Cayman R Owners please. Advice on finding a car! - Page 4 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Good morning all, It seems I am guilty of breaking the forum rules, in putting up a thread for a wanted Cayman R. And so my thread has been removed. So I thought I would start another one, this time from a slightly different angle. Obviously I am after one, and would be interested in hearing from any PH members who own them. But just as importantly, I'm very interested in any info and advice current R owners may have when it comes to finding the right car. I'm pretty set on getting a manual with bucket seats, as I think this best reflects the cars intentions. So all this chat about how many R's there are out there, and in what colours got me thinking....! So I've just been onto howmanyleft.co.uk to see how many cars were registered in the UK. According to the site, and looking at the new registrations data for each model, it comes up with the following info: Cayman R (Manual) 2011 - 74 2012 - 41 Total - 115 Cayman R S-A (PDK) 2011 - 83 2012 - 58 Total - 141 Assuming this is accurate. Which I believe it is, as it draws it's data directly from the DVLA. A total of 256 Cayman R models were registered in the UK in 2011/12. With the split being fairly even, but slightly favoring the PDK cars. Does this sound right to those of you in the know? 115 manual cars, with an unknown amount ordered with the standard fit bucket seats. Now all I need is for one to come up for sale in the next week or so, at the right money!biggrin Thanks in advance chaps, and happy motoring!

I think that is probably very accurate. As said, there is only one entry for the R, not like other cars/models where there are many many entries for the same car, just worded differently. I wouldn't buy one which didn't have a manual stick, buckets, PSE, or the spyder wheels. But that's just my opinion. The perfect car popped up for me and I went for it without hesitation. It's such an awesome machine. Other options aren't too expensive should you find a great car with all of the above and still desire something else.

I think there must be only about 40 or even less cars if you have the spec people seem to go for above manual, spyder wheels, buckets and Pse. I have to have leather in a porker, it's all a bit plastic without, and if manual the SS is a must have but an easy retro fit circa £300. but add leather and you might be down to 20 cars made with all the above as well ! I don't even think I have seen a car for sale for a while with the "desired spec", OPC only seem to get PDK trade in's. So it's a long waiting game or you decide what you can do with out, My car will prob be for sale but not for 6 months still. I am sure a few will pop up when some owners get their GT4's. Edited by PorscheGT4 on Friday 29th May 10:11

Peridot, manual, spiders, buckets

worldwidewebs said: Peridot, manual, spiders, buckets Mine - White, Manual, Black spiders, Buckets, Climate, PSE, Xenons, Chrono.

PorscheGT4 said: "desired spec" This is just a figment of your imagination, unless you can prove that these sell quicker, for more money. The fact is you can't and it's hilarious (but a credit to your persistence) that you've managed to persuade a load of sheep that it's the case!

homerdog said: This is just a figment of your imagination, unless you can prove that these sell quicker, for more money. The fact is you can't and it's hilarious (but a credit to your persistence) that you've managed to persuade a load of sheep that it's the case! Still got the Spyder ?

I avoided buying a car without sports chrono, navigation, bucket seats. You could wait a while to tick every box. Also i went PDK for my own reason, but have to say its bloody good to use and there are normal, sport and sport plus settings, plus paddles, so plenty of options to make it a great drive.

I avoided buying a car without sports chrono, navigation, bucket seats. You could wait a while to tick every box. Also i went PDK for my own reason, but have to say its bloody good to use and there are normal, sport and sport plus settings, plus paddles, so plenty of options to make it a great drive.

Looks like 911Virgin have a car with the right spec. Manual, buckets, spyder alloys, PSE. Low mileage too! In your shoes, I'd take that one!

PorscheGT4 said: Still got the Spyder ? It doesn't matter how many times you ask this question, the answer is still yes!

I think buckets and spyder wheels is definitely desired spec, it's nearly 10k to retrofit the parts of not and it kind makes the R more unique, turbo wheels and normal seats is just dull IMO.

Beanoir said: I think buckets and spyder wheels is definitely desired spec, it's nearly 10k to retrofit the parts of not and it kind makes the R more unique, turbo wheels and normal seats is just dull IMO. But it's just your opinion, the same as it is with MrD! Sales of secondhand Rs and Spyders doesn't bear your theory out, unless you can prove differently. As far as I can tell, they all sell for a similar price, regardless of spec.

homerdog said: Beanoir said: I think buckets and spyder wheels is definitely desired spec, it's nearly 10k to retrofit the parts of not and it kind makes the R more unique, turbo wheels and normal seats is just dull IMO. But it's just your opinion, the same as it is with MrD! Sales of secondhand Rs and Spyders doesn't bear your theory out, unless you can prove differently. As far as I can tell, they all sell for a similar price, regardless of spec. Completely agree. I took somebody out in the R last weekend and he didn't want a manual, he wanted PDK, I think he would have liked buckets, but PSE and wheels wouldn't have been a priority. So it's no wonder that prices for these cars are fairly consistent.

