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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Is it a cheap/value Singer or an overpriced Magnus Walker?

As above it's not fish nor fowl, but i do know that as soon as somebody criticizes it too much or moans about the dealer who happens to pay Haymarket a lot in advertising fees, the thread will be closed or comments deleted.

pete a said: As above it's not fish nor fowl, but i do know that as soon as somebody criticizes it too much or moans about the dealer who happens to pay Haymarket a lot in advertising fees, the thread will be closed or comments deleted. For sure. These can be built for less, speak to GT TWO on here Ken at 9E. That way you know what you're getting

giggle said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Is it a cheap/value Singer or an overpriced Magnus Walker? The PS cars seem to take an age to sell as they're very niche, they're not original early cars and so future values aren't guaranteed as it would be buying an original early 911. Obviously PS will continue to resell existing PS cars at top end prices. If you want a backdated car the fun is in the journey of creating your own bespoke 911. There are plenty of specialists from Autofarm, Early911, Canford Classics etc who will work with you to create a unique car.

Speak to Berty37

P.S Lots of build threads over on Facebook in the London 964 Section. Cars built for more realistic prices and with a breadth of Knowledge and experience. Some also have info on this dealer. Worth a look for some great ideas. Good luck

giggle said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Is it a cheap/value Singer or an overpriced Magnus Walker? I personally dont see the PS branding carrying any weight or desireability. I suppose someone out there might give it credence and lust after it but i've yet to meet such a person. Mytholoy IMO and a good way to do your b ks come resale.

jackal said: I personally dont see the PS branding carrying any weight or desireability. I suppose someone out there might give it credence and lust after it but i've yet to meet such a person. Mytholoy IMO and a good way to do your b ks come resale. Agreed 100% on this... Maybe more think this now as said bloke has now moved more into water cooled arena now...

berty37 said: Agreed 100% on this... Maybe more think this now as said bloke has now moved more into water cooled arena now... Be interesting to see if he tries something new with watercooled cars. Wait for the next 130k 996 recreation

Scooty100 said: berty37 said: Agreed 100% on this... Maybe more think this now as said bloke has now moved more into water cooled arena now... Be interesting to see if he tries something new with watercooled cars. Wait for the next 130k 996 recreation Everything he touches, turns to 'overpriced'. Just somewhere to steer clear of IMO!

g7jhp said: Everything he touches, turns to 'overpriced'. Just somewhere to steer clear of IMO! Yes looks to be the case which is why the first owners try and sell them back through PS as they reckon he has a better chance of ripping someone's face off than them privately. Far better proposition, although I've no opinion on the price, would be the black IROC car at JZM. Having seen this car even prior to its arrival at JZM the 'fit and finish' of said vehicle is exceptional. I'm not sure the Same was previously said for the PS car. I dare say they'd be some room on the price of the JZM car unless it's already sold of course. They do have one of the strongest followings and have overtaken older dealers like PS. Maybe it's a trust thing

Agreed on all of the above. But he pulls the wool over some unfortunate peoples eyes

OP with some negotiation this is a far better proposition http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic...

jackal said: giggle said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Is it a cheap/value Singer or an overpriced Magnus Walker? I personally dont see the PS branding carrying any weight or desireability. I suppose someone out there might give it credence and lust after it but i've yet to meet such a person. Mytholoy IMO and a good way to do your b ks come resale. Did you know that their is a section on PH classifieds for these cars.

Scooty100 said: OP with some negotiation this is a far better proposition http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic... Whoever built that had some vision!

GT Two said: Whoever built that had some vision! Agreed looking forward to his next creation hopefully a turbo of some sort 😀 Edited by Scooty100 on Saturday 22 November 21:43

GT Two said: jackal said: giggle said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Is it a cheap/value Singer or an overpriced Magnus Walker? I personally dont see the PS branding carrying any weight or desireability. I suppose someone out there might give it credence and lust after it but i've yet to meet such a person. Mytholoy IMO and a good way to do your b ks come resale. Did you know that their is a section on PH classifieds for these cars. yes i noticed that when it first appeared ... and i think i had a rant about it as it grated bigtime in respect of so many other categories being missing (3.2, SC, exige V6 etc.) yet seemingly they found the time to create a completely irrelevant and unjustified PS category whilst the much needed parts of the Classifieds remained in a complete mess money talks I guess

jackal said: yes i noticed that when it first appeared ... and i think i had a rant about it as it grated bigtime in respect of so many other categories being missing (3.2, SC, exige V6 etc.) yet seemingly they found the time to create a completely irrelevant and unjustified PS category whilst the much needed parts of the Classifieds remained in a complete mess money talks I guess jackal id not noticed this. How crazy a dedicated section and there is Two cars currently on it. Shows how much I look at that junk I guess

