Why not this car: Cayman S - Page 5 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Are there any reasons not to buy this car. It has all the options. i understand it is not from an approved dealer, but it has all the extra goodies and apart from being a bit old, I could not see any reason for why not. I know there are experts here. Just thinking about it, no firm commitment yet https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201051... Thanks

LamedonM said: Are there any reasons not to buy this car. It has all the options. i understand it is not from an approved dealer, but it has all the extra goodies and apart from being a bit old, I could not see any reason for why not. I know there are experts here. Just thinking about it, no firm commitment yet https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201051... Thanks Have you seen it in the flesh? Because the photos are terrible. Not sure the real colour is anywhere near that of the photos. I think it’s a great looking motor.

Yeah. I have gone to see it. The colour is more mellow in person, which I like

Looks great, that Miami Blue photo is over exposed. Tremendously quick car for the money. With Porsche jacking their prices up yet again this week and 10% inflation on the cards, with the two year lead times on new I’d be snapping that one up in an instant…

I had a Miami Blue Cayman and now have a Miami Blue Boxster S. That looks a great car good spec and at a decent (by current levels) price. Be rude not to.

Miami is rather marmite as a colour but generally sells ok but be aware the insipid grey interior is not as good as black with Miami which will put many potential buyers off. Has the car a proper Porsche history? Any Porsche warranty? How many owners?

av185 said: Miami is rather marmite as a colour but generally sells ok but be aware the insipid grey interior is not as good as black with Miami which will put many potential buyers off. Has the car a proper Porsche history? Any Porsche warranty? How many owners? It has full Porsche service history No Porsche warranty I did not enquire about how many owners (Silly me)

When I added up all the options, the car would have cost at least £77,000 new

They have sold accident damaged cars in the past so I would get it properly checked over first make sure it is all original

The hpi check suggested previous owners were 2

jimmy p said: They have sold accident damaged cars in the past so I would get it properly checked over first make sure it is all original Are you talking of getting checked physically? As HPI check did not record the car as stolen or write off (from insurance records). Their cars are RAC/AA approved and come with 6 month of AA/RAC warranty

I would be inclined to request the car is inspected at an OPC with a view to placing an official Porsche warranty on it especially bearing in mind you say it has a full Porsche history. They would also check whether the bodywork warranty is intact which would be void if it has had any unofficial repairs outside the OPC network so unapproved. If the dealer refuses then this would sound alarm bells and I would find another car. This is a good way of testing the dealer and their confidence or lack of it in the car they are selling. The car is not particularly cheap ££ btw.

Being a turbo'd motor, and not at an OPC, I'd be wanting to know if it's had a remap. That might explain why it's out of the OPC network, and I think it might also prevent you or anyone else ever putting the Porsche extended warranty on it. Definitely worth getting a PPI if you're seriously interested in it.

£20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so?

av185 said: I would be inclined to request the car is inspected at an OPC with a view to placing an official Porsche warranty on it especially bearing in mind you say it has a full Porsche history. They would also check whether the bodywork warranty is intact which would be void if it has had any unofficial repairs outside the OPC network so unapproved. If the dealer refuses then this would sound alarm bells and I would find another car. This is a good way of testing the dealer and their confidence or lack of it in the car they are selling. The car is not particularly cheap ££ btw. Wow. That is a lot Would anybody take nearly new, less than 600 mileage, few month old, £8000.00 cheaper Toyota GR Yaris over this Porsche Cayman S?

julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? I cross checked the list below with the standard features on Porsche website and checked when I went to see the car, they were all there: iami Blue Metallic £596 option, Two Tone Leather Interior Package Black/Crayon £1680 option, Sports Chrono Package With Dynamic Transmission Mounts, £2541 option, Switchable Sports Exhaust £1328 option, Adaptive Sports Seats Plus 18 Way Electric £2460 option, PDK Gearbox £1992 option, PASM Sports Suspension (20mm Lower) £1133 option, LED Main Headlights Including Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) £1344 option, Navigation Module PCM £1052 option, Porsche Torque Vectoring (PVT) Including Mechanically Locking Rear Differential £890 option, Connect Plus £ 801 option, Seat Ventilation £632 option, ParkAssist Front and Rear £599, Two-zone Automatic Climate Control £518 option, Speed Limit Display £396 option, Auto Dimming Mirrors With Integrated Sensors £332 option, Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel £315 option, Inner Door Sill Guards In Leather £321 option, DAB Radio £284 option, Seat Heating £284 option, Sun Visors In Leather £279 option, Steering Column Casing In Leather £ 222 option, Light Design Package £203, GT Sports Steering Wheel £186 option, Headlamp Cleaning System Colour Painted £138 option, Porsche Crest Embossed On Heard Restraint £138 option Edited by LamedonM on Friday 29th April 22:29

Would anybody take a nearly new, less than 600 mileage, few month old, £8000.00 cheaper Toyota GR Yaris over this Porsche Cayman S?

LamedonM said: Would anybody take a nearly new, less than 600 mileage, few month old, £8000.00 cheaper Toyota GR Yaris over this Porsche Cayman S?

Twinfan said: Being a turbo'd motor, and not at an OPC, I'd be wanting to know if it's had a remap. That might explain why it's out of the OPC network, and I think it might also prevent you or anyone else ever putting the Porsche extended warranty on it. Definitely worth getting a PPI if you're seriously interested in it. Are Porsches that unreliable that the manufacturer’s warranty is almost a must My current BMW M6 costs me about £87/month with £250.00 excess (the best rate for the former approved used). I have been paying this for almost 2 years now without any warranty claim. I am beginning to question whether it is worth it.

julian987R said: LamedonM said: Would anybody take a nearly new, less than 600 mileage, few month old, £8000.00 cheaper Toyota GR Yaris over this Porsche Cayman S? For balance perhaps best to ask this on a GR Yaris forum. Warranty discussion will go on and on, at £660 a year i personally think the official warranty is good value and if you need to claim they do seem to pay out unlike other third party providers as documented on these forums. Caveat this with always keeping it in the opc network and using only Porsche parts, not cheap… If you’re not doing much mileage it’s probably less of an issue.

LamedonM said: Are Porsches that unreliable that the manufacturer’s warranty is almost a must My current BMW M6 costs me about £87/month with £250.00 excess (the best rate for the former approved used). I have been paying this for almost 2 years now without any warranty claim. I am beginning to question whether it is worth it. No warranty/insurance is worth having, unless you need to claim on it. Cars are generally much more reliable nowadays but they are also a lot more complicated than they used to be, the way the cost of parts and labour have gone in recent years, particularly on more upmarket cars, it would not take much to go wrong to make the warranty worth having.

julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? What do you think is missing?

anonymous said: [redacted] For me, the warranty is far from a must and I don't bother with them. However, I have a fairly new car and do limited miles per year. The vast majority of people do run with the warranty though, it seems to be a Porsche owner thing.

Looks lovely in the pictures. Love the two tone interior. Less reflections in the screen from the black top dash? I drove a car with a beige dash and it was awful.

LamedonM said: Twinfan said: Being a turbo'd motor, and not at an OPC, I'd be wanting to know if it's had a remap. That might explain why it's out of the OPC network, and I think it might also prevent you or anyone else ever putting the Porsche extended warranty on it. Definitely worth getting a PPI if you're seriously interested in it. Are Porsches that unreliable that the manufacturer’s warranty is almost a must My current BMW M6 costs me about £87/month with £250.00 excess (the best rate for the former approved used). I have been paying this for almost 2 years now without any warranty claim. I am beginning to question whether it is worth it. I ran a 981 CS for 6yrs always with extended warranty. 2 yrs warrant, £1190. Sport Chrono brings dynamic transmission mounts. A failure of one of those… this: £1500 without a warranty. I had 2 fail. 1 exhaust actuator/vacuums unit replaced. Lastly, exhaust flap on left bank jammed which meant a replacement exhaust for that side. I was expecting a big bill. No, the warranty cover that too. I was amazed to be honest. I get some are more than happy to run without a warranty but for me it was peace of mind. The main reason was if the PDK went south but never had an issue with that.

Any massive difference in exhaust sound for 718 Cayman S between pre and post OPF/GPF from 2018?

This join line seems really pronounced and noticeable. Is that the norm?

elan362 said: Yes, normal Looks terrible doesn't it.

Yes, normal Edited by elan362 on Saturday 30th April 20:59

HighwayStar said: I ran a 981 CS for 6yrs always with extended warranty. 2 yrs warrant, £1190. Sport Chrono brings dynamic transmission mounts. A failure of one of those… this: £1500 without a warranty. I had 2 fail. 1 exhaust actuator/vacuums unit replaced. Lastly, exhaust flap on left bank jammed which meant a replacement exhaust for that side. I was expecting a big bill. No, the warranty cover that too. I was amazed to be honest. I get some are more than happy to run without a warranty but for me it was peace of mind. The main reason was if the PDK went south but never had an issue with that. Yep, PADM mounts are the main issue if you have Chrono and £1500-ish is the OPC replacement price. An Indy could do it a bit cheaper, plus the exhaust flap fault could potentially have been repaired rather than replacing the whole exhaust. If you're always planning on using an OPC then the warranty makes perfect sense. If you know a good Indy, then it's a bit less clear cut IMHO.

elan362 said: Yes, normal Edited by elan362 on Saturday 30th April 20:59 the 911 and 987 don't have that join. Seems an ill-considered approach they took on the rear wings join lines after the 987.

Twinfan said: HighwayStar said: I ran a 981 CS for 6yrs always with extended warranty. 2 yrs warrant, £1190. Sport Chrono brings dynamic transmission mounts. A failure of one of those… this: £1500 without a warranty. I had 2 fail. 1 exhaust actuator/vacuums unit replaced. Lastly, exhaust flap on left bank jammed which meant a replacement exhaust for that side. I was expecting a big bill. No, the warranty cover that too. I was amazed to be honest. I get some are more than happy to run without a warranty but for me it was peace of mind. The main reason was if the PDK went south but never had an issue with that. Yep, PADM mounts are the main issue if you have Chrono and £1500-ish is the OPC replacement price. An Indy could do it a bit cheaper, plus the exhaust flap fault could potentially have been repaired rather than replacing the whole exhaust. If you're always planning on using an OPC then the warranty makes perfect sense. If you know a good Indy, then it's a bit less clear cut IMHO. Yes. BMW insured warranty obviously more expensive than the Porsche’s. It is even less tenable with a mileage of less than 4000 miles per year.

TTmonkey said: Have you seen it in the flesh? Because the photos are terrible. Not sure the real colour is anywhere near that of the photos. I think it’s a great looking motor. As soon as I saw that comment I knew it would be Miami blue. It's distinctive, but it's not the shade in the picture, to be sure.

Lexington59 said: julian987R said: LamedonM said: Would anybody take a nearly new, less than 600 mileage, few month old, £8000.00 cheaper Toyota GR Yaris over this Porsche Cayman S? For balance perhaps best to ask this on a GR Yaris forum. The response so far on GR Yaris forum is that as good as GR Yaris is, it cannot match the mid engine dynamic of the Cayman

LamedonM said: The response so far on GR Yaris forum is that as good as GR Yaris is, it cannot match the mid engine dynamic of the Cayman This may be radical out of the box thinking but have you considered driving and looking at both for yourself and then making your own mind up? Or would you rather be influenced by a load of people you don't know from Adam who may/may not know anything about cars and are almost certainly biased one way or another? It is a lot of money to spend on a car, does it really matter what anyone else thinks?

LamedonM said: Are Porsches that unreliable that the manufacturer’s warranty is almost a must No, especially the "cheaper" versions like that. Although as others have pointed out, the occasional 4-figure bill needs to be allowed for, just in case. For an idea of how much abuse a modern porker will take, try running it flat out for two hours at a time…… https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... anonymous said: [redacted] Porsche owners are a crazy bunch

It's a six year old S for £47k. Any ideas on original list price with the options? I recall in 2015 I was looking at TWO year old S Caymans for around £40k. I recall one with just about every conceivable option for that money. I think its list price was £77k. Seems prices have held incredibly well since then. Although comparatively expensive now at £47k it could mean the depreciation will be very slow.

