996 GT2 versus 996 Turbo - Page 3 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Evening all... Thinking about a possible change to either one of the above... Don't know too much about the finer details of th eGT2...grateful for any pointers regarding performance, running costs and any other differences between the two. Thanks in advance.

in short.. gt2 = 2 seats, rwd, no driver aids turbo = 4 seats, 4wd, driver aids Same day to day running costs

GT2 has no rear wiper or a sliding sunroof. GT2 sits 20mm lower than a Turbo. GT2 is the better looking one.

996 GT2 is rare and circa x2 the price of the equivalent 996 turbo. Unused scaffolding can be found in the back of many GT2. If you're married you should steer clear unless your better half would like to be a widow!

Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery.

Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery.

Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact.

jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Not so sure about that one. Would be good to put that to the test. To the car park dear boy and I'll fire up the turbo Only plus side of having a GT2 is that when you do arrive at your destination you feel the instant need to high five the nearest person proclaiming your a driving god for not spending the rest of the day upside down in a hedge I love GT2s by the way. Much better than those girly GT3s that need 10k suspension refreshes every other week

Turbo driving - sitting in comfort GT2 driving - an adventure

Never you mind said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Not so sure about that one. Would be good to put that to the test. To the car park dear boy and I'll fire up the turbo Only plus side of having a GT2 is that when you do arrive at your destination you feel the instant need to high five the nearest person proclaiming your a driving god for not spending the rest of the day upside down in a hedge I love GT2s by the way. Much better than those girly GT3s that need 10k suspension refreshes every other week Ha ha gotcha :-) how are you fella?

jubejube said: Evening all... Thinking about a possible change to either one of the above... Don't know too much about the finer details of th eGT2...grateful for any pointers regarding performance, running costs and any other differences between the two. Thanks in advance. It really does depend on what you want to be honest. The turbo is a great, great daily driver that is both capable and comfortable. The GT2 is so different in many ways but is still comfortable - to a point. With a good set up and a power upgrade a GT2 is an absolute rocket ship, looks fantastic and rewards the driver.

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thats one mean car !!!!

Thank you very much one and all.... Agree with the aesthetic observations between the two...as for the drive and handling characteristics i'll have to wait for the test drives... Thanks again... much food for thought. Martin.

I'm not Ed. Should have cleaned it I guess. Edited by Never you mind on Thursday 4th December 08:32

There isn't a huge choice choice of GT2's on the market. I was told a few days ago that a deposit had been placed on the SCoM car. The other two options both have historical damage. The silver car was quite extensive and there are a couple of previous threads discussing it when it was for sale at a different dealer. I've owned a 996 turbo X50 and a 996 GT2 (as well as a 997 gen1 turbo and a 996 GT3). Both the turbo's were awesome daily drivers but for me lacked the excitement factor as a weekend toy. The GT2 is without doubt the most enjoyable car I have ever driven and that includes the GT3. Mine...

black is also the fastest colour for a GT2 ;-)

jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration.

M33UFO Loving the pics.. Are the wheels standard or options?

M33UFO.. A quick question... Where were the other cars you mention...what damage and what dealerships? Ta. M.

jubejube said: M33UFO Loving the pics.. Are the wheels standard or options? They're 996 Gen 2 wheels. The Gen 1 has the standard hollow spoke turbo alloys.

monthefish said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration. So you're saying a turbo is as quick or quicker than a GT2? I think not and have had both. I'd be interested to hear your view and how / why you have come to your opinion....? Maybe I've missed something.

jubejube said: M33UFO.. A quick question... Where were the other cars you mention...what damage and what dealerships? Ta. M. As mentioned the wheels are the mk2 GT2 wheels. The mk2 also generally came with the carbon wing, wing mirrors and front intake. I'm thinking of the GT2's currently available on PH's. Edited by m33ufo on Thursday 4th December 21:43

Had both and on my 3rd Turbo. Loved my GT2 and miss it sometimes, but to be honest I wasn't a good enough driver to appreciate the car and it was scary so much so, I could never relax in it. It bit me on a number of occasions. I've now got another Turbo with full GT2 kit wheels DMS map Miltek pipe and 997 GT2 intercoolers and other bits and bobs pushing out North of 550 BHP, it is quicker than the GT2 which was standard and I can drive it in all weathers so it gets used more it looks awesome and has seats in the rear to put me kids in. To me its about enjoyment and I just enjoy the turbo more, but that's me as it just suits my requirements more basically. The GT2 (great plate) The GT2 "Look" 6T

m33ufo said: There isn't a huge choice choice of GT2's on the market. I was told a few days ago that a deposit had been placed on the SCoM car. The other two options both have historical damage. The silver car was quite extensive and there are a couple of previous threads discussing it when it was for sale at a different dealer. I've owned a 996 turbo X50 and a 996 GT2 (as well as a 997 gen1 turbo and a 996 GT3). Both the turbo's were awesome daily drivers but for me lacked the excitement factor as a weekend toy. The GT2 is without doubt the most enjoyable car I have ever driven and that includes the GT3. Mine... Looks bloody stunning that mate, credit to you.

