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Then the mechanism that allows the back of the seat to be adjusted will move with time, so your seat will lay back more and more.
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I installed metal spacers thick enough to create a little bit of space as these seats do like to flex but this time the fiberglass can flex on a smooth edge compared to the groves of a bolt and completely grinding the fiberglass dust.
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Porsche has a 16 inch width between seat bolts and the brackets installed on the seats are 15.5 inch in the front and 15 inch flat in the rear, there is also no way to install the factory seat belt.
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As you can see the fiberglass is quite thin and also the bolts and the bracket were installed with no washer or common sense.
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I have different seats but I have use the same brackets you have listed....
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I installed metal spacers thick enough to create a little bit of space as these seats do like to flex but this time the fiberglass can flex on a smooth edge compared to the groves of a bolt and completely grinding the fiberglass dust.
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Porsche has a 16 inch width between seat bolts and the brackets installed on the seats are 15.5 inch in the front and 15 inch flat in the rear, there is also no way to install the factory seat belt.
Recommend removing all hardware and installing better anchors
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If you decide to go with these seats I recommend removing all hardware and installing better anchors for it before sending them to the upholstery shop.
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I would change all the hardware and really reinforce the plastic to the brackets then get it upholstered and work with the shop to minimize the squeak.
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I have searched this forum for help with seats brackets installation for a 996. I have purchased these seats from PLM.com
https://privatelabelmfg.com/collections/racing-seats/products/f1spec-997-gt2-recline-seat-pair-frp-with-pu-leather
and they recommended these brackets
https://privatelabelmfg.com/collections/seat-rails/products/plm-seat-base-mount-track-bracket-for-porsche
The brackets are the right length, the problem is that they are not the right width when bolted on the seats. Porsche has a 16 inch width between seat bolts and the brackets installed on the seats are 15.5 inch in the front and 15 inch flat in the rear, there is also no way to install the factory seat belt.
I'm looking at these brackets, but there is no information on the dimensions of the holes to know if my seats can bolt directly to the bracket.
https://www.plantedtechnology.com/products/seat-brackets/porsche/planted-seat-bracket-porsche-996-boxster-997-cayman-991-1998-driver-left.html
How have you guys that have installed aftermarket seats on the 996 deal with this?
Category:
Interior
Price:
$1000
Private or Vendor Listing:
Private Listing
Part fits:
Porsche 911 996 Non-Turbo
Location (State):
NJ
Item Condition:
Used
Shipping Information:
Item can be shipped
Up for sale are GT3 seats out of my 00 996 coupe - very limited use on these and in very good condition, almost like new - no real wear noted. Please let me know if you are interested - they are being pulled out of my car this weekend due to trading in my porsche - dealer wants it with factory seats. will get more pics upon request with email address - would prefer they were picked up - but if need be can probably ship them if you are willing to pay. new to the forum - hope i didnt do anything wrong.
Seat....attaches to side mount OR bottom mounts...then to sliders OR directly to brackets.
I believe the seats you bought are side mounts? I can't tell from the picture. Those side mounts will attach to sliders(are they included?). The sliders attach to the brackets. You can skip the sliders and screw the side mounts directly to the brackets.
The side mounts should be adjustable to wider width.
I have different seats but I have use the same brackets you have listed....
The planted bracket...you can drill extra holes to bolt your slider or brackets onto
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Hello GeeTee, thanks for the info. I’m actually replacing some fixed back seats and was wondering about the PLM (Private Label Manufacturing) reclining/tilt GT3 997 seats.
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The seats in the pictures are not GT3 seats, they appear to be factory sport seats as long as they have hard backs and wider shoulder bolsters - if in fact they are sports seats, this is a great price for a pair.
A picture from the front would help.
Good luck, TK
Do NOT BUY the brackets that PLM recommends they are a waste of money. Get the planted brackets
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The quality of the seat is quite crappy the plastic is thin and the cushion and material that is on the seat is cheap. You will need to buy another bracket that can help the seat bolt into the car, cause the one they recommend is junk and it does not have a seat belt mount. Then the mechanism that allows the back of the seat to be adjusted will move with time, so your seat will lay back more and more. The whole seat it self moves and squeaks constantly cause the plastic that the seat is made out of is thin it will not break but it has some play in it. That kind of makes it comfortable to drive since my car is a little rough around the edges in the suspension side. But that is something some one should know if they are purchasing racing seats.
This is what I did. I bought 2 seats from them I think it was $800 for both. Then I had them reupholstered with leather and new more durable cushion cause the one that comes on there from them is unusable. I wish they would sell the bare seat with no cushion cause whatever they call a cushion is a joke. Then bought flor brackets with seatbelt mounts form another company for $140 for both (I think). Then had them reupholstered for $800 each at a local shop. That made the seats look like they belong in the car, extremely beautiful I get complements all the time for them it makes the car look racy and track like. Even the Porsche shop mechanics likes them, the seats fit me well and hold me in place in the corners and since the seat has a little play in it its not so hard on the body in.
