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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Anyone have any experience of the dealer and any reason why this white Turbo S has been forsale for so long?

Just found a thread on 911uk. Doesn't seem to be anything untoward. Chap said he was viewing it but never replied to the thread with an update. So maybe he found something.

First thing that struck me was the Warrenty (sic). I would not be buying a £75k car from a dealer who couldn't at least spell warranty correctly.

Inverted said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Anyone have any experience of the dealer and any reason why this white Turbo S has been forsale for so long? it's been mentioned before but nobody here has posted the reason as to why.

TheHound said: First thing that struck me was the Warrenty (sic). I would not be buying a £75k car from a dealer who couldn't at least spell warranty correctly. Surely, your not serious !?

ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? yes absolutely... the dealer selling a £75k car can't spell warranty correctly (especially as this is their opening boast) shows they are a) not professional and b) have a distinct lack of attention to detail. These two things would definitely concern me.

TheHound said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? yes absolutely... the dealer selling a £75k car can't spell warranty correctly (especially as this is their opening boast) shows they are a) not professional and b) have a distinct lack of attention to detail. These two things would definitely concern me. Oh I see, the more expensive the car, the more important the spelling!! Personally, I would have the car inspected & go from there, I couldn't give a to55 if they'd called it a Porch Turdbo if the car was perfect & what I want!!

ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? He wouldn't buy one off you either.

Magic919 said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? He wouldn't buy one off you either. Awesome!

Magic919 said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? He wouldn't buy one off you either. Damn it, I'm more stupid than I thought!!!

Get it inspected, buy the car, not the dealer... :-)

ferdi p said: TheHound said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? yes absolutely... the dealer selling a £75k car can't spell warranty correctly (especially as this is their opening boast) shows they are a) not professional and b) have a distinct lack of attention to detail. These two things would definitely concern me. Oh I see, the more expensive the car, the more important the spelling!! Personally, I would have the car inspected & go from there, I couldn't give a to55 if they'd called it a Porch Turdbo if the car was perfect & what I want!! I agree. No one is perfect and the car being straight is more important than if the salesman passed GCSE English. I was more interested if someone had viewed it and been put off for some reason. Maybe the price combined with an unknown dealer has put people off.

its been up for sale months, and by the look of the the PCCB are screwed. so a 15k bill.

Why bother with an inspection, it's obviously a dog. Probably needs a 10 k refresh as well, now where's my spiel chucker?

Fickle1 said: Why bother with an inspection, it's obviously a dog. Probably needs a 10 k refresh as well, now where's my spiel chucker? idiot.

TheHound said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? yes absolutely... the dealer selling a £75k car can't spell warranty correctly (especially as this is their opening boast) shows they are a) not professional and b) have a distinct lack of attention to detail. These two things would definitely concern me. ..at least they spelt Carrara (white) correctly. Not many do.

mrdemon said: its been up for sale months, and by the look of the the PCCB are screwed. so a 15k bill. (genuine question) how can you tell?

Adam B said: mrdemon said: its been up for sale months, and by the look of the the PCCB are screwed. so a 15k bill. (genuine question) how can you tell? I was wondering the same, all from a (poor) photo.

here is a new disk on a 991 turbo

Adam B said: (genuine question) how can you tell? they need to be shiny, they start to look more rough the more worn they are, those look well worn with no shine on them what so ever. you should be able to rub your finger on them and it be clean when you look at your finger, Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 11th November 18:38

Inverted said: I was wondering the same, all from a (poor) photo. looks a good photo to me, and the disks look nackered but the car is very cheap , has to be why ! Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 11th November 18:40

monthefish said: As if to demonsrate my point... OP - I take it you will now refuse to deal with OPC's also.... I would definitely hand over £75k to an OPC for the right car as they have a decent repuation built up over many years and obviously they specifically deal with Porsche cars. There is no way I would hand over £75k to a back street garage (this particular dealer is literally located on a back street) with no reputation at all for selling a £140k + Porsche (when new). I must add I have no experience whatsoever of this particular garage, I have never been there, have never spoken with or met with any staff but the fact remains that if I was laying out £75k I would only go to a dealer with a repuation such as RSJ, Harbour JZM, OPC etc and certainly not one that boldly states Porsche Warrenty in the opening line of the description. I can't be the only one who thinks like this otherwise the car would have sold already at that price (even if it is a dog- not everyone will have an inspection done).

mrdemon said: Adam B said: (genuine question) how can you tell? they need to be shiny, they start to look more rough the more worn they are, those look well worn with no shine on them what so ever. you should be able to rub your finger on them and it be clean when you look at your finger, Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 11th November 18:38 Useful thanks

I have seen the car. Pm for details.