Crimp said: Looks bloody stunning that mate, credit to you. Cheers Mr Crimp. I love the car. Are those 997 wheels on your Turbo?

m33ufo said: Crimp said: Looks bloody stunning that mate, credit to you. Cheers Mr Crimp. I love the car. Are those 997 wheels on your Turbo? Not sure mate to be honest they were on the car when I bought it, they are 19's. They certainly look the part, thinking about getting them painted/powder coated Black

jfp said: monthefish said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration. So you're saying a turbo is as quick or quicker than a GT2? I think not and have had both. I'd be interested to hear your view and how / why you have come to your opinion....? Maybe I've missed something. Way way quicker Jon!! hope you're well you bugger!

Crimp said: Not sure mate to be honest they were on the car when I bought it, they are 19's. They certainly look the part, thinking about getting them painted/powder coated Black That's what I was thinking, they look more like the 997 GT2/3 wheel. Great looking car. I think keep them silver. Edited by m33ufo on Friday 5th December 08:27

jfp said: monthefish said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration. So you're saying a turbo is as quick or quicker than a GT2? I think not and have had both. I'd be interested to hear your view and how / why you have come to your opinion....? Maybe I've missed something. Equal in skill drivers, equal in power cars then I think there wouldn't be much in it. GT2 will be a bit more nimble on its feet but the 4wd of the turbo might help with cornering exit speed. Edited by Never you mind on Friday 5th December 10:27

Never you mind said: jfp said: monthefish said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration. So you're saying a turbo is as quick or quicker than a GT2? I think not and have had both. I'd be interested to hear your view and how / why you have come to your opinion....? Maybe I've missed something. Equal in skill drivers, equal in power cars then I think there wouldn't be much in it. GT2 will be a bit more nimble on its feet but the 4wd of the turbo might help with cornering exit speed. Indeed. I never said the turbo is quicker than a GT2 (although in some conditions, it actually will be). I deliberately kept my post succinct so that it couldn't be misunderstood or misinterpreted, but somehow you've still managed. Read it again. I said your post was a total exaggeration. A GT2 does not leave standard turbo for dead. Especially in the real world.

This car looks a cracker! http://garagebourgoin.occasions.devware.name/66.ht... GT2 996 mk2 with carbon and PCM2 unit so very rare. No affiliation to seller, it might of gone!

119,000 Euro for a LHD! Bit steep don't you think. Is the Blue BHP car still for sale?

Price is about right from the limited numbers of mk2 cars that have sold in the last 12 months (one!) for the mileage and rarity it could be under priced :-) Could be a rare chance to buy as there can only be a handful of mk2 cars available worldwide as very low production numbers. JZ mk1 went for 85k and had 18k on it. LHD doesn't bother me or CGT drivers. 😃

Never you mind said: Is the Blue BHP car still for sale? BHP car was still available a week ago.

There was an Artic silver comfort for sale 30oddk miles, might be a thread on PH about it. I was offered this car at trade 12 months ago, this one is best avoided every panel bent and repaired

Never you mind said: 119,000 Euro for a LHD! Bit steep don't you think. That one looks box fresh!

Crimp said: There was an Artic silver comfort for sale 30oddk miles, might be a thread on PH about it. I was offered this car at trade 12 months ago, this one is best avoided every panel bent and repaired That's the one currently at Knowl Hill.

All of us missed the bargain of the century back in early August. A Swiss OPC sold an approved Mk1 CS, with a spare set of BBS E28s, on 50,000 miles with full Swiss Porsche Service History for wait, wait, wait, have a guess... I dilly-dallied for far too long with them over the price, banking on the fact they have had it for sale for 5mths, and then some lucky fecker snapped it under my nose on the day I reconciled with myself that I would pay them the full asking. Ended up with a 27k miles Fully Mantheyed GT3.1 CS, so there was a silver cloud, but anyway, have a guess on what it went for...

Carl_Docklands said: Never you mind said: 119,000 Euro for a LHD! Bit steep don't you think. That one looks box fresh! Potentially looks a fantastic buy.

