Champion Motorsport | Tubi Style NA - May Open House

After the success of our first open house earlier this year, we decided it was time to have another one before the blazing hot summer months attack us here in South Florida. You can see some coverage from our first event here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ouse-pics.html https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...pen-house.html This is a great opportunity to meet fellow enthusiasts, explore our shop, talk to the staff, check out our recent projects, and get a glimpse at some future projects and new products. Below are the details....the date will be Saturday May 11th, from 9am until 1:30pm. Like last time, we'll have complimentary refreshments and food on site for everyone, as well as discount coupons and prize raffles for all attendees. Come join us!

Yesterday I visited Champion Motorsports to discuss the work that I want them to do on my car (install the upgraded intercoolers/Y pipe, datalogging with the new mods to ensure they are functioning properly and eliminating my car's heat soak issue and possibly changing to catless exhaust). As usual, Tom was terrific and informative. And finally some good news for those of us waiting so long for their intercoolers for the 991 TT and TTS -- they will hit the market very very shortly (as in days not weeks). They have enough finished product for an initial run of about 14 sets. Shortly they will write their instruction manual for installers and the kits will be released. These will not be cheap as they included huge upgraded ICs, a Y pipe and what looks like very upscale carbon tubing. Here are my photos of the new IC kit parts and comparison photos of their new ICs vs the stock ICs. The Champion ICs (on the left in the pics) are a lot wider than the stock ones (on the right in the pics) and have more rows in their core -- meaning that there is a much larger surface area for heat exchange than the stock ICs. The GIAC tune that is paired with the new ICs (I have no idea what GIAC is calling it but I would call it Stage 3) is supposed to be a lot more aggressive than the Stage 2 tune. I am told there is a significant power bump in absolute bhp and torque and that there will be a lot more power at higher RPMs (as I understand it, due to the enhanced intercooling they can push the turbos harder at higher RPMs than with stock cooling). I know what the numbers are but I certainly wouldn't scoop Champion and GIAC in putting them out. What I can say is that they are excellent and don't rely on water/meth injection, nitrous, sensor/cat-destroying leaded race gas or other techniques to get there (although I am sure with those other techniques the power would be greater still). Can't wait until cars with these new IC/Y-pipe kits starting hitting the dragstrip so we can see the performance difference in the real world. I certainly hope and expect that the real world numbers will mirror the big gains being seen on the dyno. Maybe we will even see nines in the quarter mile in the fall when the air is cool. They are also actively testing and datalogging a turbo upgrade. That looks to be at least a few months away from market. When I was there their test car was on the dyno for datalogging for the turbo upgrade (it had both the ICs/Y pipe and the bigger turbos installed). Should be an exciting development for those looking for the really big power.

Road trip!!!

Wow, those look sweet! How much power can the motor and/or PDK safely hold without going boom?!

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Quote: Do it!

Quote: That is a good question to which I, as a customer, do not have an answer. I do know that there is a limit to what the PDK can handle and that the turbo upgrade they are planning will not exceed it. It will be an upgraded VTG using the OEM housing as opposed to massive new turbos and housings. They recognize that there is a limit to the PDK's capability to handle power and they will not be exceeding it.

Added an event invite for those who follow us on Facebook... http://www.facebook.com/events/484047168316585/

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Quote: I will be taking my GIAC stage 2 down to Sonoma raceway for 1/4 mile times. Then I will have this new kit installed and see what kind of times I get

Just a quick bump/reminder about this weekend... Hope to see you guys here!

Quote: Cannot wait to see the difference. I found the GIAC Stage 2 was super strong on launch but not so much by the second 1/8 mile as you could feel the ECU dialing back power

Thanks for the info sdg!

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Quote: I've had the same results, I've ran the Mille 1/2 and mile, my 1st mile run I hit 185 and my second run switched to race tune after initial take off I could really feel boost being dailed back and ran a slower 181. And hit a verified 193 in the mile and 1/2. A 12C and a F-12 both ran a 193 also

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Quote: I have seen info online at ~700whp when the OEM PDK clutches start to slip.