DJMC said: It's a six year old S for £47k. Any ideas on original list price with the options? I recall in 2015 I was looking at TWO year old S Caymans for around £40k. I recall one with just about every conceivable option for that money. I think its list price was £77k. Seems prices have held incredibly well since then. Although comparatively expensive now at £47k it could mean the depreciation will be very slow. The list price for this car would be about £77K as well

HighwayStar said: LamedonM said: Twinfan said: Being a turbo'd motor, and not at an OPC, I'd be wanting to know if it's had a remap. That might explain why it's out of the OPC network, and I think it might also prevent you or anyone else ever putting the Porsche extended warranty on it. Definitely worth getting a PPI if you're seriously interested in it. Are Porsches that unreliable that the manufacturer’s warranty is almost a must My current BMW M6 costs me about £87/month with £250.00 excess (the best rate for the former approved used). I have been paying this for almost 2 years now without any warranty claim. I am beginning to question whether it is worth it. I ran a 981 CS for 6yrs always with extended warranty. 2 yrs warrant, £1190. Sport Chrono brings dynamic transmission mounts. A failure of one of those… this: £1500 without a warranty. I had 2 fail. 1 exhaust actuator/vacuums unit replaced. Lastly, exhaust flap on left bank jammed which meant a replacement exhaust for that side. I was expecting a big bill. No, the warranty cover that too. I was amazed to be honest. I get some are more than happy to run without a warranty but for me it was peace of mind. The main reason was if the PDK went south but never had an issue with that. Would you guys think, this other car would be a better buy (it might have OPF affecting exhaust sounds and no PTV (differential, no LED man light and no 18 way seat, no seat ventilation), but it is newer, with less mileage and has Porsche extended warranty: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110118...

Would you guys think, this other car would be a better buy (it might have OPF affecting exhaust sounds and no PTV (differential), no LED man light and no 18 way seat, no seat ventilation), but it is newer, with less mileage and has Porsche extended warranty: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110118... Or should I just go for a Porsche Approved used? It is going to be a long term keeper Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 1st May 17:10

Placcy dash door cards and no climate but otherwise decent spec and mileage. Graphite not a bad colour either.

av185 said: Placcy dash door cards and no climate but otherwise decent spec and mileage. Graphite not a bad colour either. Overall better than the first one?

LamedonM said: av185 said: Placcy dash door cards and no climate but otherwise decent spec and mileage. Graphite not a bad colour either. Overall better than the first one? Probably but I would take the view that unless you truly know your cars and the potential pitfalls the risk of buying from a smaller indie and possibly an OPC rejected car is greater than the premium you would pay for an OPC car. Yes there are decent non OPC cars around but in my experience these are few and far between. Of course do bear in mind there are good and bad OPCs too.

LamedonM said: Would you guys think, this other car would be a better buy (it might have OPF affecting exhaust sounds and no PTV (differential), no LED man light and no 18 way seat, no seat ventilation), but it is newer, with less mileage and has Porsche extended warranty: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110118... Or should I just go for a Porsche Approved used? It is going to be a long term keeper Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 1st May 17:10 Yep if you love plastic then this is the one to go for. The first one you posted had the extended leather dash/doors. This second one has the Fisher Price option. It looks cheap and natty.

julian987R said: Yep if you love plastic then this is the one to go for. The first one you posted had the extended leather dash/doors. This second one has the Fisher Price option. It looks cheap and natty. Not to mention all those blanks, eh Julian. OP it’s pretty pointless asking which one is better. They’re the same car with different options. I’m fairly certain your opinion is more valuable to you than others’. Warranty is a personal choice. OPC premium pays for peace of mind, but buying elsewhere, that premium covers a few years of extended warranty if you wish.

Your opinions have been very valuable to me. This would be my first porsche and might be the last. I am usually a BMW fanboy. So it is good I am sounding the opinions about what are seen as necessary for a reasonable Porsche car. All I really want is a small car with nice options, reasonable mileage with good driving dynamics that is reasonably fast ( I enjoy cars with low down torque that would give me a love in the back) and reasonable mpg. This might be my last ICE car before going electrics Thanks

Fair enough, in which case both of those will fit the bill. For what it’s worth, my 981 Cayman has more or less every option bar ceramic brakes. As it is first and foremost about the driving experience, the options that enhance that would be tops on my list. Sport Chrono, PASM, PSE, PTV. I wouldn’t have a cayman without them, to be honest. That said, they can be retrofitted (except PASM). Then the cabin stuff. The 18 way seats are fantastic, and the Burmester stereo is excellent, whereas the BOSE upgrades the fairly poor basic system to just about acceptable. Extended leather is nice, but I’d have that lower down the priority list. That said, my wife doesn’t drive it but this stuff makes the interior a nicer place to be for her - and therefore she’s happy if I suggest we waste an afternoon driving.. Don’t listen to Julian (nobody else does), go and see if you can sit in a base-spec Cayman. It is a nice place to be without any interior options. It’s a much more driver-centric cabin than a BMW and feels like more of an occasion. Feel free to PM me if you want my full run-down on options.

You may have seen this, but don't go thinking you need the 718S (or a GT4) over the 718 base model: https://youtu.be/7MqOaqHbf9Q Of course you may get less options in a base car but some may have spent their money on toys rather than (extra) speed.