Cheburator mk2 said: All of us missed the bargain of the century back in early August. A Swiss OPC sold an approved Mk1 CS, with a spare set of BBS E28s, on 50,000 miles with full Swiss Porsche Service History for wait, wait, wait, have a guess... I dilly-dallied for far too long with them over the price, banking on the fact they have had it for sale for 5mths, and then some lucky fecker snapped it under my nose on the day I reconciled with myself that I would pay them the full asking. Ended up with a 27k miles Fully Mantheyed GT3.1 CS, so there was a silver cloud, but anyway, have a guess on what it went for... As you are suggesting cheap then anything less than £70k for a mk1 clubbie with that mileage if it was tip top

Crimp said: jfp said: monthefish said: jfp said: Never you mind said: Buy a 996 turbo, stick a GT2 kit on and spend the rest on a 9e power upgrade. Then wave goodbye to all GT2s (probably upside down in a hedge ) while you sit in comfort and make it to you destination without crashing into the scenery. Unless of course you have some driving ability in which case a GT2 will leave a similarly powered Turbo for dead - fact. Total exaggeration. So you're saying a turbo is as quick or quicker than a GT2? I think not and have had both. I'd be interested to hear your view and how / why you have come to your opinion....? Maybe I've missed something. Way way quicker Jon!! hope you're well you bugger! All good matey you? Turbos looking nice, great motor that

jfp said: Cheburator mk2 said: All of us missed the bargain of the century back in early August. A Swiss OPC sold an approved Mk1 CS, with a spare set of BBS E28s, on 50,000 miles with full Swiss Porsche Service History for wait, wait, wait, have a guess... I dilly-dallied for far too long with them over the price, banking on the fact they have had it for sale for 5mths, and then some lucky fecker snapped it under my nose on the day I reconciled with myself that I would pay them the full asking. Ended up with a 27k miles Fully Mantheyed GT3.1 CS, so there was a silver cloud, but anyway, have a guess on what it went for... As you are suggesting cheap then anything less than £70k for a mk1 clubbie with that mileage if it was tip top It went for 42k GBP equivalent Ok, I got to add VAT, but landed in the UK the car was £52k, with one year global OPC Warranty. At the end I bought into the GT3 is the purer drive... Doh!

Price is about right from the limited numbers of mk2 cars that have sold in the last 12 months (one!) for the mileage and rarity it could be under priced :-) Could be a rare chance to buy as there can only be a handful of mk2 cars available worldwide as very low production numbers. JZ mk1 went for 85k and had 18k on it. LHD doesn't bother me or CGT drivers. 😃

Cheburator mk2 said: It went for 42k GBP equivalent Ok, I got to add VAT, but landed in the UK the car was £52k, with one year global OPC Warranty. At the end I bought into the GT3 is the purer drive... Doh! A cheap car.

Cheburator mk2 said: It went for 42k GBP equivalent Ok, I got to add VAT, but landed in the UK the car was £52k, with one year global OPC Warranty. At the end I bought into the GT3 is the purer drive... Doh! Shame you missed missed out on the GT2. I suppose the GT3 isn't a bad 2nd best option. Doubt the car would have had OPC warranty. After 10 years of age they usually come with some sort of aftermarket warranty - certainly if you buy from a UK based OPC.

m33ufo said: Shame you missed missed out on the GT2. I suppose the GT3 isn't a bad 2nd best option. Doubt the car would have had OPC warranty. After 10 years of age they usually come with some sort of aftermarket warranty - certainly if you buy from a UK based OPC. Nope, Porsche in Europe is different from here - for starters, in Germany for example there are often 993s, 928s, 944s and 968s in the Porsche Approved Scheme, which means they come with the Global 1 year Porsche Warranty. It is the same in Switzerland. I did specifically ask - say something went wrong with the car in the UK - I could rock up in my local OPC in E London, get them to do the work. OPC claims from Porsche AG in Germany, then AG claims from the Swiss dealer, so it was all good on that front. Have had similar experience with BMW in the past - BMW UK was happy to accept a dealer servicing stamp from BMW Geneva, and was also happy to fix badly executed warranty work by BMW Sofia...

Cheburator mk2 said: Nope, Porsche in Europe is different from here - for starters, in Germany for example there are often 993s, 928s, 944s and 968s in the Porsche Approved Scheme, which means they come with the Global 1 year Porsche Warranty. Well....if you look at the Porsche Germany website and search for used cars older than 10 years of age (I selected 1979 - 2004), you'll find there are no hits with a Porsche Approved Warranty. However, if you un-check the Porsche Approved box you'll find almost 40 hits. Even the 349,000 Euro RS listed isn't identified as Porsche Approved. As I say, cars over 10 years old for sale at OPC would, in my experience, come with an aftermarket warranty.