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So although you describe it as a "slush box" (I am assuming you don't like non-manual cars!) it seems to me a better bet in that a) you don't have to replace a clutch every x number of miles and b) with a lock up you get full engine power transmitted through to the wheels at higher revs i.e.
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Am I right in assuming that the Tiptronic car is basically an automatic with the ability to change gear i.e.
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It's a standard auto "slush box" (ie torque converter) with the manual option via buttons or gear selector lever to change gears.
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Just using the "well known" (?) slang name, not my label.
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So although you describe it as a "slush box" (I am assuming you don't like non-manual cars!) it seems to me a better bet in that a) you don't have to replace a clutch every x number of miles and b) with a lock up you get full engine power transmitted through to the wheels at higher revs i.e.
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Am I right in assuming that the Tiptronic car is basically an automatic with the ability to change gear i.e. fundamentally its an automatic. Does this mean it has a torque converted in the standard sense?
What wears out on these transmissions i.e. is there an equivilent of a clutch to wear out and what mileage would you expect to see from one of these?
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Tiptronic, Steptronic, Q-Tronic, Touchtronic, iShift, E-Shift blah blah blah.
It's a standard auto "slush box" (ie torque converter) with the manual option via buttons or gear selector lever to change gears.
They do have a lock up (like many autos) in higher gears to improve efficiency (viscous plates are mechanically linked once VC equalises rotation speeds)
Just visit: Audi, VW, Rover(!), BMW, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Alfa, Honda, Lexus ... erm almost everyone? and they all offer some form of manual overide with lever and/or buttons/paddles.
Before the above trademarked names for manual overide autoboxes, you could just pull the auto gear selector back into 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st etc to effectively hold that gear (technically it forced the highest selectable gear, the box could still change down for load/stall purposes etc).
The added bonus to these old systems was that you could overrev them - Yay!
Seriously though, because of the more mechanical selection nature, they would not/could not overule the driver at red line to shift up.
Mrs H has just got an iShift Honda and it is a single-clutch manual gearbox. It is the most odd sensation for an auto driver, because it feels like a (good) manual change. More fun to play with the flappy paddles though....
To the OP - yes Tips have a torque converter. They seem to be very reliable in both the pre-facelift (ZF) and facelift (MB) versions. Although Porsche specify an ATF change at 96000, it is a common opinion that it should be done at half that.
Damn you Richard!
I write several paragraphs and you always find the error (usually in the first sentance).
I meant the Honda SportShift, which is their full (torque converter) auto with manual gear selection option a la Tiptronic.
Not sure why every manufacturer has to have a trade name for their auto with some buttons :?:
So although you describe it as a "slush box" (I am assuming you don't like non-manual cars!) it seems to me a better bet in that a) you don't have to replace a clutch every x number of miles and b) with a lock up you get full engine power transmitted through to the wheels at higher revs i.e. not still being transferred through the torque converted fluid system.
I know from owning a BMW M5 manual that some of my enjoyment of the car is marred worrying about clutch wear when doing fast starts - seems with the Tiptronic or auto or whatever you want to call it I can relax a rag the bollocks off it with standing starts whenever I like and be none the worse for it!!!!
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They lock up in 2nd and above, or at least they do on the 993. To get a fast start you have to hold the car aginst the transmission with some revs on.
Mine has 185k on it and it changes very well. It is capable of some horrific downchanges in manual mode if you do not match the revs, but there again so is a manual.
Once you are on the move they are just as fast bar not having enough gears (even more true of the 993)
Berni
Maybe to get an ultra fast start you will have to hold it against the brake but in my 997 I just floor it and that is plenty fast enough for me.... at the moment :grin:
