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YOUR RESEARCHHatch Rattle...Cause Found...Solution=?
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Run bead of silicone
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Removed light and ran a bead of silicone on the back side of the lens to housing mount.
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I used a small amount of caulk to seal my hatch liners (for good).
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At first I thought it was the latch rattling, but the way it settled down the rattle even after removing the rags suggests to me that it may have been the hatch liner that was being better seated to the hatch by pressure from the rags.
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I remember I have been closing the hatch fairly vigerously so I decided to check the trim/lining on the hatch to make sure it was well seated.
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Of course could just replace the lamp as well for the same result.
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latch rattling
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At first I thought it was the latch rattling, but the way it settled down the rattle even after removing the rags suggests to me that it may have been the hatch liner that was being better seated to the hatch by pressure from the rags.
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I tried putting hard rubber grommets into the hollows where the rubber bumpers sit, to tighten the fit, but these did not help matters.
Well, after my hatch rattle getting to be really crazy anoying I started searching out the cause. I suspected the rubber bumpers not being effective enough but that's not it. I remember I have been closing the hatch fairly vigerously so I decided to check the trim/lining on the hatch to make sure it was well seated.
Guess what? It wasn't seated well at all. Actually large sections where there are apparently fasteners were loose to the extent when you pushed the liner into the hatch you could hear the fasteners clicking and seating once again.
The bad news. This is only a temporary fix. After driving the car for 40-50 miles (with
PASM
on soft) and NO firm hatch closures, the sound is back. And the liner is not seated properly again. My guess is that
Porsche
will have to improve the fasteners for the liner. I'm temped to take it off and silicone the whole thing into place, but that's probably not the best idea. -Pete
Was told by my dealer that Porscheis aware of this problem and was only a issue on some of the first builds. Apparently it has something to do with bolts not being properly tightened at the factory.
Unfortunately didn't get too many details.
I posted on this in another thread. I've owned half a dozen 2 seat hatchbacks and every one of them had a hatch-rattle. All of them were from the liner. Nearly all manufacturer's use a 'male / female interferrence fit post and hole approach' (some use clips and posts). Almost always the culprit.
I used a small amount of caulk to seal my hatch liners (for good). I wouldn't use glue just in case you miss one post or it comes loose, you'll want to be able to pull the liner back off.
Paul
I guess it's the large interior trim piece that snaps to the inside of the hatch. Not sure of the mounting method. Live Devo said, some type of sealant or caulk that would give if you needed to take it off for service could be the way. Hopefully
Porsche
will have a real fix.
Chitown- I'm not sure about the bolts. Definitely some type of press-in fasteners are loose. Perhaps there are bolts in the system too that would keep in more snug. I have a long drive to do this week and can see myself putting this back into place at each stop. Sounds crazy though.
In the mean time, if you have a rattle, open that sucker up and firmly rap the lining with your fist and see if it doesn't snap back into place. Then go for a ride and see! -Pete
Ive had the same issue. The dealer put some fabric tape between the offending plastic parts - in my case the speaker grill and the housing.
Then another noise, from the plastic covering the suspension strut and the hatch lining. I pulled the parts so there was enough space between them. No rattle, but not ideal.
What I still get is a huge clangging rattle from the hatch when I hit bumps. It sounds like a van!
Freestyle, I get exactly the same noises as you. Did you take it back in to Stratstones? If you did, we may have alittle more amunition for them to do something if we go in together, or at least make sure they know that WE know about each others problem.
Jack
I just got back from a 700 mile trip and I have to say the rattling drove me absolutely mental. Weather here is supposed to be nice for the weekend so I may tear it apart and see what I can do to improve the situation. Looks like 22-23 MPG at 74MPH cruising with 1,000 miles on the car. -Pete
Another! update. Parcel 'hider' removed. My theory about the interior lining on the hatch started to fade so I removed this piece and voila, I believe the rattles are gone. Needs more driving to be sure. Pretty cheesy piece that is. We will see. -Pete
This is starting to sound exactly like a similar problem experienced on first model year Audi TT's. The cargo-cover was a two-piece snap-together fit that started to rattle like crazy. Owners would revert to disassembling them and glueing them together instead of relying on thefriction fit.Audi eventually replaced it with a single molded piece under warranty, thus solving the problem.
Stratmosphere, can you isolate the area of the cargo cover that is causing the noise?
My early guess would be the quick release gizmo thumb deals (being technical). They have a weird retention system and hardward and maybe not enough spring tension. After I'm SURE I've found that this eliminates it, then I will fiddle with the parcel cover.
Here's a funny one. I bought one of the first Acura Integras in 1986. At the last minute they had to add a shelf to the rear hatch for USA for a 3rd brake light. I know you know where I'm going. It rattled like CRAZY!
Oh, I had Audi TT #1349 in the world at the launch of the TT too! -Pete
Pete, you made go and me dig up my TT stuff. You beat my Audi TT by 402 cars, mine was VIN 1751.
I guess we are now enjoying our well-earned 'step up'. It is certainly nice to finally have a 1st gear and a 2nd gear that is usable up to 45mph. However, I must say that trunk in the TT was big with the seats down...it definitely was warehouse-club-capable!
Plus, this is strangely coincidental>>> my car before the TT was an 96 Acura Integra.
Edited by - Kman-Went on 03/13/2006 6:48:02 PM
The hatch on mine also rattles sometimes, but it appears to depend how I close it. It seems to require quite a hefty shove to get it to catch and stay closed - is this normal or is it a work around to try to resolve the rattle problem? So much for the user guide's suggestion to close it by letting it drop...
I removed that along with a couple of removable panels in the rear near the tail lights. None of that madea difference. One thing that did make a difference was to put some folded wash cloths between the rear hatch and the body on either side of the latch for the hatch extending about 8 inches in each direction from the latch, but inboard to the weather stripping. The rattle went away and surprisingly stayed away for a while when I took them out a week or so later. At first I thought it was the latch rattling, but the way it settled down the rattle even after removing the rags suggests to me that it may have been the hatch liner that was being better seated to the hatch by pressure from the rags.
I'm on 'blizzard hiatus' as the weather is crummy and I'm relegated to the Audi. It's kind of crazy how many folks have issues and how many fixes are being tried.
KMan-Went. Funny circle we travel in huh? Our taste is impecable. The first Integra was an extremely impressive car. Had to jettison my Dodge Omni GLH Turbo for the Acura as the Omni was fun but has so many problems it was infuriating. -Pete
Had a hatch rattle that was super annoying. Was even rattling with the bass from the stereo speakers. Found the rattle coming from the 3rd brake light assy. Removed light and ran a bead of silicone on the back side of the lens to housing mount. FIXED. Took awhile to narrow down this one. Of course could just replace the lamp as well for the same result.
I have an annoying hatch rattle. One possible cause is that rubber feet of the screw-in adjustable rubber bumpers attached to the trailing edge of the hatch have split.
Where can I order new rubber bumpers?
These do not appear on any parts lists I can find.
I tried putting hard rubber grommets into the hollows where the rubber bumpers sit, to tighten the fit, but these did not help matters.