Pros and Cons:
Pros:
Racing cup seats leathered for $2k for both. Cant really beat that.
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Cheap plastic and in internals. Now you really see why it costs $800 for both.
This is what I would recommend if you want to go down this route.
Call the company and tell them you want them with out the cushion or material, just the bare seats with hardware, cause you want to reupholster them. Once you get them replace the mechanism that allows the adjustability of the back of the seat. Install them in the car and find the position that is comfortable for you and fix it there. You can still bring the back of the seat to the front to have access to the back of the car if you want cause that mechanism is different then the adjustability of the seat back. I hope that makes sense. Then use different bolts and bigger washers that attach the plastic to the metal brackets. Then get them reupholstered.
This was my experience and my recommendations, if you chose to go down this route.
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nottoshabi, for the super detailed answer. I actually have an upholsterer with whom I've been working. My plan was to reupholster in custom leather so I didn't want to spend like $3500 on Recaros then put another $2000 into the seats. My concern was the seat chassis itself. Is replacing the tilting mechanism something you were able to do yourself? What/where did you buy? Does it still squeak and flex with your new mechanism? Would you do it all again like that or just get something else? Did yours have a submarine belt slot? Is the slider mechanism that comes with the seat any good?
I'm pulling out some Corbeaus FX1 Pro (fixed back) and may be able to reuse the Cipher brackets.
Thanks again, this was really helpful
The seats do have the slot so you can add the submarine belt. The slider brackets are good and the planted floor bracket is really good and worth the money.
I never ran the seats before upholstering them, so I don't know how they were before they got wrapped in leather. I started having the seat back movement issue about 3 months into it. I tied the rotating handle that positions the seat back so it wont twist any more, and that seems to fix the problem for now. The flex will always be there since the material of the seat is so cheap and the squeak might be coming from the upholster shop. He might haven gotten glue and leather in the screw wholes. That could be why its squeaking, its not bad but its noticeable.
Giving the fact there are no other alternatives for sport seats with leather, with out a minimum 4k price tag each. I would defiantly do this again. I would change all the hardware and really reinforce the plastic to the brackets then get it upholstered and work with the shop to minimize the squeak. I would take it a step further and remove the plastic and find a metal shaping shop and get the plastic replaced with aluminum, then get it wrapped in leather and reblot it back to the seat brackets. The seats fit really nice, they are tighter then the Corbeau around the mid section and legs. I'm 5'8" 180lbs. And these fit me like a glove.
Good luck with what you decide to do. Post some pics of the final decision.
Thanks again. The planted brackets have good reviews everywhere. I was planning on doing custom leather do the PU “leather” is not an issue.
but I’m trying to find where I can source the replacement for the internal mechanism as you suggested?
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You might have to get creative and drill a whole in the turning wheel and put a bolt through it, or something like that. I did not have any luck finding anything. But if you please let me know.
Those are beautiful seats, including real custom leather! Have your resolved the squeaking and stability issue to your satisfaction? Where did you get the bit to tighten them up? Are they able to tilt forward for rear access on command like the stock seats? Guys on the 911UK are pretty happy about their GT3 knockoffs (fixed back) once they have custom leather added.
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I'm so jelly where did you find the roll cage? I recommend you get the seats reupholstered what comes on there is a joke. As a matter of fact ask for them bare, with no cushion or covering. Then when you get them upholstered ask for very firm cushion. Good luck take some pics when done.
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Plm sent me an extra set of seat cushions so I doubled up and the fit is perfect I tried to get a set of the 996 gt3 replica from them but they stopped producing the seat in carbon fiber so I went the 997 gt3 copy eventually I will have them reupholstered in half black leather and dark gray alcantara center in a small pepita pattern
So the bracket broke on these seats and what I mean about the bracket breaking is the fiberglass rubbed itself against the bolts till it made a big enough whole to where the bolts we no longer holding the chair and the bracket and bolts pooped right out. This was the driver seat and the bracket was the one closest to the knees, it gets a lot of abuse when stepping in and out of the car.
As you can see the fiberglass is quite thin and also the bolts and the bracket were installed with no washer or common sense. With time this will happen to both seats at the brackets around the leg areas. If you decide to go with these seats I recommend removing all hardware and installing better anchors for it before sending them to the upholstery shop. I installed metal spacers thick enough to create a little bit of space as these seats do like to flex but this time the fiberglass can flex on a smooth edge compared to the groves of a bolt and completely grinding the fiberglass dust.
I had to grind the wholes a little bit to fit the metal spacers in it. I also have large washers on the other side on the head of the bolts. Big washers to cover as much area as possible but not to interfere with the other bolts. Then you can tighten the bolts without cracking the fiber glass and still give the fiber glass some space to flex.
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