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I used 15x6’s all round on the RallyCab - but was only trying to fit a 195/65/15.
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I recently had a lifted rx7 I used on gravel rally and it was amazing on the poorer quality B roads too.
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The Keen cars use a 215/65r16 which is about 20mm shorter.
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I looked into using gravel rally tires but I decided it was worth going with something a bit taller and going down the route of re-gearing
Use holden washer reservoirs(small rectangular)from bursons in tarmac/rally cars
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we used to use holden washer reservoirs(small rectangular)from bursons in tarmac/rally cars
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I’ve already welded up a custom bike rack/maxtraxs holder using a Yakima bar at the front, which sits about inline with top of the rear window and then two sea sucker mounts which suction on to the engine lid.
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So here is a build that I have a feeling is going to divide the room. I’m taking my original Hamilton’s delivered non sunroof SC, lifting it around five inches and installing big tires. I spend a lot of time in the country and am sick of driving boring cars because of it. After seeing YouTube videos of the safari cars that Tuthill and Leh Keen are building I was convinced that this is way forward.
I wanted to go further than just cranking up the existing torsions bars, I’ve got completely new everything going in suspension wise. With uprated torsion bars, custom struts that have been lengthened also with dropped spindles and valved to suit. All the suspension side of things is being installed at the moment. So I hope to have it back on the road fairly soon
As the current owner of (the now turbocharged) RallyCab I can vouch for the freedom and fun that comes with a raised ride height. I've got a rural property and out there a car that can go fast over bumps is infinitely more fun. I'm just not sure about those tyres. How will they go on the road which is where the car will be 99% of the time despite what you may espouse now! I'm going big sidewall Avons for the ride height lift and that phat sidewall look. I'm calling it the Turbo Tarmac RallyCab.
But each to their own and fashion and fads aside they will always be a fun car, so good on you, as that's what matters.
p.s. is this the car Cascone is doing?
I recently had a lifted rx7 I used on gravel rally and it was amazing on the poorer quality B roads too. Was fine on the regular bitumen road but obviously up in the hills not so good.
The tyres are the best compromise for what I am going to be doing with the car. That being tarmac, gravel, mud and snow. It’s also the biggest that will fit without major panel mods. I’ve had these tyres on a few different Landcruisers, they provide good grip in the wet and on asphalt. However I’m under no illusion that the handling change in the 911 on road is going to be massive, I’m certainly not expecting it feel like it’s on rails but it shouldn’t handle like a dog on lino either. The tires are still a 215 section with very stiff side walls and are made of a fairly soft compound. I just want to slide it around on dirt roads and be able to channel my inner Ari Vatanen every once in awhile. If I’m going out for a blast on road I’d be reaching for a different set of keys.
Hear is a preliminary shot of what is to come. Still a few ride height tweaks and alignment changes to be done.
Go for it. A tool for every job.
What tyre size are you using? Will be interesting to see if you have to trim the part behind the front accordian (Lee Keen does).
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I haven’t got around to it yet but I will definitely be cutting the front valance and the trim piece behind the accordion. You don’t have to turn the wheel very far now for it to hit.
The tires I chose are BF Goodrich KO2’s in 215/75r15. The Keen cars use a 215/65r16 which is about 20mm shorter. The only reason I went for the 15’s over the 16’s is because I already had a set of 7 and 8 inch Fuchs sitting around doing nothing.
I agree, I love the old school look of 15’s and like Pork Chops I’m all about maximum phatness. Especially in this application. I looked into using gravel rally tires but I decided it was worth going with something a bit taller and going down the route of re-gearing
All up it worked out to be a 5 inch lift. It is as far as you can go without fabricating custom components. What limits you is being able to get enough camber in the car. The whole suspension fit up went in really easily. The only issue has been the wheel clearance to the oil cooler and windscreen washer bottle when close to full lock. I’ve remedied the oil cooler issue. For the washer bottle I’m going to try and cut about 40mm out of it and plastic weld it back together. If that fails I’ll have to workout a frunk mounted unit.
Dont cut up your washer bottle, save it.
Easy substitute is this bag for about $20
" Windscreen Universal Washer Bottle Bag Kit With 12V Pump for Classic Cars Black"
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Windscreen-Universal-Washer-Bottle-Bag-Kit-With-12V-Pump-for-Classic-Cars-Black/273668046044?epid=2299383860&hash=item3fb7e2fcdc:g:XPsAAOSwTxJcRtQH
Yes 100% agree dont cut up the Og one just use a trunk mounted aftermarket kit like Zelrik911
posted ,,,,there are numerous kits and types available and they are cheap and easy to install
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I’m just not sure what I’d be saving it for? If it’s not in the car I’d never have a use for it and it’s not a big dollar part that is unobtainium. I’d also prefer not to fill up the frunk anymore than I have too. I like Porsche’s original packaging solution and the larger volume for offroad/daily driving. Plus I haven’t done any plastic welding for quite awhile so it could be a good opportunity to get some practice in.
There is a lot of weight to be saved by eliminating the factory washer reservoir
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Seriously, a good friend in the HRA rallied a 911 SC for a few years, based on the
Tuthill example. He broke a torsion bar (snapped like a carrot ) I had never seen that before.
we used to use holden washer reservoirs(small rectangular)from bursons in tarmac/rally cars
we snapped a balljoint in the wynns safari..good idea to replace
A 964/4 version would go well at your farm. It will need a whale tail and roof rack to carry the hay bails though. Or maybe a targa or cab to throw the odd sheep, lamb or calf in the back. Leave the front bonnet off and make it into a true "fr-ute". Possibilities are endless
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I took it for a good shakedown on the weekend to test it out in the snow and mud. I even managed to find a couple of little river crossings. But it was in the mud that it was really impressive. The level of grip and the way the car ‘hooks up’ in the deep stuff was amazing.
Just trying to get permission to post some photos and details of a Tuttle 911 restoration / rebuild being done over here in prep for SE African Rally and Round the World Cup next year. Bright orange, very impressive so far. Hopefully owner approval won't be far away....
I guess you could call this a "teaser"
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I’ve already welded up a custom bike rack/maxtraxs holder using a Yakima bar at the front, which sits about inline with top of the rear window and then two sea sucker mounts which suction on to the engine lid. I just need to send it off to get powder coated when I get a chance
Find one ASAP and join the party. Of all the P cars and stupid pricey Italian cars that are in the garage. This is buy far the most fun and enjoyable. It even still handles twisty tarmac but it’s the massive 3rd gear slides on gravel that will get you hooked. Do yourself a favour and build one. You won’t regret it.