I had a 718 Cayman S for a couple of years with a standard interior, I thought it was good, no issues at all. I am sure leather would be nicer but it definitely wasn't high up on my list of priorities. I would also recommend the 2 way sport seats plus, if you dont need the memory function then they're great. Really comfortable and I have never had any issues re getting them in the right position, if i recall correctly they also sit a bit lower than the 18 way. I would prioritise PASM, not because you need the sport mode but the normal mode is great for day to day driving and really helps keep the ride comfortable while also giving you plenty of feel and feedback. Other things I would look for, not absolutely necessary but you would think would be standard on car costing that much. Heated Seats Dimming Mirrors Dual Climate Park Assist (Front & Rear) Re the stereo, Bose is okay, nothing special, its an improvement over the standard system but that isn't really saying much. Just be aware that there is quite a bit of road noise in the cabin, so choice of stereo will make little difference.

julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? You cant buy one of these with all the blanks filled. But this car lacks Sport and Sport Plus buttons as it has no Sport Chrono.

ATM said: julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? You cant buy one of these with all the blanks filled. But this car lacks Sport and Sport Plus buttons as it has no Sport Chrono. It’s got sports chrono. It’s just that the switches are on the manettino style wheel mounted selector instead of the centre console on 718 generation.

Jawls said: ATM said: julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? You cant buy one of these with all the blanks filled. But this car lacks Sport and Sport Plus buttons as it has no Sport Chrono. It’s got sports chrono. It’s just that the switches are on the manettino style wheel mounted selector instead of the centre console on 718 generation. I didn't know this. I do see now the extra clock on the dash but it's recessed a lot further back than on the 981. I think I prefer the 981 position but now I'm in danger of sounding like a boring old man saying modern cars are rubbish.

ATM said: Jawls said: ATM said: julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? You cant buy one of these with all the blanks filled. But this car lacks Sport and Sport Plus buttons as it has no Sport Chrono. It’s got sports chrono. It’s just that the switches are on the manettino style wheel mounted selector instead of the centre console on 718 generation. I didn't know this. I do see now the extra clock on the dash but it's recessed a lot further back than on the 981. I think I prefer the 981 position but now I'm in danger of sounding like a boring old man saying modern cars are rubbish. I think I agree 981 wise....though the ideal would be Chrono but with no clock. Complete waste of time the clock to 99% off owners ...and wish it wasn't on my Cayman R (the clock bit of it that is).

julian987R said: ATM said: Jawls said: ATM said: julian987R said: £20K of extras yet so many blanks...how can that be so? You cant buy one of these with all the blanks filled. But this car lacks Sport and Sport Plus buttons as it has no Sport Chrono. It’s got sports chrono. It’s just that the switches are on the manettino style wheel mounted selector instead of the centre console on 718 generation. I didn't know this. I do see now the extra clock on the dash but it's recessed a lot further back than on the 981. I think I prefer the 981 position but now I'm in danger of sounding like a boring old man saying modern cars are rubbish. I think I agree 981 wise....though the ideal would be Chrono but with no clock. Complete waste of time the clock to 99% off owners ...and wish it wasn't on my Cayman R (the clock bit of it that is). I quite like the clock on the 981. It looks like it was designed with the clock there rather than just stuck there as an after thought. It looks to me like the design has gone backwards in this respect on the 718.

ATM said: I quite like the clock on the 981. It looks like it was designed with the clock there rather than just stuck there as an after thought. It looks to me like the design has gone backwards in this respect on the 718. Economies of scale of shared parts with the 991 would be a big factor but they should have built it into the digital display rather than an inanimate blob on the dashboard.

Thanks All.

julian987R said: Economies of scale of shared parts with the 991 would be a big factor but they should have built it into the digital display rather than an inanimate blob on the dashboard. It's not a blob on 981's as it's much more neatly integrated into the profile of the dash and looks better than just having the hazard warning switch in that position.

mr pg said: It's not a blob on 981's as it's much more neatly integrated into the profile of the dash and looks better than just having the hazard warning switch in that position. Indeed, I was meaning how it is on the 718.

DJMC said: You may have seen this, but don't go thinking you need the 718S (or a GT4) over the 718 base model: https://youtu.be/7MqOaqHbf9Q Of course you may get less options in a base car but some may have spent their money on toys rather than (extra) speed. I have seen the video before. Anyway I was not surprised. Of all Caymans, the only Cayman that is slightly faster than 718 Cayman S to 60mph, 100mph or ¼ miles is Cayman GTS. Otherwise, 718 Cayman S is faster than any other Cayman including GTS 4.0 and GT4. It is as fast as GTS (depending on the track), of course GT4s are faster on tracks. This is based on several reviews and comparison websites such as http://dragrace.me/#1025&porsche-718-cayman-s&... https://zeperfs.com/en/ https://fastestlaps.com

For what it’s worth I have a 718 2.0T PDK Boxster in Miami blue with black 20 inch sport wheels. I love it, had it since 8 months old and now just passed 5 years with less than 23,000 miles thanks mainly to COVID screwing our driving trips abroad. It still looks stunning & gets admiring comments wherever it goes. This is my 4th Boxster (previous 2003 986S facelift, 2007 987S & 2009 Gen2 987S, all manual). I test drove a 2.5T PDK at a local Porsche Centre as the car I was looking at was in Belfast - they didn’t have a 2.0T so wasn’t sure what to expect once I got it. I needn’t have feared as it is plenty quick enough & quicker than my gen 2 987S thanks to the PDK box. The sports exhaust definitely helps with the sound and mine doesn’t have sport chrono - the 2.5T test drive did and sport+ was just manic - not a pleasant sound to be honest. The good thing with mine is fuel economy is excellent - 250 miles driven yesterday with an average 36-37 mpg with nearly 40mpg on our trips to the continent, also as it’s pre 1/4/2017 the RFL is only £210 as it doesn’t get hit with the luxury car tax element. Snippersgate are just down the road from me & they’ve been trading for quite some time - they’re not Porsche specialists as such & in the distant past they didn’t have a great reputation and if you look at their Google 1 star reviews, I’d be a bit concerned buying an expensive car from them. Hope this helps. Edited by Boxster5 on Wednesday 4th May 22:06

My 3.4 litre 981S PDK will also return 40mpg along motorway in 7th if being careful so 60 to 65mph. That's door to door so not just flash mpg for the odd few seconds.

LamedonM said: Thanks All. Whats the decision may I ask.

