6 to 7 GT3 - made the jump - Page 4 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Evening After a lot of soul searching I decided today to swap my 996.2 GT3 for a 997.1 GT3 Clubsport. My biggest worry was that I would miss the 6 and find it hard to replace, but then thought life is short, all about experiences and as an enthusiast of the marque I should own a 7 GT3 at some point. Plus the one I have bought looks epic - see below - which helps! Slowly ticking the variants off in chronological order as have done both generations of 6 GT3 now. Just 7.2 and the RS versions to go... As per other thread I'll be running this car on OEM actives for a while to understand how they work on road and track and then will switch to passive shocks at some point next year. Short test drive revealed a much more composed road car with more low down grunt. A better picture will be revealed at Silly GP on 23rd Nov! Cheers Slodge

Looks great, I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Fair play to you. The car looks lovely. Funnily enough I was having exactly the same thoughts today with my mk1GT3, clubsport spec. I noticed the JZM car and thought that looked lovely, almost identical to your one in the pics. Bet you will find the 997 so much easier to drive fast on our harsh roads, hope you don't miss the 6 but as you say nice to try everything. I would have liked the orange RS997 from an earlier post recently. Enjoy the new car, did you trade in the 996. Thought would sell fast privately?

SET3 said: Fair play to you. The car looks lovely. Funnily enough I was having exactly the same thoughts today with my mk1GT3, clubsport spec. I noticed the JZM car and thought that looked lovely, almost identical to your one in the pics. Bet you will find the 997 so much easier to drive fast on our harsh roads, hope you don't miss the 6 but as you say nice to try everything. I would have liked the orange RS997 from an earlier post recently. Enjoy the new car, did you trade in the 996. Thought would sell fast privately? Thanks dude, I thought about 997.1 RS but TBH they are getting to the level where I'd think twice about using it as intended. Traded the 6.2. Had a lot of mods so thought best plan was to sell through the Indy that did all the work on it, plus they are good mates go always do me a very good deal! MK 1 GT3 CS is a very special thing, but we can't help chopping our cars around. Whatever you decide you'll have a great machine! Cheers Slodge

wow. trigger pulled. nice one. Spa next year then.

Lovely car, identical to one I used to own!

Lovely car, identical to one I used to own!

HokumPokum said: wow. trigger pulled. nice one. Spa next year then. Yep - can't quite believe it yet! Summer Spa trip is a definite dude, plus DN at the Ring if you want to bring the caged beast?! Can't do Brands next, but back at Silly GP on 23rd Nov. Have fun. Cheers Slodge

Deserter! Just kidding. Well done! Its good to make a positive move. Hopefully I'll see you on the 23rd...may have to have a pax ride.

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LaSource said: Deserter! Just kidding. Well done! Its good to make a positive move. Hopefully I'll see you on the 23rd...may have to have a pax ride. Ha ha! With your collection I must have a foot in one of your camps. Funds allowing I'd like to add a 6 Cup to the stable next year so well may be back in fold. See you on the 23rd and you know pax laps not a problem. Will obviously be slower than you now though Cheers Slodge

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jackal said: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ! Jackal - part of me is saying the same thing! However looking forward to trying something new and having the experience to compare and contrast a few GT3 iterations. I can always go back should I find the lure of the dark side not strong enough!! Keeping your beaut now then? Cheers Slodge

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slodge said: Ha ha! With your collection I must have a foot in one of your camps. Funds allowing I'd like to add a 6 Cup to the stable next year so well may be back in fold. See you on the 23rd and you know pax laps not a problem. Will obviously be slower than you now though Cheers Slodge You do realise that speed on track is inversely proportional to cost of chariot. Hence I am fastest in the 6gt3

keep it lit said:

black beauty btw

keep it lit said: black beauty btw That's also the name my wife gave it, so seems it will stick! Hope all is well. Cheers Slodge

Nice one Slodge. Great all rounder and one of the best looking gt3's IMO.

Great move. I sold a 6RS to get back in one and not missing never driving a museum piece as you say life too short. My 7GT3 is more fun to drive 90% of the time and IMO far better to look at oh and makes a far better noise

GT Two said: Nice one Slodge. Great all rounder and one of the best looking gt3's IMO. Thanks Lee - the seats we swapped have been a great addition and really completed the package. Cheers Slodge

slodge said: Thanks Lee - the seats we swapped have been a great addition and really completed the package. Cheers Slodge Slodge-what seats did you swap?