Quote: The tune and ICs will not be at or near 700 wheel horsepower No idea what the turbo upgrade will produce

The real question is what is the power threshold of the stock engine.

Thanks for stopping by, always a pleasure showing folks around the shop and giving a sneak peek behind the curtain. Exciting times are coming for sure...

Quote: It's been a wait for the big power mods to come out for the 991 TT and TTS. I think the products will have been worth the wait. Sick of getting my clock cleaned at events by the 997 Turbos. LOL Always great to see where some of the top drawer stuff gets developed. Did the same thing with Renntech with my E63 S AMG sedan.

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Quote: I have no idea what that is.

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Quote: I can tell you that we will most likely not be pushing it beyond the "safe" threshold we established with the 997.2 Turbo cars, which is about 650-675 whp.

Quote: Is the limitation the PDK? Or that the internals of the engine, without a build, can't safely and reliably take more than that power level?

I can't wait to see the dyno runs for this upgrade posted.

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Quote: Ditto.

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Quote: Quote: Coming very soon. But in the meantime sdg1871, what did your butt-dyno think? (sdg1871 got to take a ride with me this morning in a Stage 2+ equipped car with the intercoolers and updated tune installed. I think I only scared him just a little bit lol.)

Quote: Honestly the car was scary fast. It had the crappy Pirelli PZeros with upgraded intercoolers, Tubi catless and IPD plenum. As modded, the car produces around 600 wheel horsepower (700 crank horsepower) and it is just way too powerful for the tires at low speeds. The tires claw for traction from low speed under WOT in sport plus and you have to hold onto the steering wheel and make strong corrections to keep the car going straight. Car definitely needs much stickier tires than P Zeros to handle that amount of power. It is really really really fast. Felt like a car that with proper tires could break into the nines in the quarter mile. With those stock PZero tires it scared me more than little under WOT In sport plus. I am sure it would be gripper with Pilot Super Sports. Even more so with Pilot Sport Cup 2s, R888s or Trofeo Rs.

We all know this car is crazy fast at low speeds, How does it pull after 60 or 100 or 150? Im hoping its a completely different animal? Dyno runs are cool but I really want to see 1/4 mile 1/2 mile or mile times? FYI I keep looking in the mail every day for my upgrade kit

Quote: It felt really fast under highway acceleration but yes I cannot wait to see how it translates into 1/4 and 1/2 times too

Those Intercoolers look awesome. Great job on those, really nice work.

Quote: I am so happy these are being released to the market. The 991 TT and TTS simply cannot achieve its full power potential on stock ICs. These really do look like high quality products. I could see all of the main pieces and they are made of expensive high quality materials. As far as I know these are the first 991 TT and TTS to hit the market from a U.S. tuner. I am aware that a Turkish tuner has upgraded ICs out but I have not seen much about them. I understand that other U.S. Tuners are working on their own ICs. Let the battle of the mods continue.

My car arrived at Champion Motorsports today. Champion intercoolers and GIAC stage 2 plus tune will be installed as well as FVD headers and IPD Y pipe if it proves to be compatible with the Champion ICs and carbon fiber tubing connecting the ICs with the Y pipe and if it shows a performance gain. Car will be dynoed and datalogged. Also installing the Techart paddle shifters to my multi function wheel in black with red trim to match my interior. Hoping the heat soak will be eliminated and that the car will be capable of a quarter mile in the nines at sea level in the cool fall air.

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Quote: SD keep us posted with the results, I talked with IPD today and ordered mine and they just shipped 4 Y pipes today to Champion. I cant imagine why it wouldn't fit.

Quote: Thanks! Yes one of those Y pipes is for my car. I assume they will be compatible as well. But Champion has to test to ensure compatibility and gains.

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Quote: After you I'll be next.

Quote: Yes there is a huge line of us waiting for these mods. Huge.

I had a chat with Tom about a week ago. Actually right before Sean surprised me that ours were done. It's really going to be awesome and I'm sure everything will fit great with awesome results as usual!