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The one I have doesn't check all your boxes anyway.
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Can you afford a new trans, engine, or similar full repair, whatever it takes?
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Hello all, new member here. Past owner of 912, 911, 911T, 911S, Carrera, 930 and 935. I had my own indy shop, closed it all in 2002. Now I want to have a Porsche again.
I am trying to buy a 2002 Porsche Carrera C4S listed on Autotrader. I have logged in on Google (as required) and sent messages about a car, a C4S that I like. I asl usual questions, about service records, IMS, RMS, suspension, PPI, and so on.
Zero replies, no activity from Autotrader or "private seller". Very disappointing, JMO. After all, a C4S doesn't grow on every tree. If you want one, then you have to look for one across US. I want one "South of Mason-Dixon Line", meaning generally warmer climates, no snow-cold winters.
Anyone have any clues about zero response from Autotrader? Is there something I am missing? The internet is full of "dead-expired" ads, so that is a possibility. I don't trust it, I did buy a Carrera at long-distance, but I had other Porsche-folks-members go look at it and give me a general idea of condition.
Any help anyone can offer is appreciated. Thanks. (Ps - Anyone near Savannah Georgia?)
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Found an 02 C4S at herb chambers ford in Braintree MA. 1 owner, garaged and always serviced. Clean CarFax. Can anyone recommend a place for a PPI ? Are the dealers willing to bring the car to an outside shop to have the PPI done?
Thanks
on Cars.com
2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
$34994 | 41602 miles
Body Style: Coupe
Engine: 3.6L H6 24V MPFI DOHC
Exterior Color: Arctic Silver Metallic
Interior Color: Black
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Drivetrain: AWD
No reply from AT. Typical internet BS.
BTW, I am looking for a 2002-2004 Carrera 4S, coupe, manual, NOT black or red or dark blues. Service history, IMS, RMS, Clutch ~50k miles, PPI prior to purchase.
Where? - prefer below Mason-Dixon Line, no snow winters. I am in SE Idaho.
Thanks for looking.
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I am in the process on buying an 03 C4S that has 30K on it one owner all service for $36,500. Talk to the dealer service manager, when they do a PPI they "work" for you and should go through it as if they were CPOing it. Just had mine done yesterday and all it needed was a new cable for the gas door. Since it was in there I'm having them put the LM engineering HD IMS Bearing and a new RMS along with an oil change and new K&N air filter.
I am worried about IMS. It has not been changed. Should I see if the Porsche dealer will do it or have an Indy shop do it when I get it home. I have a good local shop
Because you are buying it from them maybe you can work out a deal for a lower rate on the IMS. If not an Indy would probably be much cheaper if you can find a good one.
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Mine is being done at the dealer where I'm buying it from. $2400 installed along with the new RMS. No matter where you get it done you should do it for the peace of mind. Takes 2 days. Oh and along with the oil change I'm having them put in a magnetic drain plug.
Go to an Indy. No way trust a dealer. They will sell you a soap box on wheels and say its the best porsche that they have seen. Get a ppi from the well respected indy in your area.
i'd do the c4s. Personally I would not spend the extra on a 997 unless .2 without IMS and with DFI etc. Power wise a 2005 is about the same performance. Plus the widebody looks so much better.
My exact car (except I have 82k miles on mine). I went with the C4S because I wanted the wide body but didn't want tt. No regrets here. I say go for it.
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I think MUCH better drive is a bit of an over-statement... I have driven countless 997's, 2 991's and bought a 996 4S... the driving differences in a 997 and a 996 aren't that noticeable IMHO. 996 is a wonderful car, and generally $20k-$25K cheaper used.
I would go with a widebody over a skinny 997 for sure. I just love the look of that big fat booty!
Good call on taking it to an Indy for PPI... hope everything works out with the inspection and sale.
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I spent a week driving a 2010 997 C2S in Europe, and I will agree that it has more usable power. It also spools up faster, making rev matching easier than it is in my 996. I think the DFI engine really helps with throttle response. It's really fun to drive. That being said, the overall driving experience was very, very similar to my 996. It felt very familiar. So I would agree with you that it's better, but I would also say that the gap isn't huge.
If I were choosing between a 997 C2S (2009+) or a 996 C4S, I'd choose the 997. However, I don't think that's what the OP is considering...
Don't get me wrong, I love my C4S.
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Do I trust the selling Porsche dealer to do the PPI? Or arrange for an Indy shop?
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Agree, get a PPI done outside of dealer. There are too many horror stories of failures or downright lies from dealers. Just because a Porsche is an exotic expensive brand, dealers of any Make are NOT to be trusted. It is a giant conflict of interest. They just want to sell "it" and get it out the door, "As Is".
Look to PCA members for "referred indy shop and expect to pay ~$250-$300. Insist on written description of items and parts/labor costs. If dealer will not take the car to an indy, maybe sketchy service records or whatever, think about it. Can you afford a new trans, engine, or similar full repair, whatever it takes? I would "pass" and go elsewhere, or possibly offer $10k less for the car.
JMO
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