Scooty100 said: Slodge-what seats did you swap? When I started the project I swapped the original comfort sports seats with Lee for some leather OEM GT3 buckets that he was taking out of his then car. They are being sold with the GT3 I'm afraid. Cheers Slodge

slodge said: When I started the project I swapped the original comfort sports seats with Lee for some leather OEM GT3 buckets that he was taking out of his then car. They are being sold with the GT3 I'm afraid. Cheers Slodge Slodge sorry m8 im lost- Project? So you now have the 7GT3 with 997 CS seats to replace the comforts that were originally in the RPM car? What 6GT3 did you have? Sorry im catching up. My 7GT3 is full CS and I love the buckets

Scooty100 said: Slodge sorry m8 im lost- Project? So you now have the 7GT3 with 997 CS seats to replace the comforts that were originally in the RPM car? What 6GT3 did you have? Sorry im catching up. My 7GT3 is full CS and I love the buckets Hi mate. No worries! Bought a 996.2 GT3 comfort 2 years ago as a track project. Spent lots on it inc Ohlins, cup diff, cup splitter, cup steering wheel, cup shifter, RSS engine mounts, 997 gearbox mounts, cage and bucket seats (the ones swapped with Lee). Loved it, but today PXed for a 997 GT3 CS. Completely standard (for now ) Cheers Slodge

slodge said: Scooty100 said: Slodge sorry m8 im lost- Project? So you now have the 7GT3 with 997 CS seats to replace the comforts that were originally in the RPM car? What 6GT3 did you have? Sorry im catching up. My 7GT3 is full CS and I love the buckets Hi mate. No worries! Bought a 996.2 GT3 comfort 2 years ago as a track project. Spent lots on it inc Ohlins, cup diff, cup splitter, cup steering wheel, cup shifter, RSS engine mounts, 997 gearbox mounts, cage and bucket seats (the ones swapped with Lee). Loved it, but today PXed for a 997 GT3 CS. Completely standard (for now ) Cheers Slodge You have a better starting point this time mate with the CS spec.

slodge said: Hi mate. No worries! Bought a 996.2 GT3 comfort 2 years ago as a track project. Spent lots on it inc Ohlins, cup diff, cup splitter, cup steering wheel, cup shifter, RSS engine mounts, 997 gearbox mounts, cage and bucket seats (the ones swapped with Lee). Loved it, but today PXed for a 997 GT3 CS. Completely standard (for now ) Cheers Slodge Great now I'm up to speed . Good for you I'm sure you'll love it. Always a great car from RPM for sure and I promise you you'll love it., Way more useable yet will excite you all the same. Enjoy

Welcome to the fold, looks like a cracking example. Main thing to get used to in the 7GT3 compared to the 6, esp in this cold weather will be the TCS, both with sport on and off. I find that 99/100 times its a reliable system that can be leaned on in bad conditions, but on the odd occasion I have had it fully sideways with TCS on and sport on, so just beware that it's not a stability control system and will only do so much. Appreciate you have plenty of experience with no TCS, but just pointing out its still a fairly mild safety net - not like TCS & Stability combined systems on non GT Porsche. Play around with it and see how you go. Enjoy the car! Oh and check out this new suspension module doing the rounds on rennlist, alternative to passives.

S1MMA said: Welcome to the fold, looks like a cracking example. Main thing to get used to in the 7GT3 compared to the 6, esp in this cold weather will be the TCS, both with sport on and off. I find that 99/100 times its a reliable system that can be leaned on in bad conditions, but on the odd occasion I have had it fully sideways with TCS on and sport on, so just beware that it's not a stability control system and will only do so much. Appreciate you have plenty of experience with no TCS, but just pointing out its still a fairly mild safety net - not like TCS & Stability combined systems on non GT Porsche. Play around with it and see how you go. Enjoy the car! Oh and check out this new suspension module doing the rounds on rennlist, alternative to passives. Thanks S1MMA, yes used to getting the 6 moving around but appreciate the comments on TCS. Presumably you turn that off for the track? Any links to the suspension module? Cheers Slodge

Lovely looking car mate, congratulations I have the 'negative' of your car, GT silver with silver wheels, these GT3's really get under your skin! I see you have PCCB's, are you putting on some steels for track work? Alcon conversion from JZM?

