your pick LOL!

POST 11Original post

Owner needs to buy a roof box for the full two finger salute

POST 12Original post

Where on earth is the tow attached down there with the exhausts and engine immediately behind the bumper. And am sorry but I find the idea of pulling a "roulotte" with a 911 even more revolting than with a plain vanilla family car. Horrid

POST 13Original post

What ? Actually I tug my shed with a Merc, I don't hold anyone up. Regards

POST 14Original post

I did the Le Mans Classic in a red 996 C4S with roof box, it worked really well. The guy behind me in a 997 GT3RS looked worried at 140mph - I had forgotten it was there! Ooops!

POST 15Original post

I was under the impression that in Europe you can only use approved tow bars, no way can this be approved by Porsche? Unless of course the UK is the only country in Europe taking the European rules seriously, but I can't see that My old man was looking for one to fit to a TT to tow a small boat but nothing is approved by Audi so couldn't...

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marky911 said: I'm sure a guy on here made his own a few years back too. May have been the same car. Yes that was us, made a few for odd cars, it all started with my old mans 996 after a right botch job by a well regarded towbar specialist in the UK that makes them to order who made the bar to bolt to the bodywork and the engine. Result a solidly mounted engine that transmitted all it's vibrations along the bar in to the shell. The one we made is totally invisible when not fitted, has a neat flying lead for the electrics tucked up in the engine compartment. Obviously it's only for a bike rack though...... Incidentally the back end of the 996 on models lend themselves well to a towbar, it's no different design wise to BMW/VW at the end of the chassis legs, a well fitted bar is just as capable on a 911 as any normal car. But hasn't been tested by manufacturer so shouldn't be used to tow trailers etc.

POST 17Original post

Even using it for a bike rack wouldn’t be allowed though right or is it really only “actual” towing that requires type approval?

POST 18Original post

Illegal unless the car is homologated for towing and there is a train weight stamped on the VIN plate. You can't tow / fit a towbar on / use a towbar mounted bike rack on a M140i as BMW didn't homologated it for towing. (But they did for the 128ti) Edited by elan362 on Monday 3rd April 02:33

POST 19Original post

Jeez, i hadn’t noticed….. what a necrobump!!!

POST 20Original post

Vic Elford used to tow a caravan with a 911 in the 60s. At 90mph+ speeds too.

POST 21Original post

Random thread resurrection. More importantly, it's nine years, eleven months exactly since Crimp was banned. He'll have been doing something useful all of that time instead of being on PH https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... Edited by Orangecurry on Wednesday 12th April 18:44

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