As someone has already said, some Porsche owners are crazy. I bought my 2014 Cayman S 42 months ago from an independent garage, it had been traded in against a Mclaren. The 'it can't be any good if it isn't from a Porsche dealership' is bs. You live in cloud cuckoo land if you expect a garage to put a car through the £210 OPC check to make you feel better about the car, zero to do with confidence in the car's the sell. It could have brand new Michelin Pilot Sport 4s all around but if they don't have that N0 on them it will fail the check. I wonder how many owners have had to deal directly with Porsche GB, they are terrible. I put them on par with any mobile or energy company for customer service, crap. Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. For the price of the blue Cayman you could get a flat-six Cayman S with a ton of extras. Most would prefer the flat-six and the sound it produces. A Black Edition below £5k cheaper, put it through the OPC check & if any faults found get the garage to sort them and then get 2 yr warranty with Porsche. Nicer car and save cash, also more likely to retain a higher value. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021110492... Anyone trashing the GR Yaris hasn't driven it. I recently had a go in a slightly tuned, 300bhp, one on a track day and as a drivers car I believe it's as good as my Cayman. It doesn't have the prestige value that a Porsche has but the potential of a 10yr warranty (service it with a dealer and they add a year to the warranty) is mighty appealing. If you want a good drivers car the GR Yaris and the Hyundai N cars all offer you one brand new for way less than a used Cayman, if it's the prestige then go for a Cayman base model with extras and save yourself some cash.

SpartaThisIs said: As someone has already said, some Porsche owners are crazy. I bought my 2014 Cayman S 42 months ago from an independent garage, it had been traded in against a Mclaren. The 'it can't be any good if it isn't from a Porsche dealership' is bs. You live in cloud cuckoo land if you expect a garage to put a car through the £210 OPC check to make you feel better about the car, zero to do with confidence in the car's the sell. It could have brand new Michelin Pilot Sport 4s all around but if they don't have that N0 on them it will fail the check. I wonder how many owners have had to deal directly with Porsche GB, they are terrible. I put them on par with any mobile or energy company for customer service, crap. Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. For the price of the blue Cayman you could get a flat-six Cayman S with a ton of extras. Most would prefer the flat-six and the sound it produces. A Black Edition below £5k cheaper, put it through the OPC check & if any faults found get the garage to sort them and then get 2 yr warranty with Porsche. Nicer car and save cash, also more likely to retain a higher value. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021110492... Anyone trashing the GR Yaris hasn't driven it. I recently had a go in a slightly tuned, 300bhp, one on a track day and as a drivers car I believe it's as good as my Cayman. It doesn't have the prestige value that a Porsche has but the potential of a 10yr warranty (service it with a dealer and they add a year to the warranty) is mighty appealing. If you want a good drivers car the GR Yaris and the Hyundai N cars all offer you one brand new for way less than a used Cayman, if it's the prestige then go for a Cayman base model with extras and save yourself some cash. That Black Edition has been on the market for close to two years now. It is poverty spec and quite frankly a total dud. You couldn’t have picked a worse example! As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment.

julian987R said: SpartaThisIs said: As someone has already said, some Porsche owners are crazy. I bought my 2014 Cayman S 42 months ago from an independent garage, it had been traded in against a Mclaren. The 'it can't be any good if it isn't from a Porsche dealership' is bs. You live in cloud cuckoo land if you expect a garage to put a car through the £210 OPC check to make you feel better about the car, zero to do with confidence in the car's the sell. It could have brand new Michelin Pilot Sport 4s all around but if they don't have that N0 on them it will fail the check. I wonder how many owners have had to deal directly with Porsche GB, they are terrible. I put them on par with any mobile or energy company for customer service, crap. Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. For the price of the blue Cayman you could get a flat-six Cayman S with a ton of extras. Most would prefer the flat-six and the sound it produces. A Black Edition below £5k cheaper, put it through the OPC check & if any faults found get the garage to sort them and then get 2 yr warranty with Porsche. Nicer car and save cash, also more likely to retain a higher value. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021110492... Anyone trashing the GR Yaris hasn't driven it. I recently had a go in a slightly tuned, 300bhp, one on a track day and as a drivers car I believe it's as good as my Cayman. It doesn't have the prestige value that a Porsche has but the potential of a 10yr warranty (service it with a dealer and they add a year to the warranty) is mighty appealing. If you want a good drivers car the GR Yaris and the Hyundai N cars all offer you one brand new for way less than a used Cayman, if it's the prestige then go for a Cayman base model with extras and save yourself some cash. That Black Edition has been on the market for close to two years now. It is poverty spec and quite frankly a total dud. You couldn’t have picked a worse example! As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. Wow…. I love what the Yaris is… if I had the spare cash to justify a 3rd car that bag of ‘shiny spanners and low grades parts’ would be the car.

julian987R said: As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. What nonsense...I've got a Cayman and a Yaris two different cars that appeal in different ways but equally good.

SpartaThisIs said: Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. As you say colour us very much a personal choice - I love Miami blue & I don’t know anyone personally who has said they don’t like it. It’s certainly not “horrendous” as you put it. These cars suit a loud colour unlike some that most definitely don’t. Good old retail silver eh! Wouldn’t be my choice or grey or black either - as you say it’s personal choice but if you want to follow everyone else that’s OK.

SpartaThisIs said: Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. You're wrong about that. You often see unusual and indeed 'loud' colours going for crazy money on the used market with these cars on account of rarity. Yes, you can get it wrong and a really unfavourable colour will hurt resale. But ye olde PTS premium is definitely a thing.

SpartaThisIs said: For the price of the blue Cayman you could get a flat-six Cayman S with a ton of extras. Most would prefer the flat-six and the sound it produces. A Black Edition below £5k cheaper, put it through the OPC check & if any faults found get the garage to sort them and then get 2 yr warranty with Porsche. Nicer car and save cash, also more likely to retain a higher value. Not everybody, some will prefer the torque and better performance of the turbo engine, and that 2.7 is much slower than even a base 2.0. 981s will also be at least 6-10 years old this year. https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/pvdck6g65jrl https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/2s4v3i101jig With the very long lead times ordering new along with the recent price rises, all Porsche values appear to be holding nicely as we go through the spring peak market.