Scockers said: I have seen the car. Pm for details. send me what you think about it ?, I was interested in this car before the GT4 was announced and until I spotted the disks

mrdemon said: Scockers said: I have seen the car. Pm for details. send me what you think about it ?, I was interested in this car before the GT4 was announced and until I spotted the disks you can't drive a car like mine mate, you ain't man enough

Carl_Docklands said: you can't drive a car like mine mate, you ain't man enough what a PDK car lol....

TheHound said: monthefish said: As if to demonsrate my point... OP - I take it you will now refuse to deal with OPC's also.... I would definitely hand over £75k to an OPC for the right car as they have a decent repuation built up over many years and obviously they specifically deal with Porsche cars. There is no way I would hand over £75k to a back street garage (this particular dealer is literally located on a back street) with no reputation at all for selling a £140k + Porsche (when new) . I must add I have no experience whatsoever of this particular garage, I have never been there, have never spoken with or met with any staff but the fact remains that if I was laying out £75k I would only go to a dealer with a repuation such as RSJ, Harbour JZM, OPC etc That's fair enough, but that wasn't what you said above though. You said you wouldn't deal with them on account of their spelling. Period. It was only when I pointed out Porsche themselves aren't immune to the odd spelling error, it then became about reputation and a non-backstreet premises location.

Does it not need to be a private sale to get the warranty warrenty etc

"Raspy engine" "Magnificent monster" wits advert for sure.......

Yes the advert wording is poor. Is the car worth £75k with knackered PCCB's and no warrenty ? Car probably worth £83k-85k via OPC with good discs and warrenty. They probably want to shift the car now so a deal could be done.

monthefish said: TheHound said: ferdi p said: Surely, your not serious !? yes absolutely... the dealer selling a £75k car can't spell warranty correctly (especially as this is their opening boast) shows they are a) not professional and b) have a distinct lack of attention to detail. These two things would definitely concern me. ..at least they spelt Carrara (white) correctly. Not many do. As if to demonsrate my point... TheHound - I take it you will now refuse to deal with OPC's also.... Edited by monthefish on Wednesday 12th November 15:02

Scockers said: I have seen the car. Pm for details. what was condition of discs like?

Adam B said: mrdemon said: Adam B said: (genuine question) how can you tell? they need to be shiny, they start to look more rough the more worn they are, those look well worn with no shine on them what so ever. you should be able to rub your finger on them and it be clean when you look at your finger, Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 11th November 18:38 Useful thanks Phew just been out and rubbed mine and my finger is clean !

Vron said: Phew just been out and rubbed mine and my finger is clean ! Ooh errrr!

Lol I thought that after I posted. More relieved I haven't got a £15K bill coming !

First off the 997 Turbo S is a truly incredible car- in every sense of the word. When/if you drive one you will be amazed by the performance, it is truly savage in sports plus mode yet the car can be as usable and (relatively) docile as you want it to be in regular driving mode. It's the ultimate daily supercar. Word of warning- the launch control is not for the faint hearted. 0-60 mph 2.9 seconds on dry road!! The car in question- not particularly cheap at all. It's been for sale since April, so the miles will be closer to 30k than 26. Warranty was added to the listing early summer I believe? so not much left to run considering the car would not get much use during the winter. As has been stated- it's only transferable on a private sale, so unless it's SOR possibly not transferable. It does not have the two tone leather interior some S cars have- which is far nicer, I have looked at both and two tone is great. Don't just look at purchase price when considering the value of a car. At this level of car, saving a few k purely on the purchase price rarely works out well in the medium term. If you can get a car with 3 x less miles and long warranty/Porsche assistance for close to this price, then it's clear which car will have the better residuals. Regarding spec. THE options to have on Turbo S are aero kit, RS alloys, and clear tail lights. The first two are vital and personally I would not consider a car without them. They help massively in setting it apart from the standard gen 2 turbo- which is a good thing as otherwise it can be a bit too bland considering the power it offers. Other than that carbon pack and extended leather are nice to have, as are the bucket seats. Not the best to get in and out of, but brilliant once you are actually on the road.