V8KSN said: Lovely looking car mate, congratulations I have the 'negative' of your car, GT silver with silver wheels, these GT3's really get under your skin! I see you have PCCB's, are you putting on some steels for track work? Alcon conversion from JZM? Thanks! Yes they are very addictive cars - can't wait to have a long drive on my own. PCCBs unused and nicely packed away in a box, Alcons on the front and Porsche OEM steels on the back with Pagid R29s all round. Found it worked well on the 6 so keeping that set up for now. Cheers Slodge

It will be interesting to hear how you find it compared to the 996.

Im not sure what to do with my Ceramics. Im thinking keep them then when the pads need replacing have the conversion then. I was very cautious on a recent track day, let them warm up and cool down but still nervous of potential disaster!

Scooty100 said: Im not sure what to do with my Ceramics. Im thinking keep them then when the pads need replacing have the conversion then. I was very cautious on a recent track day, let them warm up and cool down but still nervous of potential disaster! I get the conundrum! I think my view was in the long term if these cars keep rising in value at some point they will get into the beardy realm and at that point people want fully original spec. Also the cost of replacement of PCCBs is properly eye watering. Rotors are an easy swap and Alcons can stand up to some monstrous hammering. Cheers Slodge

alcon/Surface transform/movit do carbon replacements for less cost than OEM. 6k all round last time i checked. I would do those instead if RPM hasn't gotten the steels on.

Link http://www.tpcracing.com/dsc.html

slodge said: I get the conundrum! I think my view was in the long term if these cars keep rising in value at some point they will get into the beardy realm and at that point people want fully original spec. Also the cost of replacement of PCCBs is properly eye watering. Rotors are an easy swap and Alcons can stand up to some monstrous hammering. Cheers Slodge is this not your car slodge? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Scooty100 said: slodge said: I get the conundrum! I think my view was in the long term if these cars keep rising in value at some point they will get into the beardy realm and at that point people want fully original spec. Also the cost of replacement of PCCBs is properly eye watering. Rotors are an easy swap and Alcons can stand up to some monstrous hammering. Cheers Slodge is this not your car slodge? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Sure is. Sold!! Cheers Slodge

Stunner good man

Congrats Slodge - looks cracking. I will be interested in how you enjoy it. Do you mind me asking where your 996 is likely to turn up for sale?

lboase said: Congrats Slodge - looks cracking. I will be interested in how you enjoy it. Do you mind me asking where your 996 is likely to turn up for sale? Thanks and no worries. Give Grieg at RPM Technik a call! Cheers Slodge

slodge said: Jackal - part of me is saying the same thing! However looking forward to trying something new and having the experience to compare and contrast a few GT3 iterations. I can always go back should I find the lure of the dark side not strong enough!! Keeping your beaut now then? Cheers Slodge Yep, you can always go back. Was never selling mine really. Just had a crazy plan to find a mug to give me the funds to swap it for the 996rs but even if i could, the basic mk1 is the better car for me deep down.

jackal said: Yep, you can always go back. At twice the price knowing my luck! Glad you are keeping the Mk1, very special car. Have a good one. Cheers Slodge

jackal said: slodge said: Jackal - part of me is saying the same thing! However looking forward to trying something new and having the experience to compare and contrast a few GT3 iterations. I can always go back should I find the lure of the dark side not strong enough!! Keeping your beaut now then? Cheers Slodge Yep, you can always go back. Was never selling mine really. Just had a crazy plan to find a mug to give me the funds to swap it for the 996rs but even if i could, the basic mk1 is the better car for me deep down. correct Richard, the MK1 is the one... did I mention I've just put a fresh 3.9L in mine f king hell !!!

Is it back together, Ade? Bring it round next week. You can see my new one. It's only got 3.8l though

A new one jack? Cannot make my mind up what to do with mine - I might be able to get my hands on a 997.1CS this week but not sure if selling mine is the right thing to do?

Shep, a 997.2 GTS The 996.2 GT3 is in the garage

Shep911 said: A new one jack? Cannot make my mind up what to do with mine - I might be able to get my hands on a 997.1CS this week but not sure if selling mine is the right thing to do? If you can afford to, I'd say try to keep the 996GT3 - try out the 997.1CS and then see which you prefer...again, if you can afford to, keep both anyway! You may find you prefer one for enthusiastic track use and the other for sunday road driving... ...plus there is very little £ penalty for keeping both..or the contrary even.

Good advice - totally on board with that, but the missus' outrageous demands to move to a house with a garden now we have kids might scupper that plan......... Otherwise sounds like utopia to me!!!!

jackwood said: Shep, a 997.2 GTS The 996.2 GT3 is in the garage Holy moly - one of each - like it What's the GTS like - you never seem to see any negative comments about them - pics?

That was my plan initially, but renovation of a new house took priority over 2 x GT3s unfortunately. I hope I have enough left over to get a 6GT3 CS next year or better still a 6Cup! Cheers Slodge

LaSource said: If you can afford to, I'd say try to keep the 996GT3 - try out the 997.1CS and then see which you prefer...again, if you can afford to, keep both anyway! You may find you prefer one for enthusiastic track use and the other for sunday road driving... ...plus there is very little £ penalty for keeping both..or the contrary even. Crikey LaSource how many gt3s do you have? 3 is just being greedy....or is it 4?! .....;)

bigunit00 said: LaSource said: If you can afford to, I'd say try to keep the 996GT3 - try out the 997.1CS and then see which you prefer...again, if you can afford to, keep both anyway! You may find you prefer one for enthusiastic track use and the other for sunday road driving... ...plus there is very little £ penalty for keeping both..or the contrary even. Crikey LaSource how many gt3s do you have? 3 is just being greedy....or is it 4?! .....;) Dude - he is properly long on GT3s!

So you're preferring the 997 or have you just done the whole 996 thing (at the moment) Having gone from one to the other are they quicker, more solid etc etc - I know this has been done death on here but it sounds like you're a few steps further down the path than me

Shep911 said: So you're preferring the 997 or have you just done the whole 996 thing (at the moment) Having gone from one to the other are they quicker, more solid etc etc - I know this has been done death on here but it sounds like you're a few steps further down the path than me Hi Shep, If I'm completely honest my thought process was: 1. Phhowwwar sexy - love the look of that 7.1 GT3 2. My GT3 comfort, modded to the extreme project is worth how much as a PX?! 3. Short test drive - yep it is still a proper manual GT3, sounds fab and will be far more habitable on Euro trips Am doing Silverstone GP on 23rd November so will report back then after a proper road trip and track session. Cheers Slodge

I'd add that if my 6 had been a clubsport in a loud colour I may have stayed put. I think a heavily modded silver comfort has a ceiling. Very much enjoyed the journey and feel I really understand the platform now. As said earlier you can always go back if you have the coin, but I want to try new things and will never know if I like the 6 over the 7 or vice versa unless I walk the walk and actually own them. Better to have loved and lost... Cheers Slodge Edited by slodge on Sunday 9th November 16:03

Thanks Slodge That's my dilemma - I have a 2005 CS which I've put pretty much back to standard - just waiting for the fire-extinguisher to arrive to get it sorted back to factory spec - I absolutely love it and am almost scared to part with it because 'value' is becoming a increasing part of the ownership package That said, I agree with everything you've mentioned above - the 997 is a great package - looks and sounds amazing - I've always wanted one and being honest only got the 96 'cos I couldn't afford a 997 at the time Choices choices

Shep911 said: Thanks Slodge That's my dilemma - I have a 2005 CS which I've put pretty much back to standard - just waiting for the fire-extinguisher to arrive to get it sorted back to factory spec - I absolutely love it and am almost scared to part with it because 'value' is becoming a increasing part of the ownership package That said, I agree with everything you've mentioned above - the 997 is a great package - looks and sounds amazing - I've always wanted one and being honest only got the 96 'cos I couldn't afford a 997 at the time Choices choices Cripes that is a tricky one Shep. I guess you can console yourself that whatever you decide they are both completely awesome, just slightly different types of awesome! If you want to have some pax laps come to Silly GP on 23rd, there with a few other Porkers in my garage. LaSource also in attendance with his 6 CS for comparison purposes Cheers Slodge

