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However, I suspect the current sample size is not big enough to be conclusive one way or the other.

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Will be interesting to see how many have changed the bearing due to paranoia rather than need?

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Will be interesting to see how many have changed the bearing due to paranoia rather than need?

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You could look at it the other way and it might be interesting to see if any bearings that have been changed consequently failed?

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Will be interesting to see how many have changed the bearing due to paranoia rather than need?

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You could look at it the other way and it might be interesting to see if any bearings that have been changed consequently failed?

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just been looking at the data collected so far and thrown a couple of graphs together for folk to look at. Here's a couple of bar charts showing which engines and models have sustained a failure: Total number of failures - 9.8% of which 3.4 - 0% and 3.6 - 13.3% of which all X51 - 0%, C2 - 16.6% and C4S - 14.81% Looking at the 6 failures reported I've done a graph displaying their mileage over time and 3 points - registered date, Failure date and data inputted date. Notice how 5 of the 6 failures were all registered within a 12 month period and out of those, 3 of them failed within a few weeks of each other 9 years later. Last reported failure was July 2014 and then June 2013 before that. I'll do any updates in this post rather than the sticky so it doesn't get too messy in that post. Once again, thank you to everybody involved. :thumbs:

POST 3Original post

Thanks for doing the analysis Alex. I'm still considering getting into an early car before prices begin to rise. I suspect the % failure rate may be higher than the true norm for reasons discussed in the original thread. Hopefully more data will continue to be added as this should increase the accuracy. The breakdown between models is really interesting. Seems that some of the theories (such as early 3.4's are less prone to this kind of failure) are borne out in the sample. Are you thinking of doing a level-headed bore score survey once this is completed? Might throw up some interesting patterns too? You can never have too much information and nice to see these issues discussed in a sensible way.

POST 4Original post

Is the best bet a 3.4 X51 (with LTT)? I only ask as I have an option on one :bandit:

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Bore-score is next on my list :thumb:

POST 6Original post

Well done. On Bore Score, what are the symptoms? How would you know you had it?

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Make sure you check out previous owners :wink:

POST 8Original post

Excessive oil consumption and (blue) smokey exhaust - with associated sooty tailpipe.

POST 9Original post

Great work. The only actual analysis I've seen despite the endless 'discussions'.

POST 11Original post

Very interesting results.. so most seem to be at quite low mileage? My new engine is coming upto 40k odd now. Fingers, toes, legs and arms crossed :lol:

POST 12Original post

Will be interesting to see how many have changed the bearing due to paranoia rather than need?

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll post some info over the weekend on replacements.

POST 15Original post

Difficult to prove that one, though. You could look at it the other way and it might be interesting to see if any bearings that have been changed consequently failed? If not (or the failure rate is significantly lower), it's difficult to say that changing is necessarily a bad thing, if the result is a lower failure rate and less paranoia? However, I suspect the current sample size is not big enough to be conclusive one way or the other.

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