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i paid mine $1900 installed but not alligned yet...
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The clip shows a Cayman S with Bilstein PSS-9 on the left, compared to the same car without, running around Laguna.
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If it were a PASM car running on 18" tires, with PASM on, I can imagine that it could be that bouncy.
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Here's an interesting video I stumbled on. I don't know if this one has been discussed here before. The clip shows a Cayman S with Bilstein PSS-9 on the left, compared to the same car without, running around Laguna. The difference is pretty amazing.
Interesting, but I wonder if the camera mounting and setup is exactly the same or not? Its hard to tell if its really the camera thats worse or the car thats better. :cheers:
I fully agree with the Video.
I felt more bumpy with stock suspension than the Bilstine suspension by driving on the same condition road.
The Stock suspension sucks!!!!
:banana:
What is stock? Does the car without the PSS9s have 19", 18" or 17" tires. Is it a C or CS? Does it have PASM? It does not have SC.
If it were a PASM car running on 18" tires, with PASM on, I can imagine that it could be that bouncy. We shouldn't be fooled by ride comfort though. It is bouncy because the wheels are firmly planted to the ground.
I'm not saying that the Bilsteins aren't better. In fact, that is one mod I am considering. But I am not sure that the video is a fair fight.
That was me. A CS. The stock was running 18" w/o PASM. My camera setup was the same in both, however any bounce was prob accentuated by my camera mount (it's a 3 suction cup board but only 2 cups attached so a bit of leverage if you get my meaning).
Here's another but with my added mods vs full stock. About 5 seconds diff but i pooched the last turn in the modded one.(LSD, sways (i don't find these very helpful for me since i'm a beginner and hardly need the added stiffness), RA1s and Milltek header/exhaust).
A solid driver could prob get this package to the 1:42 range i would think.
Huh?
While the PSS9 may be better (depends on application), I do not think it is reasonable to say that the stock suspension sucks. If fact, it is one of the best stock suspensions in existence, as indicated by the many handling tests and comparisons.
Thanks. I don't have PASM. The rear PSS9 was set to 2 and the front to 3 in the video i posted above. H&R: I have front sway (not adj) and rear sway set to medium. I may go to 4 on the front to minimize some very slight underswteer i had.
Dont knock the stock suspension too much... I just got back from a club event and was very impressed with the Cayman S with stock shockers. (I do have Eibach springs and a very good alignment). This was a special event at a Police training centre. Lots of different courses, mostly 2nd gear and 100kph top speeds, but tight corners, off camber, up and down hills, a few laps of the skid pan etc.
Most cars in my class (including 3.6 996) had fully adjustable PSS9 suspension etc. I think I came 3rd out of the 12 cars in my class, and this was my first event of this type. Quite a few people commented how effortlessly the Cayman handled lapping the skid pan with a slight drift, while they scratched their heads and kept fiddling with their suspension srt-ups. I was faster than a mates 996 turbo, a coule of Gt3's etc. the Cayman is a great car for this type of event due to its balance and corner speed.
Even still, that video tells a great story, so perhaps its not so much the stock suspension that helped me today, just the fact that the Cayman is a great alround package. I'm thinking about PSS9's at some point, along with GT3 seat, harness bar etc. So far this year I have 1 2nd place and 2 3rds - Given that its my first year I think I can be pretty competitive as my driving improves.