Klippie said: julian987R said: As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. What nonsense...I've got a Cayman and a Yaris two different cars that appeal in different ways but equally good. I wouldn't want to drive a car where it is a flip of a coin if the airbag will fail to deploy during a crash. Nor a car that can accelerate on its own. And before you reply and say that is not happened for the masses, it has happened waaaaay more than enough, one death by airbag failure is enough right. Bag of spanners I tell you.

esotericar said: SpartaThisIs said: Colour of car is a personal preference, but if you don't look to when you want to sell you could be out of pocket thanks to your choice. As much as it will upset some I would avoid that blue (horrendous), yellow, red any 'trendy' colour, fine if you lease a car and don't intend keeping it. White, black, silver and graphite will always be in demand and suits the Cayman. You're wrong about that. You often see unusual and indeed 'loud' colours going for crazy money on the used market with these cars on account of rarity. Yes, you can get it wrong and a really unfavourable colour will hurt resale. But ye olde PTS premium is definitely a thing. Whilst not my bag Crayon whilst looking like a drab primer undercoat paint always sell well. In fact a Crayon 2017 991.2 GT3 just sold at Romans indies for a record £165k in just a few weeks.

av185 said: Whilst not my bag Crayon whilst looking like a drab primer undercoat paint always sell well. In fact a Crayon 2017 991.2 GT3 just sold at Romans indies for a record £165k in just a few weeks. It's the fashion. See launch colours, too. The most awful colours become fashionable when used for a car launch. If Porsche hadn't launched the 991.1 RS in salmon pink and instead some yootoober had gone and wrapped their car that colour, there would a dedicated thread ridiculing it. But Porsche put it on a launch car, called it 'Lava' and people lap it up. Ditto fluorescent vomit, sorry Peridot, on the 987R. If Porsche had never used that colour for the launch, you'd never get away with it.

Boxster5 said: For what it’s worth I have a 718 2.0T PDK Boxster in Miami blue with black 20 inch sport wheels. I love it, had it since 8 months old and now just passed 5 years with less than 23,000 miles thanks mainly to COVID screwing our driving trips abroad. It still looks stunning & gets admiring comments wherever it goes. This is my 4th Boxster (previous 2003 986S facelift, 2007 987S & 2009 Gen2 987S, all manual). I test drove a 2.5T PDK at a local Porsche Centre as the car I was looking at was in Belfast - they didn’t have a 2.0T so wasn’t sure what to expect once I got it. I needn’t have feared as it is plenty quick enough & quicker than my gen 2 987S thanks to the PDK box. The sports exhaust definitely helps with the sound and mine doesn’t have sport chrono - the 2.5T test drive did and sport+ was just manic - not a pleasant sound to be honest. The good thing with mine is fuel economy is excellent - 250 miles driven yesterday with an average 36-37 mpg with nearly 40mpg on our trips to the continent, also as it’s pre 1/4/2017 the RFL is only £210 as it doesn’t get hit with the luxury car tax element. Snippersgate are just down the road from me & they’ve been trading for quite some time - they’re not Porsche specialists as such & in the distant past they didn’t have a great reputation and if you look at their Google 1 star reviews, I’d be a bit concerned buying an expensive car from them. Hope this helps. Edited by Boxster5 on Wednesday 4th May 22:06 Thank you for this specific information

julian987R said: Whats the decision may I ask. Test drove it and loved it. I love the noise and it is louder inside than my M6 (It is pre OPF) and feels very fast (shove in the back which I love). The handling is good (I would not be a able to comment much because it was rainy a bit) but it feels small which I also like. It feels premium and has AppleCarPlay, a must for work purposes. The car is the most optioned Cayman S on sale in the country now (including Porsche approved used, I have literally searched every website). However finances are proving difficult Edited by LamedonM on Thursday 5th May 17:05

LamedonM said: I already have a a hot hatch in the same category as GR Yaris: Peugeot 208 gti by Peugeot sport (special edition). One of the best cars ever produced by peugeot and Evo listed it as Track ready car. More so, their Sachsenring track times by Autobild for the 208GTI bps is not that slower than for Yaris: Mini JCW GP 1:38.48 (On semi slicks) Ford Focus ST 1:39.69 Toyota GR Yaris 1:40.65 Peugeot 208 GTi 1:41.17 Ford Fiesta ST 1:42.47 VW Polo GTi 1:43.80 Toyota Yaris GRMN 1:44.66 Audi S1 1:44.91 Mini Cooper JCW Auto 1:45.23 Anyway, I have not owned a Sportcar (that was build from the ground up as a sport car with low seating height) before, thus the reason for going after Caymans Informative, and just to compare evolutions of Cayman laps at the same circuit: 1.40.6 ... 987 S 1.38.9 ... 987 R 1.37.9 ... 981 S 1.37.8 ... 981 GTS No data.. 981 GT4 1.37.07 .. 718 1.36.23 .. 718 S 1.35.35 .. 718 GTS 2.5T No data.. 718 GTS 4.0 1.31.51 .. 718 GT4

julian987R said: That Black Edition has been on the market for close to two years now. It is poverty spec and quite frankly a total dud. You couldn’t have picked a worse example! As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. Captain clueless at it again. Please stop commenting, for everyone’s sake, on matters you don’t have a clue about. Which is most threads, to be fair. You’ll have time for a new hobby.