Chad_Hugo said: First off the 997 Turbo S is a truly incredible car- in every sense of the word. When/if you drive one you will be amazed by the performance, it is truly savage in sports plus mode yet the car can be as usable and (relatively) docile as you want it to be in regular driving mode. It's the ultimate daily supercar. Word of warning- the launch control is not for the faint hearted. 0-60 mph 2.9 seconds on dry road!! The car in question- not particularly cheap at all. It's been for sale since April, so the miles will be closer to 30k than 26. Warranty was added to the listing early summer I believe? so not much left to run considering the car would not get much use during the winter. As has been stated- it's only transferable on a private sale, so unless it's SOR possibly not transferable. It does not have the two tone leather interior some S cars have- which is far nicer, I have looked at both and two tone is great. Don't just look at purchase price when considering the value of a car. At this level of car, saving a few k purely on the purchase price rarely works out well in the medium term. If you can get a car with 3 x less miles and long warranty/Porsche assistance for close to this price, then it's clear which car will have the better residuals. Regarding spec. THE options to have on Turbo S are aero kit, RS alloys, and clear tail lights. The first two are vital and personally I would not consider a car without them. They help massively in setting it apart from the standard gen 2 turbo- which is a good thing as otherwise it can be a bit too bland considering the power it offers. Other than that carbon pack and extended leather are nice to have, as are the bucket seats. Not the best to get in and out of, but brilliant once you are actually on the road. I’m afraid that I have to offer a contrarian opinion on specification as: Aero Kit I think the car looks better without this (and /or colour coded lower sills) as the car, to me, looks a little tall and frumpy with the lowest portions of the body painted. Painted lower sills, in particular, lead (again, to my mind) to too many horizontal lines below the doors, which one doesn’t notice in the same way will the lower sills in black. White rear lights I’m afraid to say, I think these are starting to look a little dated now. There’s also quite a lot happening within them with the bottom portion being the reflector 2 tone interior Yes, it’s brighter than the standard leather…but I’m not sure that means it’s better. In a perfect world, I would look for extended leather, contrast stitching and a carbon pack. I agree with the RS alloys as, despite the joys one has when removing wheels, I do think these look better. That said, this is just my opinion on specification. Porsche have moved things on quite a lot over the last couple of decades so one can make the cars very different from the options, before even looking at the individual options available.

Chad_Hugo said: Regarding spec. THE options to have on Turbo S are aero kit, RS alloys, and clear tail lights. The first two are vital and personally I would not consider a car without them. hmmm, proof that this is subjective I was looking at Turbo S before cutting my budget to opt for something (hopefully) more depreciation proof I like the aerokit but certainly not a must have I am 50/50 on the RS spyder centre locks - think they look fussy so would quite happy with std turbo wheels Agree with you - the two tone leather interior is much nicer and was a must have for me Other must haves (which most have anyway) was BT and universal audio Nice to have for me are heated seats and extra leather bits, especially rear centre console, and rear park assist is useful

Chad_Hugo said: THE options to have on Turbo S are aero kit, RS alloys, and clear tail lights. The first two are vital and personally I would not consider a car without them. Whilst I agree on the alloys, the other two assertions are almost laughable, hugely subjective. Just make sure the aero kit blends with your gold chains/teeth. And as for the rear lights, kudos, very Halfords, if that's the look you're going for...

FeelingLucky said: Chad_Hugo said: THE options to have on Turbo S are aero kit, RS alloys, and clear tail lights. The first two are vital and personally I would not consider a car without them. Whilst I agree on the alloys, the other two assertions are almost laughable, hugely subjective. Just make sure the aero kit blends with your gold chains/teeth. And as for the rear lights, kudos, very Halfords, if that's the look you're going for... Well, i am with Chad on the aerokit and the wheels. I would have this car's wheels sprayed a different colour though. I think one PH member has his sprayed orange and they don't look too bad at all. The Gen2 997 is the first 911 in quite a while which looks great in white. I get many, many compliments on my car from all ages, sexes. Yep they are ostentatious and not for the shrinking violet but if you want a fairly practical car with the looks of a race car, this is it.

I have only just noticed this link This was my car, bought new and specced by me from Hatfield OPC. I had it from 2010-2012 and sold it via RPM in Tring when I then bought a 458 I had the rear ceramic discs replaced under warranty as there was an issue and therefore at c10k miles they were brand new, the front then were absolutely fine. I can't vouch for who or what used them after. Porsche at Hatfield will have full details and can vouch for the work done. The dealer painted the wheels full black from brand new and added the decals to the doors when I took delivery. I looked after it very very carefully and for two years it had only one mark on it which was the underside of the front spoiler so you couldn't see this unless under the car. Spec is always personal taste and I loved it, just get the car checked over by a main dealer and all should be well, worth spending the money on that to check over rev etc etc on the ECU. PM me if anyone wants more D

DG27 said: The dealer painted the wheels full black from brand new and added the decals to the doors when I took delivery. Good to have your input. Interesting that their mods are OK in terms of warranty etc.

yellow dials would put a lot off, me included. I really like the rest of the spec apart from black centre locks which I think a) are a naff design, and b) hate black wheels on white cars - but accept that is just a personal thing Edited by Adam B on Monday 17th November 16:34