I didn't know you couldn't post a wanted thread either and had been intending too for a while, so glad you got in trouble first Guess it's to stop 'flipping' dealers from snapping up cars to sell on. I agree with some on here that buckets and spider wheels are a must have or you might as well get a normal 'S' imo. Had also considered manual as imperative but now feel I need to consider Pdk too. Still after a red one if someone's selling! Money waiting to be spent . Though also finding myself looking at Aston vantage v8's too now.

MJ911 said: I didn't know you couldn't post a wanted thread either and had been intending too for a while, so glad you got in trouble first Guess it's to stop 'flipping' dealers from snapping up cars to sell on. I agree with some on here that buckets and spider wheels are a must have or you might as well get a normal 'S' imo. Had also considered manual as imperative but now feel I need to consider Pdk too. Still after a red one if someone's selling! Money waiting to be spent . Though also finding myself looking at Aston vantage v8's too now. Depends on what you want of course. I had a go in a V8 vantage a few years ago. I had an E92 M3 at the time. Other than the looks, the M3 was the better car and needless to say from a driving perspective the CR is night and day better than either.

homerdog said: Beanoir said: I think buckets and spyder wheels is definitely desired spec, it's nearly 10k to retrofit the parts of not and it kind makes the R more unique, turbo wheels and normal seats is just dull IMO. But it's just your opinion, the same as it is with MrD! Sales of secondhand Rs and Spyders doesn't bear your theory out, unless you can prove differently. As far as I can tell, they all sell for a similar price, regardless of spec. I never said I had a theory..!? I said "in my opinion" Just adding to the debate sir, chill the f k out, jeeze...

You only have to ask him why he still has his Spyder, which I might add is NOT the so called desired spec and did not sell when he put it up for sale at the manual , bucket seat, Spyder wheel rate ! Cars with the big 4 sell fast, that's plain to see, but there is a buyer for every car at the right price. THere is even wanted adds for R and Spyders with the big 4. I am not saying my cars are the desired spec, they are what I wanted but then I don't want to sell mine. Selling a car with no radio is a very ltd market. Again OPC only ever get PDK cars hanging about, manuals sell very fast. The 2 R's and 1 Spyder for sale ATM are all automatics.

It's certainly true that PDKs hang about, there where quite a few at dealers when I was looking that had been for sale for while, whilst I wanted a manual and had to move quick whenever they came up for sale.

PorscheGT4 said: You only have to ask him why he still has his Spyder, which I might add is NOT the so called desired spec and did not sell when he put it up for sale at the manual , bucket seat, Spyder wheel rate ! What on earth are you talking about, you deluded fool? I have never had my Spyder up for sale. I've come across some idiots on the internet, but you take the biscuit!

What's the spec and colour of your car ? My mistake if you have never offered it on pcgb or any where. Some people are so secret about what they own, it's hard to keep track who's car is for sale. No need to call me an idiot though is there ? I doubt you will post a pic and spec of your car though.

There's no secret about my car! Here's a picture of it: Just had new Michelin Pilot Super Sports fitted ready for summer! It's got PDK and sports seats, which aren't to everybody's taste - but I chose them, as I had plenty of choice when I bought mine (before they were popular!). The buckets were nice, but too high for me, as I'm quite tall and the 987 is snug enough as it is. PDK took me a long time to bond with (a few months), but now I love it. My daily is 'manuel', so I don't feel like I'm missing out! Idiot - someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. You've got a lot to say, a lot of it is good, but you spoil it by saying things that wind people up. If you take this in the way it's intended, then you might not get so many 'bites' from people - but perhaps that's how you like it? ;-)

J-P said: Looks like 911Virgin have a car with the right spec. Manual, buckets, spyder alloys, PSE. Low mileage too! In your shoes, I'd take that one! +1 If I was OP I'd be making friends with the crew at 911V pronto, that car looks pukka.

PorscheGT4 said: What's the spec and colour of your car ? My mistake if you have never offered it on pcgb or any where. Some people are so secret about what they own, it's hard to keep track who's car is for sale. No need to call me an idiot though is there ? I doubt you will post a pic and spec of your car though. An honest apology would go a long way. I also find your posts interesting, and then you go and spoil yourself ... In kindness ...