Royal Jelly said: Captain clueless at it again. Please stop commenting, for everyone’s sake, on matters you don’t have a clue about. Which is most threads, to be fair. You’ll have time for a new hobby. Airbag failure for one. See above. Best regards

Jim1556 said: LamedonM said: I already have a a hot hatch in the same category as GR Yaris: Peugeot 208 gti by Peugeot sport (special edition). One of the best cars ever produced by peugeot and Evo listed it as Track ready car. More so, their Sachsenring track times by Autobild for the 208GTI bps is not that slower than for Yaris: Mini JCW GP 1:38.48 (On semi slicks) Ford Focus ST 1:39.69 Toyota GR Yaris 1:40.65 Peugeot 208 GTi 1:41.17 Ford Fiesta ST 1:42.47 VW Polo GTi 1:43.80 Toyota Yaris GRMN 1:44.66 Audi S1 1:44.91 Mini Cooper JCW Auto 1:45.23 Anyway, I have not owned a Sportcar (that was build from the ground up as a sport car with low seating height) before, thus the reason for going after Caymans Informative, and just to compare evolutions of Cayman laps at the same circuit: 1.40.6 ... 987 S 1.38.9 ... 987 R 1.37.9 ... 981 S 1.37.8 ... 981 GTS No data.. 981 GT4 1.37.07 .. 718 1.36.23 .. 718 S 1.35.35 .. 718 GTS 2.5T No data.. 718 GTS 4.0 1.31.51 .. 718 GT4 What a lovely set of lap times. Thanks Jimmy. This car we are discussing is the only 718 Cayman S PDK currently on sale in the UK (I would be very happy if someone could prove me wrong) that has all the drivetrain components ordinarily included in the GTS (Sport Chrono, PASM with 20mm lowering, PTV with mechanical differential and Sport exhaust ) would probably do the same time of 1.35.35 as the GTS? Are there any other aerodynamic/drivetrain components that makes Cayman GTS superior to Cayman S apart from those listed above?

julian987R said: That Black Edition has been on the market for close to two years now. It is poverty spec and quite frankly a total dud. You couldn’t have picked a worse example! As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. 2013 & 2014 Caymans & Boxsters have just had a major recall notice for a rear suspension part faulty from manufacture, 100% failure rate. Luckily I was only doing 30 mph when mine failed, German engineering at it's finest. 'Low-grade parts'? Currently able to be tuned to over 500bhp on the stock engine.

julian987R said: I wouldn't want to drive a car where it is a flip of a coin if the airbag will fail to deploy during a crash. Nor a car that can accelerate on its own. And before you reply and say that is not happened for the masses, it has happened waaaaay more than enough, one death by airbag failure is enough right. Bag of spanners I tell you. I've heard some people say some ridiculous things over the years but this is on another level, do you actually own a car..???

Royal Jelly said: Captain clueless at it again. Please stop commenting, for everyone’s sake, on matters you don’t have a clue about. Which is most threads, to be fair. You’ll have time for a new hobby. You’ve got to view his posts as a contribution to one’s well being, some amusement to brighten your day….in a similar fashion to a well known previous (now banned) poster round these parts… Once you realise that he cannot in any way, actually be serious about any of the points in his posts, you’ll start to appreciate the incisive wit he displays…

MrVert said: Royal Jelly said: Captain clueless at it again. Please stop commenting, for everyone’s sake, on matters you don’t have a clue about. Which is most threads, to be fair. You’ll have time for a new hobby. You’ve got to view his posts as a contribution to one’s well being, some amusement to brighten your day….in a similar fashion to a well known previous (now banned) poster round these parts… Once you realise that he cannot in any way, actually be serious about any of the points in his posts, you’ll start to appreciate the incisive wit he displays…

Klippie said: julian987R said: As for the Yaris, there is a reason why they are cheap - they are made of a bag of spanners….shiny spanner’s sure, but all low grade parts and it looks like it was designed by a kid with a box of crayons. They look a total embarrassment. What nonsense...I've got a Cayman and a Yaris two different cars that appeal in different ways but equally good. I already have a a hot hatch in the same category as GR Yaris: Peugeot 208 gti by Peugeot sport (special edition). One of the best cars ever produced by peugeot and Evo listed it as a track ready car. More so, the Sachsenring track time by Autobild for the 208GTI bps is not that slower than for Yaris: Mini JCW GP 1:38.48 (On semi slicks) Ford Focus ST 1:39.69 Toyota GR Yaris 1:40.65 Peugeot 208 GTi 1:41.17 Ford Fiesta ST 1:42.47 VW Polo GTi 1:43.80 Toyota Yaris GRMN 1:44.66 Audi S1 1:44.91 Mini Cooper JCW Auto 1:45.23 Anyway, I have not owned a Sportcar (that was build from the ground up as a sport car with low seating height) before, thus the reason for going after Caymans Edited by LamedonM on Thursday 5th May 23:54

Good morning All. I have bought the car. But not collected it yet because of work and being out of the country. Would collect it on the week of 30th May. The car is probably overpriced but still much less expensive compared to 718 GTS that have higher mileages and less options. The car is pre OPF, Miami Blue with Sport Chrono, PASM, PSE, PTV, LED head light, ventilated 18 way seat, Apple car play Park Assist Front and rear, 20 inch turbo 911 wheel with 2 tone leather, cruise control and speed limit display and some other options I intend to keep for a long time (I tell myself and wife this) Thanks All

LamedonM said: Good morning All. I have bought the car. But not collected it yet because of work and being out of the country. Would collect it on the week of 30th May. The car is probably overpriced but still much less expensive compared to 718 GTS that have higher mileages and less options. The car is pre OPF, Miami Blue with Sport Chrono, PASM, PSE, PTV, LED head light, ventilated 18 way seat, Apple car play Park Assist Front and rear, 20 inch turbo 911 wheel with 2 tone leather, cruise control and speed limit display and some other options I intend to keep for a long time (I tell myself and wife this) Thanks All Legend. Sounds brilliant - lots of pics please when you collect.

[quote=LamedonM]Good morning All. I have bought the car. But not collected it yet because of work and being out of the country. Would collect it on the week of 30th May./quote] Good stuff...I'am sure you will be delighted with your Porsche, they are very good you know.

