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Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2

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YOUR RESEARCHShould a C4 be more noisy than a C2

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Replace tires

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Replaced tires with SO2's, howled too much so dealer took off and put on Toyo. No more noise, but car is unstable.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2
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BTW - I did have the car checked for wheel bearing, but that was not the howling issue.

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Replace fronts the noise went away, now

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When I replaced the fronts the noise went away, now that the rears are down to about 25% they are getting noisy again.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2

Run conti's, good

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I am running the Conti's, good for wear, but they are noisy.

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Therefore...tires are probably the culprit.

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Replace tires

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Replaced tires with SO2's, howled too much so dealer took off and put on Toyo. No more noise, but car is unstable.

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Check wheel bearing

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BTW - I did have the car checked for wheel bearing, but that was not the howling issue.

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Replace fronts the noise went away, now

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When I replaced the fronts the noise went away, now that the rears are down to about 25% they are getting noisy again.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2

Run conti's, good

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I am running the Conti's, good for wear, but they are noisy.

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Set rear

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Setting rear to 42 makes the instability come back.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2

Use quietest tire - not the conti's

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The "fix" is to use the quietest tire - not the Conti's!

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Therefore...tires are probably the culprit.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2

different wheel size

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I think most of the difference is due to the different wheel size.

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Replace tires

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Replaced tires with SO2's, howled too much so dealer took off and put on Toyo. No more noise, but car is unstable.

Should a C4 be more noisy than a C2
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have a 99 model C4 tiptronic. I find that it makes a howling noise (almost like a failed bearing) from the front-between 40 and 75 mph. It goes above 80 (or gets drowned out by the appalling roadnoise-not sure which). My question is- does having 4 wheel drive and a diff at the front make the car inherently more noisy or is there a fault with the car. I even suspect that it could be the Bridgestone SO 2s but am finding it difficult to swap the wheels out to check.

POST 2Original post

I have an 01 C4 with a 6 speed and no howling noise, other than when my tires start to wear out and then the howling is more like a roaring and it comes from the rear. I would get it checked out. Regards, Mike

POST 3Original post

C4 tip cab here ('00). The howling noise seems to come from worn tires. The more worn, the louder the noise. I am running the Conti's, good for wear, but they are noisy. first time I replaced the rears the howling went away, as the fronts wore out the noise cam back. When I replaced the fronts the noise went away, now that the rears are down to about 25% they are getting noisy again. At the moment the harmonic is between 78 and 84 mph. As they wear more, the range gets wider. I am going to change tire brand next time so I am following the tire threads closely.

POST 4Original post

99 C4 cab.... most of my howling noise is the wind at 100mph with the top down!!!!

POST 5Original post

C4's tend to "pick up" more tire noise - there is a school of thought that says it's the AWD system - light vibrations and sounds may be amplified by the drivetrain layout. I don't know if that's true, but I've heard it from several sources. The "fix" is to use the quietest tire - not the Conti's! J

POST 6Original post

Went from a 99 C2 Coupe with 17" wheels to an 02 C4 Cab with 18" wheels. A little more road nosie, but no howling. I think most of the difference is due to the different wheel size. But I wouldn't call it "appalling" compared to the C2, so I would first try to eliminate your tires as the suspect.

POST 7Original post

Regarding quite tires, I had the Conti's on my car originally. Yes, noisy. Then, for a brief howling moment, I had S02's. Man, were they loud. I tried the S03's and they're quiet independent of tread wear. I have C4 Cab so I hear it all. I love the S03's, even though my P-car dealer wouldn't install them because they weren't N-rated. :-(

POST 8Original post

no, i had C2 and C4S. equally as quite or noisy.

POST 9Original post

01 C4 here, noisy howling too. Replaced tires with SO2's, howled too much so dealer took off and put on Toyo. No more noise, but car is unstable. We're still trying to get the pressures set to get rid of the odd feeling and handling. 36front, 40 rear makes the car feel better but rear is not glued in corners. Setting rear to 42 makes the instability come back. Odd. Time to take it into the highend tire and alignment shop this week. BTW - I did have the car checked for wheel bearing, but that was not the howling issue. The S02's were not matched and caused the issue.

POST 10Original post

I agree with Gretch and others. It's the tires. I think if it were more a mechanical thing you would get some "whine" with the top up. I don't. Just get it with the top down (in addition to the wind, of course), but with top down and windows/windscreen up I don't hear the whine either. Therefore...tires are probably the culprit.

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