Beanoir said: It's certainly true that PDKs hang about, there where quite a few at dealers when I was looking that had been for sale for while, whilst I wanted a manual and had to move quick whenever they came up for sale. So were you waiting for somebody to wave the flag for PDK ?? On the numbers platform the manuals New are outnumbered, and I drove both at Silverstone before I made my decision. And I'm a racer at heart ... and in my dreams PDK gives me more time to think about how the car is moving ... mind space becomes more important with time !!

homerdog said: There's no secret about my car! Here's a picture of it: Just had new Michelin Pilot Super Sports fitted ready for summer! It's got PDK and sports seats, which aren't to everybody's taste - but I chose them, as I had plenty of choice when I bought mine (before they were popular!). The buckets were nice, but too high for me, as I'm quite tall and the 987 is snug enough as it is. PDK took me a long time to bond with (a few months), but now I love it. My daily is 'manuel', so I don't feel like I'm missing out! Looks cool. good or bad I just am passionate driver/car freak, had my Spyder 3 years + now. bought at bottom of market so all good. got a few more track days coming up, one with EVO and one at Donny, just like driving it. PSS are great, I have moved to cup 2's now, but still have PSS on my R, amazing tyres.

PorscheGT4 said: had my Spyder 3 years + now. bought at bottom of market so all good. PSS are great, I have moved to cup 2's now, but still have PSS on my R, amazing tyres. Mine is coming up to 3 years, no plans to sell it. I don't do track days, but do take it to France regularly, where the roads are perfect. Thought about Cup 2s, but sometimes it rains a lot in France, even in summer!

PorscheGT4 said: good or bad I just am passionate driver/car freak This is undoubtedly true, so are many of us - I'd definitely include myself as a passionate driver / car freak. I appreciate a lot of your posts but you're often way too aggressive in your overall tone but as Homerdog said - maybe that's what you like? :thumb up:

ChrisW. said: Beanoir said: It's certainly true that PDKs hang about, there where quite a few at dealers when I was looking that had been for sale for while, whilst I wanted a manual and had to move quick whenever they came up for sale. So were you waiting for somebody to wave the flag for PDK ?? On the numbers platform the manuals New are outnumbered, and I drove both at Silverstone before I made my decision. And I'm a racer at heart ... and in my dreams PDK gives me more time to think about how the car is moving ... mind space becomes more important with time !! Nope I drove a PDK Cayman GTS at Silverstone and Boxster and whilst I think the PDK is very good at what it does, for a high days car I didn't want it as I missed working the manual. The number sold new has little bearing on popularity because a huge proportion of Cayman R were specced by the dealer and they loved to push the PDK - that's a well know fact. I've got no issues with PDK at all, and have no issues with anybody preferring it, and think it's an incredible invention, but I'm old school and the manual gearbox on the Cayman is one of the best I've experienced in terms of feel and mechanical interaction so for me it's part of the cars appeal. I'm just providing my observations from having sat and watched the Cayman R market for months and months before actually buying one and that's what I noticed, PDK hung about longer.

Matty if you're still looking for a car, PM me. I know of a Meteor Grey one coming up for sale soon (sounds lovely).

the black 911 V one was nice and sold fast.

I'm on the lookout for an R too. PDK ideally optioned up of course!

What are people's thoughts on 987 Cayman R vs 981 Cayman GTS? I know these two are still somewhat far apart value-wise today, but it surely won't be long before this choice becomes more of a financial reality?

For what its worth, I never thought I would go PDK, test drove one and with so many options with PDK I was very happy to buy it. Each to their own and most PDK with a decent spec will sell, when its time to sell.

Fl0pp3r said: What are people's thoughts on 987 Cayman R vs 981 Cayman GTS? I know these two are still somewhat far apart value-wise today, but it surely won't be long before this choice becomes more of a financial reality? Own an R and have had a proper go in a Cayman GTS. I really liked the GTS, it's a lovely car and it's a marked step-up on both the base Cayman and the Cayman S. However, it would need quite a lot of additional spec to turn it into an R and I don't think it's as good as the R even after you've added the spec you'd want. The R is really a very, very good car and , HPAS, traditional handbrake, an honest engine noise and a passive sports suspension makes it all the better. It's surprising how capable it is.

Interesting stuff chaps - sounds like the consensus is the R is the purer (analogue) steer vs the GTS then. Maybe you'd have to step up to a GT4 to make the 981 vs 987 Cayman comparison properly even? I'm sure we'll see a head-to-head in the Porsche press soon enough! Personally I much prefer the 981's more 'grown up' styling, so I'd probably be prepared to trade that off against the ultimate dynamic purity of the R - but I have to say it remains a tricky choice!

It was the synthetic engine/exhaust noise that didn't help on the GTS IMO - a bit like being in Grand Turismo

Fl0pp3r said: Interesting stuff chaps - sounds like the consensus is the R is the purer (analogue) steer vs the GTS then. Maybe you'd have to step up to a GT4 to make the 981 vs 987 Cayman comparison properly even? I'm sure we'll see a head-to-head in the Porsche press soon enough! Personally I much prefer the 981's more 'grown up' styling, so I'd probably be prepared to trade that off against the ultimate dynamic purity of the R - but I have to say it remains a tricky choice! Yes the 981 does look very nice. But the 987 feels quite diminutive and it's ultimately better to drive.