Great news ,hope it lives up to expectations. I am currently still in the honeymoon phase of a 09 - 987.2 base with the 2.9 . It’s on 90 K with a good history . Coming from a Testarossa, 360 M F1 , Jag V8 s XK s , Renault sport Spider I find the boxster the perfect sweat spot . Couldn’t care less about it lap times , where it’s 255 Hp in 1400 kg fits in . On every day roads in case it’s been forgotten by the buy on stats guys 0.01 faster on this or that circuit etc, it’s all about matching the cars performance envelope to the drivers and the road conditions . Boxsters are perfect , it’s all in the handling balance + brakes Make me laugh at newbies busting themselves with ridiculous “monthly’s “ driving grotesque Lambos , McClarens , et al raising the fronts over speed bumps or never being able to experience the 100 to 180 mph range . I di like the flat 6 Vs and analog hydraulic steering btw that’s why I dropped in @ 987.2 s How ever appreciate time moves on .The flat 4 guys seem happy enough with there cars . Go to 2.0 onwards to around 6.0 ……the “joy “ not the track lap times . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrrM_n_nHk&t=... Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 13:27 Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 13:33 Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 14:21

Great spec (and great colour). You’ll love it. Get some pics up when she arrives!

LamedonM said: Good morning All. I have bought the car. But not collected it yet because of work and being out of the country. Would collect it on the week of 30th May. The car is probably overpriced but still much less expensive compared to 718 GTS that have higher mileages and less options. The car is pre OPF, Miami Blue with Sport Chrono, PASM, PSE, PTV, LED head light, ventilated 18 way seat, Apple car play Park Assist Front and rear, 20 inch turbo 911 wheel with 2 tone leather, cruise control and speed limit display and some other options I intend to keep for a long time (I tell myself and wife this) Thanks All Great stuff! Hope you enjoy it and be sure to share pics

Fiammetta said: Great news ,hope it lives up to expectations. I am currently still in the honeymoon phase of a 09 - 987.2 base with the 2.9 . It’s on 90 K with a good history . Coming from a Testarossa, 360 M F1 , Jag V8 s XK s , Renault sport Spider I find the boxster the perfect sweat spot . Couldn’t care less about it lap times , where it’s 255 Hp in 1400 kg fits in . On every day roads in case it’s been forgotten by the buy on stats guys 0.01 faster on this or that circuit etc, it’s all about matching the cars performance envelope to the drivers and the road conditions . Boxsters are perfect , it’s all in the handling balance + brakes Make me laugh at newbies busting themselves with ridiculous “monthly’s “ driving grotesque Lambos , McClarens , et al raising the fronts over speed bumps or never being able to experience the 100 to 180 mph range . I di like the flat 6 Vs and analog hydraulic steering btw that’s why I dropped in @ 987.2 s How ever appreciate time moves on .The flat 4 guys seem happy enough with there cars . Go to 2.0 onwards to around 6.0 ……the “joy “ not the track lap times . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrrM_n_nHk&t=... Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 13:27 Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 13:33 Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 21st May 14:21 Thanks All. I don’t need a flat 6. I already have a V8. I am buying a car that is better handling and faster than 981 and 987 Caymans, that could be used as a daily drive with better mpg. I also like the sound Edited by LamedonM on Saturday 21st May 16:12 Edited by LamedonM on Saturday 21st May 22:41

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Nice car, enjoy. Personally I love the colour. Agree with you on the front end, though you will have a perfect view in the drivers seat.

Really like the look of that and its a really nice colour! well done OP!

Looks great, I do like the two tone interior.

Some pictures at the dealer's Would probably take some other ones later when the car is with me Anyway, please don't be annoyed with me, I have never found the front view of Porsches attractive (including this car) apart from the probably hard core GT4/3/2 RS. Who knows, I might add one of those in 5 year's time The rear view would have been better, if the rear spoiler is up, I might add the picture of that later I like the interior 2 tone leather (the colour combination is exactly the colour combination of the interior of my M6) it also has steering leather column cover or something like that Sorry for boring you guys/girls to death with my excitement. Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 22 May 13:44

LamedonM said: Some pictures at the dealer's Would probably take some other ones later when the car is with me Anyway, please don't be annoyed with me, I have never found the front view of Porsches attractive (including this car) apart from the probably hard core GT4/3/2 RS. Who knows, I might add one of those in 5 year's time The rear view would have been better, if the rear spoiler is up, I might add the picture of that later I like the interior 2 tone leather (the colour combination is exactly the colour combination of the interior of my M6) it also has steering leather column cover or something like that Sorry for boring you guys/girls to death with my excitement. Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 22 May 13:44 Of the two you were considering I reckon you have chosen the better one. Congratulations! looks fantastic. I don't mind the front look, maybe its the angle you are looking at it, as they look pretty mean (in a good way) when they are approaching from a distance.

I like that. An unusual combination but it works well. Always nice to see something a bit different and the sort of car I'd peer through the window of if I was walking past! Enjoy the car, I'm sure you'll love it.

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She has arrived to meet the big brother. The car is much more attractive in real life. Everybody loves it, wife, children and neighbours Edited by LamedonM on Thursday 2nd June 17:13 Edited by LamedonM on Thursday 2nd June 20:29

Cool looking car! I took delivery of my second new 718 Cayman December last year (first one was back in May 2017). Both have been Carrara white, but I think they look amazing in blue. I also have a 981 GT4 (also white ), but for road use, the base 718 is about as good as it gets for me. Enjoy it! Liam

Thanks everyone I took the car for Porsche 111 checks today that cost £216.00. Nothing found apart from worn flange bolts that hold the exhaust in place. I would have to have 90 days of ownership before putting Porsche extended warranty. Otherwise, I would have been able to put one today Well, if I want to in 90 days, the warranty would cost £740/year or £1270/2 years or £1860 over 3 years. Just for everybody with Cayman to know, there is a recall on the air intake grille. It was changed for me at no cost at Porsche Centre Newcastle I am now happy with myself, that I bought a faultless car outside of OPC. The other gripe is that the Porsche tracker is still connected to the previous owner and therefore that can activate it for me. So we would have to contact the previous owner to discontinue the contract for me to start my own I am not sure whether I would do the extended warranty or not later, combined with M6, I would be spending