Looks like a very fair price for a nice 997gt3. Be interested to see what your 996 ends up retailing for.....not that I can afford it lol

bigunit00 said: Looks like a very fair price for a nice 997gt3. Be interested to see what your 996 ends up retailing for.....not that I can afford it lol Thanks A, it's a beaut IMO. 6 is going up for a fiver under £50k as I understand it. Lots of interest already apparently. As I said I have no financial interest in it now, but if anyone wants info let me know. No garage queen, but zero over revs and original panels. Cheers Slodge

slodge said: Cripes that is a tricky one Shep. I guess you can console yourself that whatever you decide they are both completely awesome, just slightly different types of awesome! If you want to have some pax laps come to Silly GP on 23rd, there with a few other Porkers in my garage. LaSource also in attendance with his 6 CS for comparison purposes Cheers Slodge Don't have a pax lap with me. You'll want to wrap your 996 in red and keep it for ever Its oh so very well set up....I've been decimating my lap times at key circuits - sillystone, spa, ring (though smaller margin at ring as going faster is just too scary!)

slodge said: Shep911 said: Thanks Slodge That's my dilemma - I have a 2005 CS which I've put pretty much back to standard - just waiting for the fire-extinguisher to arrive to get it sorted back to factory spec - I absolutely love it and am almost scared to part with it because 'value' is becoming a increasing part of the ownership package That said, I agree with everything you've mentioned above - the 997 is a great package - looks and sounds amazing - I've always wanted one and being honest only got the 96 'cos I couldn't afford a 997 at the time Choices choices Cripes that is a tricky one Shep. I guess you can console yourself that whatever you decide they are both completely awesome, just slightly different types of awesome! If you want to have some pax laps come to Silly GP on 23rd, there with a few other Porkers in my garage. LaSource also in attendance with his 6 CS for comparison purposes Cheers Slodge Cheers Slodge - that's a mighty generous offer - much appreciated Depending on the weather I might drop down for a look - not been before

LaSource said: slodge said: Cripes that is a tricky one Shep. I guess you can console yourself that whatever you decide they are both completely awesome, just slightly different types of awesome! If you want to have some pax laps come to Silly GP on 23rd, there with a few other Porkers in my garage. LaSource also in attendance with his 6 CS for comparison purposes Cheers Slodge Don't have a pax lap with me. You'll want to wrap your 996 in red and keep it for ever Its oh so very well set up....I've been decimating my lap times at key circuits - sillystone, spa, ring (though smaller margin at ring as going faster is just too scary!) Ha know what you mean - nurburgring is getting far too dodgy - even if you are some kind of god and can drive fast whilst keeping it on the Tarmac there remains a chance you'll get torpedo'd by some loon in a mini metro.......

LaSource said: Don't have a pax lap with me. You'll want to wrap your 996 in red and keep it for ever Its oh so very well set up....I've been decimating my lap times at key circuits - sillystone, spa, ring (though smaller margin at ring as going faster is just too scary!) Having watched your Spa video I am certain I made the right choice with my K400. In fact I may join you at Sillystone - still got to figure out how she drives in the dry (fingers crossed the weather gods smile upon us on the day). Setterton in the wet was a right hoot, if only I was missing my flippers and schnorkel... Would love to bag a px lap if possible.

Cheburator mk2 said: LaSource said: Don't have a pax lap with me. You'll want to wrap your 996 in red and keep it for ever Its oh so very well set up....I've been decimating my lap times at key circuits - sillystone, spa, ring (though smaller margin at ring as going faster is just too scary!) Having watched your Spa video I am certain I made the right choice with my K400. In fact I may join you at Sillystone - still got to figure out how she drives in the dry (fingers crossed the weather gods smile upon us on the day). Setterton in the wet was a right hoot, if only I was missing my flippers and schnorkel... Would love to bag a px lap if possible. No problem - you are welcome (I forgot to add, in case my previous comment sounded like boasting, I was dog slow before so the only way was up )

Shep911 said: Holy moly - one of each - like it What's the GTS like - you never seem to see any negative comments about them - pics? Thread in Porsche General. Pick Up New Car Day! Really like it. Feels much more modern than 6 GT3. Loads of grunt. Loads of toys. It's going to be a fantastic daily drive. Seem a safe place financially as well. Prices haven't moved much in the last couple of years.

jackwood said: Shep911 said: Holy moly - one of each - like it What's the GTS like - you never seem to see any negative comments about them - pics? Thread in Porsche General. Pick Up New Car Day! Really like it. Feels much more modern than 6 GT3. Loads of grunt. Loads of toys. It's going to be a fantastic daily drive. Seem a safe place financially as well. Prices haven't moved much in the last couple of years. 2 Porsche car family - congrats on the new arrival

Thanks! Very privilaged.