Did the OP find an R?

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Manual, Sport chrono plus, carbon fibre seats, PSE, BOSE, Carrera white, black painted spyder wheels...

Mines Manuel buckets PSE Chrono Spyder wheels. Had loads of Porsches including GT3s the CR is an awesome road car one of the best I have driven. The holy grail spec above is now hard to get hold of as the people who own them are hanging on to them. Good examples are rising in price so if you can buy now to save a few pennies. PS would not sell mine taken me years and lots of money finding my perfect Porsche.

Like sitting in mine.. Mine- Carrera White, black spiders, manual, PSE, climate, Xenons, Sports Chrono, carbon buckets. Aftermarket - clear engine cover and (not fitted yet) RS29's. To do- iPod lead, fit RS29's, better tail pipes, private plate.

Dan911 said: Like sitting in mine.. Mine- Carrera White, black spiders, manual, PSE, climate, Xenons, Sports Chrono, carbon buckets. Aftermarket - clear engine cover and (not fitted yet) RS29's. To do- iPod lead, fit RS29's, better tail pipes, private plate. Just bought a private plate for mine, haven't got round to putting it on yet but thought it was appropriate - C4 YMR. Where did you get clear engine cover from? I'd like that on mine (if not rattly).

Loving the R love ESP as a few are ex GT3 guys :-)

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I have 3 Cayman R, 2 manual, 1 PDK

Fizzbomb said: I have 3 Cayman R, 2 manual, 1 PDK why ?

I wanted one in white, one in black and one in PDK (did not care what colour it was)

I was also the first person to look at that horrid red one that is currently on Autotrader, the one with the painted roof and carbon effect parts.

Interesting, people think I am mad owning 1 R and 1 Spyder ! 3 R's you must be pulling my leg :-)

J-P said: Just bought a private plate for mine, haven't got round to putting it on yet but thought it was appropriate - C4 YMR. Where did you get clear engine cover from? I'd like that on mine (if not rattly). Funny I looked at that plate a few weeks ago. Great minds. Looked into all the options, and ended up with - http://www.strutking.com/products/Cayman-Clear-Eng... They will do you a deal too..

I really want the Viper green one also...

Fizzbomb said: I really want the Viper green one also... Not sure that one will come up for sale on the open market

I went a bit mad with the Cayman S Sport, accumulated so many...

I actually spoke to Paul about the Viper green one, my offer was not enough...

PorscheGT4 said: Interesting, people think I am mad owning 1 R and 1 Spyder ! 3 R's you must be pulling my leg :-) Hi, Glen, the parts guy at Porsche Centre Leicester mentioned to me that there is a guy who owns a Cayman R and Spyder, is that you?

Dan911 said: J-P said: Just bought a private plate for mine, haven't got round to putting it on yet but thought it was appropriate - C4 YMR. Where did you get clear engine cover from? I'd like that on mine (if not rattly). Funny I looked at that plate a few weeks ago. Great minds. Looked into all the options, and ended up with - http://www.strutking.com/products/Cayman-Clear-Eng... They will do you a deal too.. Ha! Great minds do think alike - that's the one I was thinking of getting. Just wasn't sure about importing from the U.S.

J-P said: Ha! Great minds do think alike - that's the one I was thinking of getting. Just wasn't sure about importing from the U.S. I had no problem, had a tracking number and only took 6 or 7 days to get here. Had to pay some import tax (about £25) before it could be delivered (just a matter of going on line) Going to have the top of the inlet manifold painted at some point too. Only thing I'm not a fan of if the carpet, looks like it could do with the edge having a tapper where you look into the glass, but it's fine.

Fizzbomb said: I have 3 Cayman R, 2 manual, 1 PDK Pics of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan911 said: Fizzbomb said: I really want the Viper green one also... Not sure that one will come up for sale on the open market I'm getting the car detailed in the next couple of weeks then it will probably be going up . GT4 still looks on track for Sept -ish and I've a Macan coming in a couple of weeks which will see me through , so probably time to make some garage space . But we'll see , last time I started to think about selling it I got cold feet .

Got to love that colour!

Amazing car, amazing colour, the best one out there!!!!!!!!

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An older brother, Cayman S Sport!!!!!!!

I think I need help, most of my pictures are above 2MB, how can I upload them, thanks.

Fizzbomb said: I think I need help, most of my pictures are above 2MB, how can I upload them, thanks. Photobucket.............IMG codes..........