Anyone noticed how some of the 'threads in the sub-folders' don't seem to show up when you use the main 'Porsche' folder? On the classifieds I think PH should remove the PS Autoart 911 folder, Ruf, Singer or even some of the wacky stuff (Gembella, Strosek etc) would be OK, but PS is a joke. They also put the same cars in the pre-89 folder. Would help if they took at the Hexagon pre-89 cars out of the 964 folder, whilst they're at it. Plus stop dealers moving their old stock back to the top every day (once a week, would be fine). I'd prefer it if I could click on a button not to see the same old cars that I'm not interested in, that would help PH build a better picture of the type of car that's people want, rather than having to click on the same old ads we don't want (just to keep the advertisers believing their getting extra hits)!

g7jhp said: Anyone noticed how some of the 'threads in the sub-folders' don't seem to show up when you use the main 'Porsche' folder? On the classifieds I think PH should remove the PS Autoart 911 folder, Ruf, Singer or even some of the wacky stuff (Gembella, Strosek etc) would be OK, but PS is a joke. They also put the same cars in the pre-89 folder. Would help if they took at the Hexagon pre-89 cars out of the 964 folder, whilst they're at it. Plus stop dealers moving their old stock back to the top every day (once a week, would be fine). I'd prefer it if I could click on a button not to see the same old cars that I'm not interested in, that would help PH build a better picture of the type of car that's people want, rather than having to click on the same old ads we don't want (just to keep the advertisers believing their getting extra hits)! All agreed. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Case in point above, this car sold over 3 years ago! Clogging up the adds sections. PH needs to get a grip on these Dealers

actually like the look of ps cars but my issues are 1 - his branding of them is questionable especially the steering wheel & dials 2 - i am not an air cooled purist in fact know very little about them so they arent 'sacrilidge' to me as they are to others

PS are fairly unlikely to do anything serious with water-cooled cars. He doesn't like them half as much as air-cooled stuff. Nothing unique there. The PS Touring is a very, very early PS retro-car. I can confirm that the cars are not built or made by Paul Stephens, not even a little bit, but the place which does the work is absolutely top-notch. The price I guess... is whatever someone's willing to pay.

jayemm89 said: PS are fairly unlikely to do anything serious with water-cooled cars. He doesn't like them half as much as air-cooled stuff. Nothing unique there. The PS Touring is a very, very early PS retro-car. I can confirm that the cars are not built or made by Paul Stephens, not even a little bit, but the place which does the work is absolutely top-notch. The price I guess... is whatever someone's willing to pay. Yes Clark and Carter are the 'Coachbuilder' and their work generally is very good. Ive used them myself. The bodywork I wouldn't question if it was done by them. The mechanicals is the part I wouldn't trust. Heard stories of cars breaking down on the way home

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/car-advert/por... So whats this really worth?

Scooty100 said: http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/car-advert/por... So whats this really worth? Similar delivery miles car changed hands for £40-50K 1-2 years ago! Think this may be same car http://blog.eurocarrera.com/2012/12/mexico-blue-st...

Scooty100 said: The mechanicals is the part I wouldn't trust. Heard stories of cars breaking down on the way home That has definitely happened. PS now do a lot more in-house than they ever used to, I haven't had dealings with them in some time, so can't comment on the state of things now but I would certainly say in the past buying a car from them was absolutely no guarantee of its mechanical condition....

Scooty100 said: Yes looks to be the case which is why the first owners try and sell them back through PS as they reckon he has a better chance of ripping someone's face off than them privately. Far better proposition, although I've no opinion on the price, would be the black IROC car at JZM. Having seen this car even prior to its arrival at JZM the 'fit and finish' of said vehicle is exceptional. I'm not sure the Same was previously said for the PS car. I dare say they'd be some room on the price of the JZM car unless it's already sold of course. They do have one of the strongest followings and have overtaken older dealers like PS. Maybe it's a trust thing O/T but they have a Porsche 964 Turbo S Leichtbau for sale at £425k!! TX.

Terminator X said: O/T but they have a Porsche 964 Turbo S Leichtbau for sale at £425k!! TX. Keep up , that's been on sale for almost a week!

g7jhp said: Keep up, that's been on sale for almost a week! wink That's a museum piece for someone and it'll be a corker of a car or JZM won't entertain it which is why they have such a great reputation and they won't risk that. Google a thread titled 'What a dreadful experience' and see what can happen. You won't find JZM behaving like that